Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Were they injecting mercury into one day old babies a thousand years ago? We live in a much more toxic world than in previous history. The subject line is not " cooking with cilantro " , but " chelating with cilantro " Putting a little of it on you food as a spice is much different than eating pills made from cilantro concentrate, or eating large quantities on a daily basis. If our kids weren't poisoned, we wouldn't be here. TJ ________________________________ From: Crystal Palmer-Bull <cpalmerbull@...> Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 10:41:59 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation  I am sorry but that is really crazy talk.. people have eat cilantro for thousands of years with a very safe history .. that’s like saying let’s not eat pepper or oregano or tomatoes until scientific trials say it is safe to eat… sorry .. that is just crazy! I don’t need to study raw milk either… I make it and fed it to my children right from my breast… do we need studies to actually tell us breast milk is best?? Some here use all these other less used supplements (ALA)but OH NO don’t eat something proven safe by human use for literally thousands of years, and by the way those populations have the lowest autism rates.. so cook with it just like you do any healthful food and stop trying to make basic human traditional diets seem like some prescription…. It’s hard enough to get the press or Dr’s to realize that eating healthy is not some unstudied remedy for autism… it is the foundation of good health and always has been.. this is ridiculous! Eat and be merry , probably the safest chelator around. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Pamela H Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 We read a story about a study that eat " freshly chopped cilantro only 0.25 cup per day " ( which is not much), mixed with a bowl of fresh salad, I like to sprinkle them on top of my entree (stew meat or fish), for 3 weeks straight ( 0.25 cup of fresh chopped cilantro), and that made an autistic boy starting to talk. Sincerely, Rei Branch President Network Funding, LP 9700 Richmond Ave, #320 Houston, TX 77042 Cell: 915-691-9072 Refinance with a historically low rate now! From: Crystal Palmer-Bull <cpalmerbull@...> Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 12:41 PM  I am sorry but that is really crazy talk.. people have eat cilantro for thousands of years with a very safe history .. that’s like saying let’s not eat pepper or oregano or tomatoes until scientific trials say it is safe to eat… sorry .. that is just crazy! I don’t need to study raw milk either… I make it and fed it to my children right from my breast… do we need studies to actually tell us breast milk is best?? Some here use all these other less used supplements (ALA)but OH NO don’t eat something proven safe by human use for literally thousands of years, and by the way those populations have the lowest autism rates.. so cook with it just like you do any healthful food and stop trying to make basic human traditional diets seem like some prescription…. It’s hard enough to get the press or Dr’s to realize that eating healthy is not some unstudied remedy for autism… it is the foundation of good health and always has been.. this is ridiculous! Eat and be merry , probably the safest chelator around. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Pamela H Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 I disagree, heavy metal poisoning is nothing new even if injecting it may be, lol I cook with it very very liberally and I think it may be comparable .. I am not sure.. but I defiantly use a lot. The proof is in the pudding … the cultures that eat these natural detoxing foods the most have the lowest autism rates in the world … I am just saying we all do very experimental things on this board… cilantro is the least harmful and most time tested of all … with likely the longest track record of safe use . I made the point because it is a bit hypocritical to say oh yeah newbie’s trust me on all this chelating and supplementing … but be careful with an herb that has been safely detoxing people for thousands of years. We have to practice what we preach right. We as a whole group are not taken seriously because we do things that are not mainstream or push the envelope of current understandings … lets not lose sight of the obvious. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of TJ Werth Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Were they injecting mercury into one day old babies a thousand years ago? We live in a much more toxic world than in previous history. The subject line is not " cooking with cilantro " , but " chelating with cilantro " Putting a little of it on you food as a spice is much different than eating pills made from cilantro concentrate, or eating large quantities on a daily basis. If our kids weren't poisoned, we wouldn't be here. TJ ________________________________ From: Crystal Palmer-Bull <cpalmerbull@... <mailto:cpalmerbull%40crystalimagingstudio.net> > <mailto: %40> Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 10:41:59 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation I am sorry but that is really crazy talk.. people have eat cilantro for thousands of years with a very safe history .. that’s like saying let’s not eat pepper or oregano or tomatoes until scientific trials say it is safe to eat… sorry .. that is just crazy! I don’t need to study raw milk either… I make it and fed it to my children right from my breast… do we need studies to actually tell us breast milk is best?? Some here use all these other less used supplements (ALA)but OH NO don’t eat something proven safe by human use for literally thousands of years, and by the way those populations have the lowest autism rates.. so cook with it just like you do any healthful food and stop trying to make basic human traditional diets seem like some prescription…. It’s hard enough to get the press or Dr’s to realize that eating healthy is not some unstudied remedy for autism… it is the foundation of good health and always has been.. this is ridiculous! Eat and be merry , probably the safest chelator around. From: <mailto: %40> [mailto: <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of Pamela H Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:43 PM <mailto: %40> Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Exactly… I hear many positive stories…. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation We read a story about a study that eat " freshly chopped cilantro only 0.25 cup per day " ( which is not much), mixed with a bowl of fresh salad, I like to sprinkle them on top of my entree (stew meat or fish), for 3 weeks straight ( 0.25 cup of fresh chopped cilantro), and that made an autistic boy starting to talk. Sincerely, Rei Branch President Network Funding, LP 9700 Richmond Ave, #320 Houston, TX 77042 Cell: 915-691-9072 Refinance with a historically low rate now! From: Crystal Palmer-Bull <cpalmerbull@... <mailto:cpalmerbull%40crystalimagingstudio.net> > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation <mailto: %40> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 12:41 PM I am sorry but that is really crazy talk.. people have eat cilantro for thousands of years with a very safe history .. that’s like saying let’s not eat pepper or oregano or tomatoes until scientific trials say it is safe to eat… sorry .. that is just crazy! I don’t need to study raw milk either… I make it and fed it to my children right from my breast… do we need studies to actually tell us breast milk is best?? Some here use all these other less used supplements (ALA)but OH NO don’t eat something proven safe by human use for literally thousands of years, and by the way those populations have the lowest autism rates.. so cook with it just like you do any healthful food and stop trying to make basic human traditional diets seem like some prescription…. It’s hard enough to get the press or Dr’s to realize that eating healthy is not some unstudied remedy for autism… it is the foundation of good health and always has been.. this is ridiculous! Eat and be merry , probably the safest chelator around. From: <mailto: %40> [mailto: <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of Pamela H Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:43 PM <mailto: %40> Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 I haven't been on this forum for a long time, mainly because my son is doing much better now. I love this forum, and different points debating from one and another. Anyway, I also started to take ALA myself. I read one of the fellow group mates' email, I took 1/8 mg x 119 lb ( my weigh) of ALA, every 3 hours. Here is my question: Is it normal to feel some kind of heat or hot flush from internal after taking ALA? ( the sensation like a fever, but not that high temp as a real fever.)  Also, at the meantime, we ate 0.25 cup of fresh, chopped cilantro mixed with our cucumber salad for lunch....  When I took the 2nd round of ALA, the heat sensation from internal went stronger... Is it normal?  Thanks a lot. Sincerely, Rei Network Funding, LP 9700 Richmond Ave, #320 Houston, TX 77042 Cell: 915-691-9072 Refinance with a historically low rate now! 3.75% for 15 years. From: Crystal Palmer-Bull <cpalmerbull@... <mailto:cpalmerbull%40crystalimagingstudio.net> > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation <mailto: %40> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 12:41 PM I am sorry but that is really crazy talk.. people have eat cilantro for thousands of years with a very safe history .. that’s like saying let’s not eat pepper or oregano or tomatoes until scientific trials say it is safe to eat… sorry .. that is just crazy! I don’t need to study raw milk either… I make it and fed it to my children right from my breast… do we need studies to actually tell us breast milk is best?? Some here use all these other less used supplements (ALA)but OH NO don’t eat something proven safe by human use for literally thousands of years, and by the way those populations have the lowest autism rates.. so cook with it just like you do any healthful food and stop trying to make basic human traditional diets seem like some prescription…. It’s hard enough to get the press or Dr’s to realize that eating healthy is not some unstudied remedy for autism… it is the foundation of good health and always has been.. this is ridiculous! Eat and be merry , probably the safest chelator around. From: <mailto: %40> [mailto: <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of Pamela H Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:43 PM <mailto: %40> Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation Cilantro does chelate mercury, but it is unstudied and unpredictable. I would not use any product that contains cilantro for chelating purposes