Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 build up of mucin was a major problem of mine - from having been untreated for a very very long time.... HC is the answer to mucin imo...and with just 20-25 mg. I had quite a bit of mucin release.... but if you're still having a problem specifically somewhere....it'll probably take more imo. for example, Hydrocortisone has been used a a treatment in pretibial myxedema....but the HC doses are much higher doses for a period of time.. just going to 35-40 mg. for a few weeks in my own case...released mucin trapped in the tissues...and i discovered that by accident when dosing extra for dental issues... however...i think there are areas that if they've been there realy really a long time....it may never dissipate - like the outside of the upper arms (preradial myxedema) and the front thighs.... i'm thin now...but these areas feel like lard to me....the skin can not be pinched up - it's purely mucin trapped in the tissues that has been there forever. i doubt you'll find a doctor to agree with you doing this..upping HC protocol...but I just know it was the answer in my own case fir a few areas...email me for more discussion on this... as for the books you mentioned, both excellent imo... cindi > > > My second question pertains to whether or not any of you have dealt with a large amount of mucin in your body? Have you been able to eliminate it and how? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hi , You certainly have been through a trying time. There was talk about this book on one of my lists - that it is a great one. The mucin? IIRC that's stuffy nose, chest? I use Oreganol and a neti pot. If you look at messages over the last couple of days, it was talked about here. I assume that's 20mg Cortef? What is TR-T3, timed release T3? I know the weight is frustrating, but if you feel well, try not to think about it. Maybe now that you are through all of those trying times, you could try Armour again? Best, in OH thyroidless for 42 years, hypoparathyroidism From: Ali Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:49 AM I mostly lurk on this list but had a couple of questions to post. Is anyone familiar with a couple of books I just purchased: Hypothyroidism Type 2, by Mark Starr, MD; & Hormone Solution by Thierry Hertoghe, MD? Any reviews you could share? My second question pertains to whether or not any of you have dealt with a large amount of mucin in your body? Have you been able to eliminate it and how? My doctor started me on $ynthroid way back about 1980 with no tests. I was diagnosed with myxedema based on my doctor's visual examination. Like a good soldier, I stayed on it for a lot of years. In 1998 I had been reading and asked my then physician for a different thyroid medication because I felt that I had issues with RT-3. He looked me in the eye and said, "No, we are not going to change your thyroid medication. I take Synthroid every morning and it works well for me." Needless to say, I never went back to him. He had also sent me to an endo who palpated my gland then looked at the numbers on the paper and told me I was fine. I protested and told here that I had chest pains and heart palpitations. She again repeated that I was fine. I won't see her again. I did go to a good doc about 1 1/2 hours from my home who did start me on Armour based on the of tests he had ordered. He did not test for adrenal issues and within 3-4 weeks and I managed to pick up a sinus infection. At that point, the adrenal issues came to the fore, and I crashed badly. Literally, I could not move, and it was an enormous effort to walk across my room from the bed to the bathroom. The best way to describe that period was that I was almost comatose. When I went back to my doc, he immediately started me on Cortef. The relief was almost immediate. It took some months to work out an optimal dose but the improvement was amazing. In 2001, a diagnosis of ovarian cancer was a blip on the overall scheme, and then in early 2004, I faced more surgery due to a 7cm renal cell carcinoma. Two different primary cancers, both caused by a genetic defect. Since the second surgery, I felt better. In 2005, my doc had added TR-T3 which really did not make a big improvement, nor did the addition of Iodoral tablets. By 2006 that I had been on Cytomel, and dropped the Armour completely, and added Lugol's Iodine drops instead of Iodoral. It made such a huge difference, I cannot tell you how much improvement I have received. I am functioning, and doing well. At this point, I take 75 Cytomel, and 20 Cortef daily, my doses spaced out through the day. When I overdo things, I know it immediately. My best days are when I start with a good breakfast including protein, and eggs are my best friends now. I still have not been able to get rid of the weight. I do exercise regularly, swimming (6-10 hours weekly), walking, and garden work. Still the weight will not go away. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks ; I appreciate your response. Glad to hear that someone liked the book. In the case of the thyroid, mucin is a jelly-like substance that accumulates under the skin and around your organs. I don't know if it is like the mucin in your lungs. Sorry for the shorthand, I didn't realize that not everyone was familiar with the terms I used, plus, I made a typo. It should have been R-T3, (reverse T-3). And, yes, I take 20mg of Cortef. It seems to be my threshold level. All in all, I am grateful to be able to function as well as I do, and if I follow my self-imposed " rules " , you would never know that I had been through anything more complicated than a hangnail. Regards, in WV > > Hi , > > You certainly have been through a trying time. There was talk about this book on one of my lists - that it is a great one. > The mucin? IIRC that's stuffy nose, chest? I use Oreganol and a neti pot. If you look at messages over the last couple of days, it was talked about here. I assume that's 20mg Cortef? What is TR-T3, timed release T3? > I know the weight is frustrating, but if you feel well, try not to think about it. Maybe now that you are through all of those trying times, you could try Armour again? > > Best, > in OH > thyroidless for 42 years, hypoparathyroidism> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 it is okay to start discussions. no need to apologize... diane, near philly, pa On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Shirley wrote:The intention was, not to provoke dissention, but to be certain that folks were aware that iodine is widely thought of as being very relevant to thyroid issues. Didn't mean to cause any upset. pj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Looking for something that doesn't cost a lot too. Not much money and no insurance. But I am looking for what helps. > > Of course I have a bias but I recommend classical homeopathy. It has a lot > of good results with thyroid issues, especially if it has not progressed to > anything too serious. > > > > Cheers > > > > Sonya McLeod, BA, DCH > > Little Mountain Homeopathy > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] > On Behalf Of > Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:30 PM > > Subject: [ ] thyroid issues > > > > > > I know this is off the autism subject, but since I see a lot of you do > natural remedies I thought I would pose this question. What is the best > supplement or remedy for thyroid issues? I apparently have a low functioning > thyroid and don't want to be on a daily medicine if I can help it. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Homeopathy doesn't cost a lot. Classical homeopaths use only one remedy at a time which means the medicines are cheap (they are often included in the consultation price). Follow-ups are also spaced 6-8 weeks apart. I think it is probably the cheapest of the alternative modalities. And it does work for thyroid. Cheers Sonya McLeod, BA, DCH Little Mountain Homeopathy 351 E. 39th Ave. Vancouver, BC V5W 1K3 604-677-7742 [ ] thyroid issues > > > > > > I know this is off the autism subject, but since I see a lot of you do > natural remedies I thought I would pose this question. What is the best > supplement or remedy for thyroid issues? I apparently have a low functioning > thyroid and don't want to be on a daily medicine if I can help it. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Check out the discussion and list of nutrients at ithyroid.com (some people would use a stripped down version of what he lists). Minerals like zinc and selenium are involved in thyroid function, and aren't they familiar. Not a surprise so many of us have thyroid issues. > > I know this is off the autism subject, but since I see a lot of you do natural remedies I thought I would pose this question. What is the best supplement or remedy for thyroid issues? I apparently have a low functioning thyroid and don't want to be on a daily medicine if I can help it. Any suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Two questions. First, one of my sons was clearly hypothyroid. He's been on nature-throid for years and is doing great. A recent lab has me a little concerned though, because recent TSH number is now down to .73............is that a little too low? My second son's lab work revealed he may have thyroid issues too. His TSH number looked fine (1.5), but his T3 and T4 numbers were borderline. Our DAN! suggested that we might try him on a little Armour and the results have been very good. However, a friend who I really respect has me concerned about supplementing with thyroid for borderline cases. She suggested that spectrum kids may develop antibodies to the supplemented thyroid and this could lead to Hashimotos. Has anyone had this experience? Any feedback? Thanks! Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 > Two questions. First, one of my sons was clearly hypothyroid. > My second son's lab work revealed he may have thyroid issues too. I can't address your specific questions, but I corrected hypothyroid in my kids by supplementing selenium, iodine, and tyrosine. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Drinking fluoridated water can be hard on the thyroid, I have read... I take a combo tincture for my thyroid...and one for the pituitary, the master gland of our endocrine glands... Can you tell us the herbs you were taking from TCM... D ________________________________ From: Cochrane <juliemc9@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:29 AM Subject: Re: Losing Weight with Thyroid Issues Hi Mercurius, I am on to my third TCM dr/acupuncturist, and would have liked to have fixed my thyroid and adrenal issues without Western medicine, but after three years of regular TCM treatment I still had major symptoms which the right Western medicine have mostly fixed very quickly. I usually avoid Western medicine and have relied on acupuncture quite a bit, and generally found it effective, in the past, but this time TCM was not working. I have been told that hypothyroidism is usually a kidney yin deficiency, as the symptoms fit this pattern, but I also had blood and qi deficiencies, which is usual once you've had a thyroid issue for long enough. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Mercurius Trismegistus < magisterium_magnum@...> wrote: > ** > > > Running barefoot is only for people who have the right balance from > their feet up to their weight bearing joints. I think Zola Budd used to > run barefoot. > Jumping rope is actually the most efficient cardio. Do it on a grass or > hard packed dirt surface to avoid impact on joints. > As for thyroid issues, see an acupuncturist, preferably one who also > does herbs. It's probably a spleen qi or kidney yang deficiency. There > are good herbal formulas like You Gui Wan which can really boost that > metabolism. Depending upon your individual pattern diagnosis. > > On 7/26/2011 5:37 PM, Cody wrote: > > Latest info on running is to do it barefoot. > > > > http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ > > > > C > > > >Â > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Drinking fluoridated water apparently displaces iodine in the body. The thyroid needs iodine. Drinking lots of tea, whether organic or not, can do the same. Tea plants love fluoride and grow particularly well in fluoride-rich soils and take up the fluoride from the soils. I have very low iodine levels and initially couldn't work out well because my diet was very good and I used celtic sea salt. However, I used to drink about 8 cups of a naturally low caffeine, organic tea, each day. I thought I was doing well because I'd given up coffee. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Don <hooty304@...> wrote: > ** > > > Drinking fluoridated water can be hard on the thyroid, I have read... > I take a combo tincture for my thyroid...and one for the pituitary, the > master gland of > > our endocrine glands... > Can you tell us the herbs you were taking from TCM... > D > > ________________________________ > From: Cochrane <juliemc9@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: Losing Weight with Thyroid Issues > > Hi Mercurius, > > I am on to my third TCM dr/acupuncturist, and would have liked to have > fixed > my thyroid and adrenal issues without Western medicine, but after three > years of regular TCM treatment I still had major symptoms which the right > Western medicine have mostly fixed very quickly. > > I usually avoid Western medicine and have relied on acupuncture quite a > bit, > and generally found it effective, in the past, but this time TCM was not > working. > > I have been told that hypothyroidism is usually a kidney yin deficiency, as > the symptoms fit this pattern, but I also had blood and qi deficiencies, > which is usual once you've had a thyroid issue for long enough. > > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Mercurius Trismegistus < > magisterium_magnum@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Running barefoot is only for people who have the right balance from > > their feet up to their weight bearing joints. I think Zola Budd used to > > run barefoot. > > Jumping rope is actually the most efficient cardio. Do it on a grass or > > hard packed dirt surface to avoid impact on joints. > > As for thyroid issues, see an acupuncturist, preferably one who also > > does herbs. It's probably a spleen qi or kidney yang deficiency. There > > are good herbal formulas like You Gui Wan which can really boost that > > metabolism. Depending upon your individual pattern diagnosis. > > > > On 7/26/2011 5:37 PM, Cody wrote: > > > Latest info on running is to do it barefoot. > > > > > > http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 There are two kinds of fluoride: (a) calcium fluoride, the natural flourine increases bone strength, reduces carbohydrate caused acidity in the mouth and incidence of tooth decay. Can be good if taken in moderation. ( sodium flouride the one added to municipal drinking water said to be a by-product of aluminum is bad for us. > > Drinking fluoridated water apparently displaces iodine in the body. The > thyroid needs iodine. > > Drinking lots of tea, whether organic or not, can do the same. Tea plants > love fluoride and grow particularly well in fluoride-rich soils and take up > the fluoride from the soils. I have very low iodine levels and initially > couldn't work out well because my diet was very good and I used celtic sea > salt. However, I used to drink about 8 cups of a naturally low caffeine, > organic tea, each day. I thought I was doing well because I'd given up > coffee. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Thanks for sharing! We are hot and heavy on the "cure for thyroid troubles" trail so any help is appreciated! Thanks,My Favorite Video for My Little One! On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Ronaye wrote: For too long I have had most of the symptoms of being hypothyroid...but all the tests showed normal ! I am tired of being tired I am in Canada and the wait time to see a specialist is brutal, so I did some internet searches and went to Natures Fare, our local health food store. I bought a bottle of Relora and within one day noticed a difference. I had more energy and was more relaxed. I got a bottle of AdrenaSense a product from Lorna Vanderhaeghe. She also has a product called Thyrosense...my next purchase. The literature says it improves the conversion of T4 to T3. There is a lot of really good information if you google Lorna Vanderhaeghe. Hope this helps Ronaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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