Andy & others please.....questions before starting chelation......

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information and

courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is non-verbal. We have

recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed a course of Diflucan and

Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12 shots next.

 

His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the following

Lead 0.033 mcg/g  (ref range <= 0.048)

Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

 

Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

 

Can someone please throw more light on this ?

I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to do a hair

analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

 

I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do transdermal. But

I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make sure that his current mineral

levels are alright  to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a

3 day on/ 4 day off schedule ?

His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate, moderate

need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

 

He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis. Also high

neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative stress.

 

He is currently taking the following supplements

Biotin - 15mg X 3

Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

 

Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

 

Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

CoQ10 - 100 mg

Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6 - 110 mg,

Omega 9 - 120 mg )

 

DMG 125mg

DMAE 351 mg X 2

MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

 

Taurine 500 mg

Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

Turmeric 450 mg

Chlorella 500 mg

Folic Acid  5mg

 

Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

Vit E 200 IU

Vit A 10000 IU

Vit D3 1000 IU

Vit B Complex(B50)

 

Zinc 65mg

Selenium 100mcg

Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg      

 

I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read discussions

about an older child taking longer to respond and I want to get going as soon as

I can.

Please help.

 

Regards.

 

Deepa.

[Guest guest]

See interspersed comments, especially about chlorella.

Viswadeepa Das wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information

> and courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is

> non-verbal. We have recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed

> a course of Diflucan and Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12

> shots next.

>

> His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the

> following

>

This is of no utility whatsoever.

The test of utility is the DDI Hair Elements test.

Of even greater utility would be a regular lab's RBC blood test and a

" chem-20 " , TSH, free T4, free T3, homocysteine.

And a description of SYMPTOMS.

> Lead 0.033 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.048)

> Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

> Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

> Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

>

> Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

> Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

> Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

> Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

> Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

> Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

>

> Can someone please throw more light on this ?

> I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to

> do a hair analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

>

No. Need is a strong word. You can start chelation based on symptoms and

evaluate its utility based on whether there is any reaction to it. The

hair test is very useful for other things--thyroid, adrenals, etc...

>

> I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do

> transdermal. But I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make

> sure that his current mineral levels are alright

>

Andy Cutler _used_ to say that copper needed to be reduced if it was a

problem, but he has since changed his mind. As long as you are

supplementing _during_ chelation, things are OK to start. (General

comment, not based on the test result above).

> to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a 3 day on/

> 4 day off schedule ?

>

> His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

> beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate,

> moderate need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

>

Do NOT supplement copper or iron until you get the result of the hair test.

>

> He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis.

> Also high neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative stress.

>

> He is currently taking the following supplements

>

> Biotin - 15mg X 3

> Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

> Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

> Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

>

> Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

>

> Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

> CoQ10 - 100 mg

> Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6

> - 110 mg, Omega 9 - 120 mg )

>

> DMG 125mg

> DMAE 351 mg X 2

> MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

>

> Taurine 500 mg

> Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

> Turmeric 450 mg

> Chlorella 500 mg

>

DISCONTINUE CHLORELLA IMMEDIATELY! Chlorella is a known mercury

disturber. It causes redistribution of metals to the organs and brain,

and thus possible irreversible damage.

> Folic Acid 5mg

>

> Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

> Vit E 200 IU

> Vit A 10000 IU

>

From retinol, not carotenes, yes?

> Vit D3 1000 IU

> Vit B Complex(B50)

>

> Zinc 65mg

> Selenium 100mcg

> Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg     

>

More Mg is always a good thing. See Amalgam Illness.

>

>

> I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read

> discussions about an older child taking longer to respond and I want

> to get going as soon as I can.

> Please help.

>

Please read BOTH Andy Cutler's books cover to cover. There are very very

useful here.

http://www.noamalgam.com

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

> Regards.

>

> Deepa.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

Thank you for the quick response.

 

I am planning to get Amalgam Illness....meanwhile I'm reading on Google books

and here.

I will stop chlorella. Thank you.

The Vit A IS from beta-carotene.....is this not right ?....kindly comment.

I will probably do the hair test. Here are some of his characteristics....though

not sure which are symptoms.

 

He has difficulty in focusing.

Shows anxiety and restlessness.

Cannot seem to tolerate hunger.

Unpredictable Mood swings.

Quickly frustrated and angry.

Occassional giggling without reason.

Lot of humming to himself....goes 'mmmm' for long stretches of time.

Almost completely non-verbal.

Low muscle tone and difficulty with fine motor activities.

Sensitive to noise and touch....doesn't like loud noises and rough textures.

