Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 You should use the Andy Cutler protocol. You don't need a doctor. You can read about it and the supplements needed in the " files " section here on the group. TJ ________________________________ From: Cheleta <cheleta9178@...> Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 9:10:17 AM Subject: [ ] Starting ALA Â Hello Everyone, Can someone please help me with what protocol I should use when starting ALA? I can't afford the DAN right now! I wanted to know what supplements I should have in place when starting ALA and what dosage and times to give this to my children. If anyone has experience with this I would greatly appreciate your response!!! Thank You! Cheleta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala  Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 TJ, what are the signs to look at when adjusting the dose of C and E? If I just give 500mg of C and 400IU of E, how can I know this is enough or not? Thank you! From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:39 PM  I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala  Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 We noticed that when our boys were showing signs of oxidative stress they were a little lethargic and pasty looking, darkness under their eyes. It seems to be most noticeable when you first start chelation. TJ ________________________________ From: Asem Demesinova <dmsnv@...> Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 10:58:36 AM Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala  TJ, what are the signs to look at when adjusting the dose of C and E? If I just give 500mg of C and 400IU of E, how can I know this is enough or not? Thank you! From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:39 PM  I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala  Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks! Just to confirm, if I will see some lethargy and dark circles around eyes, I will have to try increase antioxidants? When I see a bad signs during chelation what is the priority of things I should be thinking about: 1. Candida 2. Oxidation 3. Adjusting dose, timing, adding DMSA to ALA in case if only one agent was used. 4. What else, is it possible to think in advance?  Sorry, my questions are completely theoretical, I am not chelating yet, just learning.  Thanks again, Asem  From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 12:39 PM  I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala  Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hello my name is Ralitsa I just reed your post but my DAN prescribed ALA only on the morning time is that correct or i spred the pils and do 3h sircul for 3days and 4days off? Thank you as i detox naturaly till naw didn work From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39  I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala  Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Please read in the files section here on the group about the Andy Cutler protocol of chelation. TJ ________________________________ From: Ralitsa Dimitrova <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 6:43:13 PM Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Hello my name is Ralitsa I just reed your post but my DAN prescribed ALA only on the morning time is that correct or i spred the pils and do 3h sircul for 3days and 4days off? Thank you as i detox naturaly till naw didn work From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39 I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM Subject: [ ] starting Ala Hello all We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 ..Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing strong toxicities. Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 ALA - once every 3 hours (at night, 4 hours is OK) Take it at least 3 days, and then go without for at least the same amount of time. justin > > > From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> > Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala > > Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39 > > > Â > > > > I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. > Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three > days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. > Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. > TJ > > ________________________________ > From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> > > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM > Subject: [ ] starting Ala > > Â > Hello all > We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol > aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 > .Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing > strong toxicities. > Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thank you My son is 23kg wich is 50.6 pounds if i start giving him 1/32 mg per body weight 50.6:1/32 is 1.58 mg wich is 12.65 for 8 doses im sorry for my Q but i just whant to make shure i do not give him over dose. Thank you very much From: jfr219 <jfr219@...> Subject: [ ] Re: starting Ala Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 6:29  ALA - once every 3 hours (at night, 4 hours is OK) Take it at least 3 days, and then go without for at least the same amount of time. justin > > > From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> > Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala > > Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39 > > >  > > > > I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. > Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three > days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. > Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. > TJ > > ________________________________ > From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> > > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM > Subject: [ ] starting Ala > >  > Hello all > We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol > aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 > .Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing > strong toxicities. > Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Starting dose is usually around 1/8mg per pound of body weight. 50lb child would be 50 x .125 = 6.25mg If you start with a 25mg capsule this would be a 1/4 of a capsule. TJ ________________________________ From: Ralitsa Dimitrova <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 1:34:11 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: starting Ala Thank you My son is 23kg wich is 50.6 pounds if i start giving him 1/32 mg per body weight 50.6:1/32 is 1.58 mg wich is 12.65 for 8 doses im sorry for my Q but i just whant to make shure i do not give him over dose. Thank you very much From: jfr219 <jfr219@...