because of this fact. Nobody knows what dose chelates, how safely it chelates, how often to use it, etc. I think most (if not all) of the basis for chelating with cilantro comes from the research of Dr. Omura (spelling?) in 1995. When I read the abstract, it talked about using 100 mgs cilantro tablet and some 'drug uptake enhancement methods'. Not sure what that means and if that means just taking cilantro alone is insufficient and/or dangerous. You'd have to look in to it further if you wanted to know. I do not know if any cilantro tablets out there on the market are even tested for chelation ability prior to selling. Again, you'll have to check on that. They believe it crosses the blood-brain barrier, too. Proceed with caution. Just because this is a 'natural' substance doesn't mean it is safe by any means. Pam > > Hi Dana, > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy diarrhea 4 hours later? > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 > We read a story about a study that eat " freshly chopped cilantro only 0.25 cup per day " ( which is not much), mixed with a bowl of fresh salad, I like to sprinkle them on top of my entree (stew meat or fish), for 3 weeks straight ( 0.25 cup of fresh chopped cilantro), and that made an autistic boy starting to talk. This kind of silliness reminds me of the news story in the 1980's about the guy diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer and sent home to die. He didn't like how it was going so he shot himself in the head. Someone called 911, they rushed him to the emergency room and saved him, and also found out the bullet had blown out the tumor and cured his cancer! I always thought of that as God reminding the surgeon of who really could perform miracles :-) However, shooting yourself in the head to try to cure your cancer based on this story makes more sense than most of what I see on the net about " and that autistic boy XXXXX. " At least the cancer story is actually true, when I've looked into these other stories they often are not. The ones that are fall under the umbrella that if you do something random to enough people, one of them will end up exhibiting whatever phenomenon you are looking for totally by chance. It's like the silly ads on my computer screen all the time " Tacoma Mom lost 43 pounds following one simple rule! " Etc. If you care about your kid at all, take responsibility and think things through. Comments like " it's just food, it must be safe! " are pretty silly in light of how many people get food poisoning, and of things like Lathyrism, a disease where eating a certain kind of pea causes paralysis in many people. You don't want some possibly made up story about somebody got better once (maybe) doing something wonderful and easy. You want lots of concrete, factual information, presented in a way you can check for yourself and understand it well, that is clearly related to your kid's situation. It should come from a credible source that has been saying the same thing for a while, not a different random thing every year or two. Whether or not this goes along with your personal worldview, or is too conservative, your kid deserves nothing less than you taking some personal responsibility to really figure out if what you are going to do for them is a good idea or not. Remember, they got turned autistic because you didn't do that - but that time it was a lot easier to excuse since there was this whole institution of people pretending to great expertise that were telling you made up lies about the safety of vaccines and the lack of any connection between them and autism. Andy http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 This would be an entertaining diatribe if it weren't for the fact that some of the worst adverse reaction stories I've collected involve toxic people and cilantro. I agree we don't need safety studies on everything before we use them, but we do need to think, understand, and pay attention to what happens. If you don't have much mercury you can eat all the cilantro you want. Throughout most of history, people who weren't exposed to much mercury ate cilantro - and they lived in times and places where people were dropping like flies anyway, so if cilantro was killing them nobody would have noticed. Now we live in a time and place where people get loaded up with mercury at a young age. Most foods are still fine. Not all of them. THe mercury changed, the merits of eating foods that happen to have chelators in them also changed. Andy http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD > > > Hi Dana, > > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy > diarrhea 4 hours later? > > > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > > > Dana > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 No, this is not the same as saying don't eat tomatoes. People are chelating with concentrated capsules of cilantro, not munching on a few tablespoons of the stuff. Very different than cooking with it. They are taking these pills every 6 hours for days/weeks at a time in an attempt to mobilize mercury, lead and arsenic. I eat cilantro. I would not ingest large quantities of a known chelator without any testing to back up the safety. Cilantro is a known chelator. Lipoic acid (ALA) is found in dark leafy green vegetables and animal protein, but we do not avoid those. But, you need to be careful when taking capsules of the stuff. pam > > > Hi Dana, > > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy > diarrhea 4 hours later? > > > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > > > Dana > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Things like that happen all the time.. impossible right ... wrong. My son was dx with autism.. it was real. but now he recovered . they say oh must not have been autism.. My dad had some health issues and was getting checked out they did some scan of his liver and said get your affairs in order you have end stage liver cancer yadda yadda. well My dad is still here and that was 20 years ago. turned out they were non cancer cysts on his liver . The medical community doesn't know crap most of the time and therefore it makes even more of these stories. You can say you don't believe me when my son looked me in the eye (sustainably ) for the 1st time just hours after dinking his 1st cup of RAW goat milk. you can say you don't believe me . that's fine . my kid is healthy and flourishing, reading and writing, singing and dancing and playing baseball and is very popular. You don't have to believe me but you should. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of andrewhallcutler Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation > We read a story about a study that eat " freshly chopped cilantro only 0.25 cup per day " ( which is not much), mixed with a bowl of fresh salad, I like to sprinkle them on top of my entree (stew meat or fish), for 3 weeks straight ( 0.25 cup of fresh chopped cilantro), and that made an autistic boy starting to talk. This kind of silliness reminds me of the news story in the 1980's about the guy diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer and sent home to die. He didn't like how it was going so he shot himself in the head. Someone called 911, they rushed him to the emergency room and saved him, and also found out the bullet had blown out the tumor and cured his cancer! I always thought of that as God reminding the surgeon of who really could perform miracles :-) However, shooting yourself in the head to try to cure your cancer based on this story makes more sense than most of what I see on the net about " and that autistic boy XXXXX. " At least the cancer story is actually true, when I've looked into these other stories they often are not. The ones that are fall under the umbrella that if you do something random to enough people, one of them will end up exhibiting whatever phenomenon you are looking for totally by chance. It's like the silly ads on my computer screen all the time " Tacoma Mom lost 43 pounds following one simple rule! " Etc. If you care about your kid at all, take responsibility and think things through. Comments like " it's just food, it must be safe! " are pretty silly in light of how many people get food poisoning, and of things like Lathyrism, a disease where eating a certain kind of pea causes paralysis in many people. You don't want some possibly made up story about somebody got better once (maybe) doing something wonderful and easy. You want lots of concrete, factual information, presented in a way you can check for yourself and understand it well, that is clearly related to your kid's situation. It should come from a credible source that has been saying the same thing for a while, not a different random thing every year or two. Whether or not this goes along with your personal worldview, or is too conservative, your kid deserves nothing less than you taking some personal responsibility to really figure out if what you are going to do for them is a good idea or not. Remember, they got turned autistic because you didn't do that - but that time it was a lot easier to excuse since there was this whole institution of people pretending to great expertise that were telling you made up lies about the safety of vaccines and the lack of any connection between them and autism. Andy http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 We live next to Lafarge Ravena in NY …the 4th biggest mercury polluter in the county and we use large amounts of cilantro in cooking and I have had no bad effects in my son.. and like I said earlier neither cilantro nor the ALA (we took in 100mg 1 a day doses.. not your protocol and NO I would not likely do it my way again) were really the deal breaker for us. But that is just us. With all the detoxing and biomedical supplements … it was just treating the symptoms… and the second you stopped regression occurred and it just wasn’t sustainable. After the raw goat milk esp the raw colostrums we have not gone back to the supplements and he has no regression and he has never done better! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of andrewhallcutler Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:28 PM Subject: [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation This would be an entertaining diatribe if it weren't for the fact that some of the worst adverse reaction stories I've collected involve toxic people and cilantro. I agree we don't need safety studies on everything before we use them, but we do need to think, understand, and pay attention to what happens. If you don't have much mercury you can eat all the cilantro you want. Throughout most of history, people who weren't exposed to much mercury ate cilantro - and they lived in times and places where people were dropping like flies anyway, so if cilantro was killing them nobody would have noticed. Now we live in a time and place where people get loaded up with