Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 , I'm not a PD expert yet...not even finished with my first jar (using powder). BUT...learning a lot. Some is personal decisions. They say OK to use oregano oil and Colloidal silver but I'm restricting them to very little. You mentioned not taking garlic. I'm not going to stop that one! AND if I were you, I WOULD wait until you stop the PD to take any other probiotics. That's my semi-educated opinion. I wanted to take Homozon but will not confuse the issue and also stay with the PD. I take my PD on empty tummy after 2 glasses warm water AM, then half hour after PD I take my colostrum. And repeat the PD/colostrum regime before bed. May sneak it in mid afternoon too. Cheers, of Dewberry Hill I'm at the end of my 2nd bottle of PD now. Since I started the course I have been taking a more traditional probiotic - Flora Source, a little bit of Acdiophillus, 2 small cartons of live yoghurt and a 'Yakult friendly bacteria drink per day. Does this group think this wise? or should I keep off these until I'm nearing the end of the PD course to let the PD do it's stuff then stock up on the friendly flora to polish off the program ? " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 www.msm-msm.com just a little lower primal defense Hi everyone, I have run out of Primal Defense and need to get more. I have noticed that doctorstrust.com has raised their price to $31.75. Does anyone know of a lower price? Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 This is a reply I got to an email looking for a better deal. I think this is the best you will find Dear Diane: Greetings. The wholesale case price is $27 per bottle, 12 to a case. Call me to order cases because they are not available on our web sites. To your health! Dreher, CCN, CCH, author of " The Cleanse Cookbook " 's Cleanse Corner P.O.Box 421423 San Diego, CA 92142 858-673-0224 www.TransformYourHealth.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 << Greetings. The wholesale case price is $27 per bottle, 12 to a case. Call me to order cases because they are not available on our web sites. To your health! >> === This is also where I bought mine Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 This is at the beginning, as you clear out hmmm what needs to be cleared out This too shall pass Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 What IS the original formula and how does it differ from the present formula? of DH Please request the manufacturer of Primal Defense make the original formula. It is much better. " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Heck yeah! I KNOW I don't drink enough water with this stuff! What we want is to utilize and absorb all that good dark green nutritious stuff. but do not be alarmed about the coloring. Hope it works for you! -adele > Hello everyone > > I would like to know how many people out there experience dark stools > with Primal Defense. Its almost the color of the pill. I want to > see if it is normal or if I have another issue. > > Thanks! > Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 > > Hi, for those of you on this list taking Primal Defense, how many tablets/day are you taking? My doctor told me to take 2/day for a month, then 1/day. This doesn't seem like enough to me, so I increased the dosage to 3/day, since that's the maintenance dose. Otherwise I wonder if it will do any good? Since I " m not taking an anti-fungal (I wish I could take a natural one but my lab tests say my yeast isn't sensitive to any of the common natural remedies), I want to be sure I'm taking enough of the Primal Defense. > > Thanks! ~ , some people can't tolerate a lot of the Primal Defense at first due to die off but I would get up to the maximum dose of 12 per day as soon as possible. I took 12 a day for a year with rest periods. Try Aerobic Oxygen for Antifungal. These two products are about as good as it gets, in my opinion. Tom > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 I've been taking primal defense, along with jarro bacillus and a couple of other HSO probiotics and have not been having any problems. As far as I know, they don't help the sugar cravings though, you'll need some l-glutamine and chromium for that. Usually, four days without any sugar is enough to stop the cravings, but they can return extremely quickly. Primal Defense Hi All, I am new to this group, but yeast problems are not new to me. I have been battling for years. My downfall is always my sugar addiction. Lately my symptoms are worse, so I am getting serious. I have a question for the people taking Primal Defense. Do you take the pills all at once or space them out during the day? If you are taking 12, do you take 3, 4 times a day? Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Thanks for the suggestion on the sugar cravings. They are at bay right now after about three weeks of not eating any, but I am a true addict. If I have one piece of candy, I am sunk. I will try the supplements. Thanks again, Zelda > I've been taking primal defense, along with jarro bacillus and a couple of other HSO probiotics and have not been having any problems. > > As far as I know, they don't help the sugar cravings though, you'll need some l-glutamine and chromium for that. Usually, four days without any sugar is enough to stop the cravings, but they can return extremely quickly. > Primal Defense > > > Hi All, > > I am new to this group, but yeast problems are not new to me. I have > been battling for years. My downfall is always my sugar addiction. > Lately my symptoms are worse, so I am getting serious. > > I have a question for the people taking Primal Defense. Do you take > the pills all at once or space them out during the day? If you are > taking 12, do you take 3, 4 times a day? > > Thanks for your input. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 hi all - > This is a great quality product that seems to > actually work. I found 2 places that sell it at a huge > discount. > > http://www.iherb.com > http://www.msm-msm.com/ (go to the order link to find > all the Garden of Life products) both of these places sell PD for the same price as NEEDS - $31.95 Judith G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Hi Judith, I also got no benefit from that type of probiotic. Primal Defense is the best probiotic I've used. I found I had to start very gradually taking 1/2 pill a day and increasing dose over time. Steve B. >From: " Judith Gilbert " <jaegilbert@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: ****Th1 Probiotics **** >Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:38:17 -0700 > >hi all - > >FWIW I tried this with high hopes, but noticed no difference from the >regular Jarrow acidophilus I'd been using. Got much better results with >Primal Defense. > >Judith G > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Hi All, I was wondering how Primal Defense helped you all. So far I have heard two good reports. Thanks Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Hi Mike and everyone, I took one tablet of Primal Defense at my doc's suggestions and it set me into a bad four day relapse. I'm guessing it triggered a detox reaction, and I'm hypersensitive to anything that does this. I may try a 1/8 tablet and see what happens. michael >>In a message dated 10/15/02 1:36:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mikes@... writes: > > Hi All, > I was wondering how Primal Defense helped you all. So far I > have > heard two good reports. > > Thanks > Mike > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 What are the ingredients of Primal Defense? P. Re: Primal defense > Hi Mike and everyone, > > I took one tablet of Primal Defense at my doc's suggestions and it set me > into a bad four day relapse. I'm guessing it triggered a detox reaction, and > I'm hypersensitive to anything that does this. I may try a 1/8 tablet and see > what happens. > > michael > > > > >>In a message dated 10/15/02 1:36:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > mikes@... writes: > > > > > Hi All, > > I was wondering how Primal Defense helped you all. So far I > > have > > heard two good reports. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Yes, I also had a bad reaction the first time. I have been taking a half of a pill for the last week and have been doing better. Lynn > Hi Mike and everyone, > > I took one tablet of Primal Defense at my doc's suggestions and it set me > into a bad four day relapse. I'm guessing it triggered a detox reaction, and > I'm hypersensitive to anything that does this. I may try a 1/8 tablet and see > what happens. > > michael > > > > >>In a message dated 10/15/02 1:36:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > mikes@e... writes: > > > > > Hi All, > > I was wondering how Primal Defense helped you all. So far I > > have > > heard two good reports. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 I have not participated in the list a while but when browsing messages thought I'd give me experience with Primal Defense. When I first started it, I could only take one a day due to the dtox effect. Now I am on 12/day. I have had it recommended by a couple of different practioners. I am taking as I have been on antibiotics for lyme's for a year. How much has it helped me? I'm not sure but when I muscle test my body really wants this supplement. Phil - In @y..., " tloyd61275 " <tloyd@c...> wrote: > Yes, I also had a bad reaction the first time. I have been taking a > half of a pill for the last week and have been doing better. > > Lynn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Hi and All, , in your email, you mentioned that you took Primal Defense and it set you into a bad four day relapse. and then mentioned that you guessed that it triggered a detox reaction. I don't know what your reaction was. I also tried it and had some sort of reaction. A friend of mine had taken it over a long period of time and said that she thought that it was hard stuff to take but it helped her. I am not for or against Primal Defense. I may still try to take it. One thing that I wanted to mention was that I often read, where people say that they take something and then they are having a Herxheimer reaction or detoxing. I feel that that assumption may or may not be correct. It could be possible that some reaction is an indication that something harmful is happening, maybe like an allergic or toxic reaction and that the substance shouldn't be taken anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 In a message dated 10/16/02 10:26:52 AM, jseaton357@... writes: << There is a lot of talk on CFS list I'm on about Primal Defense. It is made by Garden of Life, a company I've always liked ever since taking their Perfect Food over a year ago (and the Klinghardt nurse told me they use Goatein, also made by them). Many people report that out of several probiotics this is the first one to really make a difference. Just thought I'd pass the word for those of you on ABX. >> - I have not been online due to severe personal family matters..... What I would like to say is that last week at a conference with Garden of Life Co. and THEY ARE EXCELLENT PRODUCTS!!! Primal Defense is just one of them and it is a probiotic which is unique because it also contains what they call " HSO's " which are homeostatic soil organisms or naturally occurring colonies of probiotics. Most probiotics have a difficult time implanting in someone's GI tract due to a pH imbalance. With HSO's they implant in any colonic environment. (I have info and do sell these products but you can also read their website www.gardenoflife.com). I am NOT advertising!! Their " Perfect Food " supplement is excellent also, super green formula. Another great product is called " RM-10 " , immune system builder. " Goatein " is goat's milk colostrum--protein powder. These products are the top of the line when it comes to supplements. I do give 10% for first orders. If anyone wants info, plz e-mail @ suemassie45@... or you can call me @ 732 933-4011. sue in nj sue massie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Phil, Do you muscle test yourself? How do you do that? Could you explain if you have time. Thanks. Nil Re: Primal defense | I have not participated in the list a while but when browsing | messages thought I'd give me experience with Primal Defense. When I | first started it, I could only take one a day due to the dtox effect. | Now I am on 12/day. I have had it recommended by a couple of | different practioners. I am taking as I have been on antibiotics for | lyme's for a year. How much has it helped me? I'm not sure but when I | muscle test my body really wants this supplement. | | Phil | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 An extract of coconut called caprylic acid kills candida but I think it's a long process, we're talking months, along with an anti candida diet and other supplements. Don't know if coconut oil kills anything else. Anyone?????? ------------- bowel cleanse writes: >CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THEY USED PRIMAL DEFENSE AND DOES IT GET RID OF >PARASITES THEY TOLD ME COCONUT OIL GETS RID OF THEM i BEEN TAKING IT >FOR 4 DAYS NOW AND HAVENT SEEN ANY THANKS DEBBIE LOOKIN FOWARD FOR >THE ANSWER LOVE THIS GROUP SO HELPFUL > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Nil I'm waaay behind in emails. I muscle test with the thumb and first finger of my right hand. Place them together. Then do the same with the left hand. The left hand fingers are placed inside the right hand fingers. I hold the item to be tested in my armpit or if sittingplace it on my lap. I then ask if I need the supplement or food(whatever I'm testing). When asking the question the left hand fingers are pushed against the right hand fingers. If the fingers slip apart then that is a " no " ; if they remain together that is a " yes " . I use to determine doses also and the usefullness of different treaments. Test yourself by asking your name.(ie. Is my name Nil? Is my name Jack? )There should be a difference in the fingers' strength.Let me know it this doesn't help. Phil Ynt: Re: Primal defense Phil, Do you muscle test yourself? How do you do that? Could you explain if you have time. Thanks. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: redbigboy < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Thanks for detailed explanation Phil! Yes,I have understood it but still there is one thing my mind resists to accept.If I ask if my name is Jack,my subconscious knows that my name is not Jack, but how could it know that a supplement which I have never tried before can be good or bad for me? Let's say PD.I have never tried it. How can my subconscious know if it is good for me.How can we trust the results?Or would you think when we place the supplement on the body it causes some change in the bioelectrical field of the body and that is how muscle testing works? Thank you so much anyway,I will try it. Nil Ynt: Re: Primal defense | | | Phil, | Do you muscle test yourself? How do you do that? Could you explain if you | have time. | Thanks. | Nil | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: redbigboy < | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Kathy, Glad to hear that your healthcare team has adjusted your dosages. Rich > Hi Group- > > In my last NEEDS order, this info sheet on Primal Defense was included. I had never seen it before and wish I had it from the beginning. > > Since some of us use this product, one section that may be of interest: > > " Primal Defense can increase absorption. THIS MEANS THAT EVERYTHING YOU INGEST, INCLUDING SUPPLEMENTS, DRUGS AND FOOD, WILL BE ABSORBED AND ASSIMILATED BETTER. You will need to monitor any medication, such a insulin and blood pressure medicine to insure you are not taking too much. Vitamin, minerals,antioxidants and whole food supplements (such as greens) are fine. ........ " > > I was with my natural healer yesterday and with the blessings of my doctor, we have cut my Armour in half and reduced the Drenamin down to 1/4 cap. We are also making huge changes in my natural hormones. Am I just getting a little better or is this due to absorption being better from PD? Who knows. But she sure picked up on the palpitations, etrogen dominanance and other stuff really quick. > > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 From: <richvank@...> > > Glad to hear that your healthcare team has adjusted your dosages. > > Rich Hi Rich- Thanks. I now view changes with great skepticism as my pattern is to crash-ez-vous within a week after changing something as powerful as hormones. I have found noone who has been able to help me balance my poor body since the events of 1999. Yes... and what a bizarre collection of traditional and alternative practitioners I have on my little ole healthcare team!! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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