> Subject: [ ] Re: starting Ala Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 6:29 ALA - once every 3 hours (at night, 4 hours is OK) Take it at least 3 days, and then go without for at least the same amount of time. justin > > > From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> > Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala > > Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39 > > > Â > > > > I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. > Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three > days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. > Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. > TJ > > ________________________________ > From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> > > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM > Subject: [ ] starting Ala > > Â > Hello all > We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol > aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 > .Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing > > strong toxicities. > Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thank you From: jfr219 <jfr219@...> Subject: [ ] Re: starting Ala Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 6:29 ALA - once every 3 hours (at night, 4 hours is OK) Take it at least 3 days, and then go without for at least the same amount of time. justin > > > From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...> > Subject: Re: [ ] starting Ala > > Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 17:39 > > > Â > > > > I don't know that ALA is contradictory to any other supplement. > Make sure you are giving it every three hours day and night for at least three > days, taking at least that amount off before starting again. > Make sure you are giving lots of antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. > TJ > > ________________________________ > From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> > > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 4:16:05 AM > Subject: [ ] starting Ala > > Â > Hello all > We are on GF/CF and all food intolerans restriction diet going on no fenol > aswell on lots of supliment,LDN imunomodulator we are starting ALA and kib500 > .Does anyone used kib500 can i used with ALA together .Our urin test is shouing > > strong toxicities. > Thank you all i receive lott of help from you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Make sure all amalgam fillings (if any) were safely removed and your son wasn't exposed to mercury in last 6 months. Check in the " Files " section. I'm sure you'll find ALOT of useful information. http://onibasu.com/ is a great place too. Good luck, Ralitsa! Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hy Emil Hi doesnt have any amalgam fillings but hi doesnt eath fish or seefood sins 1y as hi was on G-terapy and wasent allowed fish and eggs and others. Thanks again From: mv4002004 <mv4002004@...> Subject: [ ] Re: starting Ala Date: Wednesday, 15 September, 2010, 6:59 Â Make sure all amalgam fillings (if any) were safely removed and your son wasn't exposed to mercury in last 6 months. Check in the " Files " section. I'm sure you'll find ALOT of useful information. http://onibasu.com/ is a great place too. Good luck, Ralitsa! Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hello all i need your advice as i do read the files at all time trying not to ask stupid Q but i will ask as i need to be shure before starting . I red that serten vitamins and minerals need to be taken what kind you all use. My son in my opinion have OCD i have never been told that but if that meen to spit on his fingers and tuch his hair at all time yas hi has and the Q is i have at home test for strep would i do it befor i start ALA as i have red that if hi has PANDAS hi will regres. I have sent the hair metal test to DD lab but have not answe yet woul i wate for it as i do not know if my son has led so ALA shouldent be use when led need to be aut first. Im doing fluconazol/diflucan/ treatment and OLE as antyviral can i keep use that or need to stop/Actualy i have no qlue if my son have viruses as the simptoms can be sometimes behavioural. Anny help other than that will be greatly apresiated my DAN doesnt know i do not folow his protocol and i count on you all,I have purchased the book but is not here yet I cive my son vit D,vit E,vit C,biotin,B6,folic acid,leever support,omega3,6,9,OLECulturell,Sacch.Boul,B-complexs,Zinc,husk as a fibres,chrcoal,I do have some minerals but i do not give that right naw . Hi is 5.10y and arround 50,6 lib Im realy afraid when starting something new i go realy skared and i wach him not to happened something realy bad with him im realy going mad i know and I hope for your help Thank you all im so stupid not to find you earlier as someone in this grup once told me that will be soon too late for my son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's never too late. Make sure you follow the Andy Cutler protocol. TJ ________________________________ From: ralitsa76 <ralitsa76@...> Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 3:29:08 PM Subject: [ ] starting ALA Â Hello all i need your advice as i do read the files at all time trying not to ask stupid Q but i will ask as i need to be shure before starting . I red that serten vitamins and minerals need to be taken what kind you all use. My son in my opinion have OCD i have never been told that but if that meen to spit on his fingers and tuch his hair at all time yas hi has and the Q is i have at home test for strep would i do it befor i start ALA as i have red that if hi has PANDAS hi will regres. I have sent the hair metal test to DD lab but have not answe yet woul i wate for it as i do not know if my son has led so ALA shouldent be use when led need to be aut first. Im doing fluconazol/diflucan/ treatment and OLE as antyviral can i keep use that or need to stop/Actualy i have no qlue if my son have viruses as the simptoms can be sometimes behavioural. Anny help other than that will be greatly apresiated my DAN doesnt know i do not folow his protocol and i count on you all,I have purchased the book but is not here yet I cive my son vit D,vit E,vit C,biotin,B6,folic acid,leever support,omega3,6,9,OLECulturell,Sacch.Boul,B-complexs,Zinc,husk as a fibres,chrcoal,I do have some minerals but i do not give that right naw . Hi is 5.10y and arround 50,6 lib Im realy afraid when starting something new i go realy skared and i wach him not to happened something realy bad with him im realy going mad i know and I hope for your help Thank you all im so stupid not to find you earlier as someone in this grup once told me that will be soon too late for my son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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