mercury at a young age. Most foods are still fine. Not all of them. THe mercury changed, the merits of eating foods that happen to have chelators in them also changed. Andy http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD > > > Hi Dana, > > > I gave my son candidase on an empty stomach but he ended up with gassy > diarrhea 4 hours later? > > > > This sounds like die off, at least it was at my house. > > > > Dana > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Andy, Hello. I have sent you email today and previously as well. I really am in desperate need to consult with you. Please please reply and let me know how can I get in touch with you. Thank you, Shruti. > > > We read a story about a study that eat " freshly chopped cilantro only 0.25 cup per day " ( which is not much), mixed with a bowl of fresh salad, I like to sprinkle them on top of my entree (stew meat or fish), for 3 weeks straight ( 0.25 cup of fresh chopped cilantro), and that made an autistic boy starting to talk. > > This kind of silliness reminds me of the news story in the 1980's about the guy diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer and sent home to die. He didn't like how it was going so he shot himself in the head. > > Someone called 911, they rushed him to the emergency room and saved him, and also found out the bullet had blown out the tumor and cured his cancer! > > I always thought of that as God reminding the surgeon of who really could perform miracles :-) > > However, shooting yourself in the head to try to cure your cancer based on this story makes more sense than most of what I see on the net about " and that autistic boy XXXXX. " At least the cancer story is actually true, when I've looked into these other stories they often are not. > > The ones that are fall under the umbrella that if you do something random to enough people, one of them will end up exhibiting whatever phenomenon you are looking for totally by chance. > > It's like the silly ads on my computer screen all the time " Tacoma Mom lost 43 pounds following one simple rule! " Etc. > > If you care about your kid at all, take responsibility and think things through. Comments like " it's just food, it must be safe! " are pretty silly in light of how many people get food poisoning, and of things like Lathyrism, a disease where eating a certain kind of pea causes paralysis in many people. > > You don't want some possibly made up story about somebody got better once (maybe) doing something wonderful and easy. > > You want lots of concrete, factual information, presented in a way you can check for yourself and understand it well, that is clearly related to your kid's situation. It should come from a credible source that has been saying the same thing for a while, not a different random thing every year or two. > > Whether or not this goes along with your personal worldview, or is too conservative, your kid deserves nothing less than you taking some personal responsibility to really figure out if what you are going to do for them is a good idea or not. Remember, they got turned autistic because you didn't do that - but that time it was a lot easier to excuse since there was this whole institution of people pretending to great expertise that were telling you made up lies about the safety of vaccines and the lack of any connection between them and autism. > > Andy > > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities > > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children > > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 > Lipoic acid (ALA) is found in dark leafy green vegetables and animal protein, but we do not avoid those. But, you need to be careful when taking capsules of the stuff. > No, you are mistaken. Alpha LINOLENIC Acid, sometimes abbreviated ALA, is found in dark leafy vegetables like spinach. Alpha Lipoic Acid is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Alpha Lipoic Acid is in potatoes, in very small quantities, but it is thought that the food prohibits it from being absorbed, or something like that. But ALA, or alpha lipoic acid is found in small quantities in food. [ ] Re: I mean Cilantro chelation > Lipoic acid (ALA) is found in dark leafy green vegetables and animal protein, but we do not avoid those. But, you need to be careful when taking capsules of the stuff. > No, you are mistaken. Alpha LINOLENIC Acid, sometimes abbreviated ALA, is found in dark leafy vegetables like spinach. Alpha Lipoic Acid is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Nope. Not mistaken. http://www.ehow.com/facts_4827460_that-contain-alpha-lipoic-acid.html Not that ehow is my go-to source, but it had the simplest version. Very small amounts in food, but it is there. I was just trying to make a point about eating cilantro in a salad vs swallowing a handful of concentrated cilantro in a capsule (I think that was my point, I don't recall). You are correct, we do confuse the two quite a bit. If I had a nickel for every post freaked out about ALA in their fish oil... Pam > > > Lipoic acid (ALA) is found in dark leafy green vegetables and animal protein, but we do not avoid those. But, you need to be careful when taking capsules of the stuff. > > > > No, you are mistaken. > > Alpha LINOLENIC Acid, sometimes abbreviated ALA, is found in dark leafy vegetables like spinach. > > Alpha Lipoic Acid is not. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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