Re: research it is not casein your children are allergic too per se ..) it is PASTURIZED CASEIN

June 16, 2010

I should probably preface this answer with the obvious (seeing as I get sarcasm

from some when I do not), but what the heck, I think I will just state it....A2

Protein/Casein found in (amongst other milks) COW milk and it is there with or

without pasteurization. Seems like a pretty obvious thing, but who knows.

The Casein my kids/I are allergic to is in the milk that comes from the teat,

pasteurized or not. Whether or not the dairy is raw or not is not even a

question.

> > >

> > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it is

> about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now Dr.

> ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children are

> having great results too.

> > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery as ALA.

> they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora too and

> raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > >

> > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that makes the

> dairy bad.

> > >

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> lk-part-three.aspx

> > >

> > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get spam

> > >

> > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons protocal

> > >

> > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article is sort

> of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as a

> family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a drinker of

> delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > >

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > >

> > > Sue

> > > CFD Farm

> > > Michigan

> > >

> >

June 16, 2010

Pasteurization, especially ultra-pasteurization, alters the proteins (well, the

amino acids). Ulta pasteurization changes the viscosity of milk so much that

guar gum and carageenan is added to congeal it up again.

The protein still remains A2, but if it is altered, perhaps there is some truth

behind being able to tolerate raw milk and not pasteurized milk proteins. Plus,

when the enzymes have been killed off, my guess is there might be more chance

for intolerance and poor digestibility and maybe even absorption of nutrients if

they even really exist in bioavailable form after heating.

True IgE allergies are a whole other issue. I would not be surprised if heat

doesn't change that allergic status. BUT, the word " allergy " is so misused when

it comes to Autism and food that I doubt many of us are dealing with allergies

the way you describe yours at your house, . Yours is IgE?

Are raw milk proteins larger than pasteurized milk proteins? I need to read

some more. Either way, my MD husband isn't about to allow me to feed our kids

raw milk. I do buy raw milk cheeses almost exclusively.

When you mess with Mother Nature you run in to problems.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it is

> > about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now Dr.

> > ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children are

> > having great results too.

> > > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery as ALA.

> > they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora too and

> > raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> > andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > > >

> > > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that makes the

> > dairy bad.

> > > >

> > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> > lk-part-three.aspx

> > > >

> > > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get spam

> > > >

> > > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons protocal

> > > >

> > > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article is sort

> > of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as a

> > family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a drinker of

> > delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > > >

> > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> > lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > > >

> > > > Sue

> > > > CFD Farm

> > > > Michigan

> > > >

> > >

June 17, 2010

I know my IgE tested great within normal limits. The pulmonologist was actually

surprised.

When my eldest (no autism that I know of), now 24, was young, she got deathly

ill from milk. I would always know when the relatives gave her milk because she

would be sick the next day or two (HIGH fever-106, vomitting until she dry

heaved or was throwing up bile, diarrhea, etc...) Sometimes the reaction was

immediate; sometimes it was not. We were just told she had a milk allergy. She

still has it to this day. My mother says she has it also (age 77).

My other kids apparently do, even though the allergy tests come back negative,

because when we removed casein, the allergic shiners disappeared.

> > > > >

> > > > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it is

> > > about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now Dr.

> > > ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children are

> > > having great results too.

> > > > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery as

ALA.

> > > they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora too

and

> > > raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> > > andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > > > >

> > > > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that makes

the

> > > dairy bad.

> > > > >

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> > > lk-part-three.aspx

> > > > >

> > > > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get spam

> > > > >

> > > > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons protocal

> > > > >

> > > > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article is

sort

> > > of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as a

> > > family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a drinker

of

> > > delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > > > >

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> > > lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > > > >

> > > > > Sue

> > > > > CFD Farm

> > > > > Michigan

> > > > >

> > > >

June 17, 2010

That sounds like a text book case, I bet they try raw milk and be just fine.

That is why they are reacting so strongly but they don’t have the allergy to

the actual casein per se so the antibody tests are neg … just like my kids…

but you see with your own eyes they can’t digest it but they are not

allergic??? That’s the missing link… the milk isn’t really the problem… its

what we do to it for mass production and consumption

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On Behalf Of agirlnamedsuess21

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:26 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: research it is not casein your children are

allergic too per se ..) it is PASTURIZED CASEIN

I know my IgE tested great within normal limits. The pulmonologist was

actually surprised.

When my eldest (no autism that I know of), now 24, was young, she got

deathly ill from milk. I would always know when the relatives gave her milk

because she would be sick the next day or two (HIGH fever-106, vomitting

until she dry heaved or was throwing up bile, diarrhea, etc...) Sometimes

the reaction was immediate; sometimes it was not. We were just told she had

a milk allergy. She still has it to this day. My mother says she has it also

(age 77).

My other kids apparently do, even though the allergy tests come back

negative, because when we removed casein, the allergic shiners disappeared.

> > > > >

> > > > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it

is

> > > about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now

Dr.

> > > ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children

are

> > > having great results too.

> > > > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery

as ALA.

> > > they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora

too and

> > > raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> > > andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > > > >

> > > > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that

makes the

> > > dairy bad.

> > > > >

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> > > lk-part-three.aspx

> > > > >

> > > > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get

spam

> > > > >

> > > > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons

protocal

> > > > >

> > > > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article

is sort

> > > of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as

a

> > > family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a

drinker of

> > > delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > > > >

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> > > lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > > > >

> > > > > Sue

> > > > > CFD Farm

> > > > > Michigan

> > > > >

> > > >

June 17, 2010

My oldest has a milk issue. Unsure what level it falls on with IgE, IgG, etc.

We are actually off to a new MD today to talk about it. We had an IgE run twice

and no real allergy shows up, but an environmental MD took one look at him and

said, " Dairy " . We just haven't been great at eliminating it 100%.

Shiners and congestion. Not on spectrum, but he is driving me crazy today being

a lazy teenager.

Pam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it is

> > > > about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now Dr.

> > > > ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children are

> > > > having great results too.

> > > > > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery as

ALA.

> > > > they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora too

and

> > > > raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> > > > andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that makes

the

> > > > dairy bad.

> > > > > >

> > > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> > > > lk-part-three.aspx

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get spam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons protocal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article is

sort

> > > > of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as a

> > > > family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a drinker

of

> > > > delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > > > > >

> > > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> > > > lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sue

> > > > > > CFD Farm

> > > > > > Michigan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

June 18, 2010

I don't agree with you, but I respect your opinion. Seeing that our digestion

of milk was actually an evolutionary process, one of the first things to go when

a person is metals toxic and has a poor immune system might be the ability to

digest it. We tried raw milk from healthy sheep, we were sick for days.

I think the real reason might be mercury or other metals turning off the enzymes

needed to digest it OR the fact that an ingredient called casamino acid (casein

derivative) is in the DTaP vaccine along with an aluminum adjuvant. When the

body overreacts to the adjuvant, it may also form antibodies to the casein

especially if that is the child's first exposure to the casein. I think there

are very few kids out there that can tolerate casein anymore, unfortunately.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is another post from a board a raw dairy board and it

> is

> > > > about another mom like me who healed her son thru RAW dairy and now

> Dr.

> > > > ph Mercola and severala other researchers with autistic children

> are

> > > > having great results too.

> > > > > > please read, this was as or more important to 's recovery

> as ALA.

> > > > they say th perservatives in vaccines have killed all the gut flora

> too and

> > > > raw milk gives us our new start so to speak, w colostrum and enzymes

> > > > andprobiotics, PKLEASE PLEASE READ UP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAW DAIRY IS GREAT FOR AUTISTICS is is the pasturazation that

> makes the

> > > > dairy bad.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/02/pasteurized-mi

> > > > lk-part-three.aspx

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that pop up goes away if you enter your email, I never ever get

> spam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is the post and ifg you look back you can see my sons

> protocal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son is autistic so this article got my attention. The article

> is sort

> > > > of full of scientific " big " words and sometimes hard to follow, but as

> a

> > > > family dairy farmer, mother of 3 children, one with autism and a

> drinker of

> > > > delicious raw milk, I thought I would share this.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/05/pasteurized-mi

> > > > lk-part-four.aspx?aid=CD945

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sue

> > > > > > CFD Farm

> > > > > > Michigan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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