Fidgety with his fingers.

Seems edgy and irritated.

Flaps his hands when agitated

Sleeps well.

Good appetite.

Regular with BMs.

Normally obedient.

 

He is on a GFCF diet for some years now.....which has helped with his chronic

diarrhea but not much else.

Thanks again. Regards.

 

Deepa.

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information

> and courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is

> non-verbal. We have recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed

> a course of Diflucan and Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12

> shots next.

>

> His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the

> following

>

This is of no utility whatsoever.

The test of utility is the DDI Hair Elements test.

Of even greater utility would be a regular lab's RBC blood test and a

" chem-20 " , TSH, free T4, free T3, homocysteine.

And a description of SYMPTOMS.

> Lead 0.033 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.048)

> Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

> Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

> Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

>

> Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

> Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

> Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

> Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

> Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

> Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

>

> Can someone please throw more light on this ?

> I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to

> do a hair analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

>

No. Need is a strong word. You can start chelation based on symptoms and

evaluate its utility based on whether there is any reaction to it. The

hair test is very useful for other things--thyroid, adrenals, etc...

>

> I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do

> transdermal. But I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make

> sure that his current mineral levels are alright

>

Andy Cutler _used_ to say that copper needed to be reduced if it was a

problem, but he has since changed his mind. As long as you are

supplementing _during_ chelation, things are OK to start. (General

comment, not based on the test result above).

> to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a 3 day on/

> 4 day off schedule ?

>

> His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

> beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate ,

> moderate need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

>

Do NOT supplement copper or iron until you get the result of the hair test.

>

> He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis.

> Also high neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative stress.

>

> He is currently taking the following supplements

>

> Biotin - 15mg X 3

> Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

> Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

> Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

>

> Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

>

> Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

> CoQ10 - 100 mg

> Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6

> - 110 mg, Omega 9 - 120 mg )

>

> DMG 125mg

> DMAE 351 mg X 2

> MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

>

> Taurine 500 mg

> Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

> Turmeric 450 mg

> Chlorella 500 mg

>

DISCONTINUE CHLORELLA IMMEDIATELY! Chlorella is a known mercury

disturber. It causes redistribution of metals to the organs and brain,

and thus possible irreversible damage.

> Folic Acid 5mg

>

> Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

> Vit E 200 IU

> Vit A 10000 IU

>

From retinol, not carotenes, yes?

> Vit D3 1000 IU

> Vit B Complex(B50)

>

> Zinc 65mg

> Selenium 100mcg

> Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg     

>

More Mg is always a good thing. See Amalgam Illness.

>

>

> I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read

> discussions about an older child taking longer to respond and I want

> to get going as soon as I can.

> Please help.

>

Please read BOTH Andy Cutler's books cover to cover. There are very very

useful here.

http://www.noamalga m.com

http://www.noamalga m.com/hairtestbo ok.html

>

> Regards.

>

> Deepa.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Viswadeepa Das wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you for the quick response.

>

> I am planning to get Amalgam Illness....meanwhile I'm reading on

> Google books and here.

> I will stop chlorella. Thank you.

> The Vit A IS from beta-carotene.....is this not right ?....kindly comment.

>

Mercury-toxic bodies have problems converting beta-carotene to Vitamin

A. (It's not the same thing. Vitamin manufacturers sell you the

beta-carotene on the assumption that the body will do what it's supposed

to do and convert it. ) You want actual vitamin A such as retinol or

palmitate, which are derived from fish oil:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=CL-1431

> I will probably do the hair test. Here are some of his

> characteristics....though not sure which are symptoms.

>

They all are symptoms of _something_... Yes the hair test is a good

idea. It's on sale this month at www.directlabs.com. Make sure to get

the " Hair Elements " , not the other hair test.

Did the anti-fungals the DAN prescribed do anything for the symptoms?

They should work pretty fast.

>

> He has difficulty in focusing.

> Shows anxiety and restlessness.

> Cannot seem to tolerate hunger.

> Unpredictable Mood swings.

> Quickly frustrated and angry.

> Occassional giggling without reason.

> Lot of humming to himself....goes 'mmmm' for long stretches of time.

> Almost completely non-verbal.

> Low muscle tone and difficulty with fine motor activities.

> Sensitive to noise and touch....doesn't like loud noises and rough

> textures.

> Fidgety with his fingers.

> Seems edgy and irritated.

> Flaps his hands when agitated

> Sleeps well.

> Good appetite.

> Regular with BMs.

> Normally obedient.

>

> He is on a GFCF diet for some years now.....which has helped with his

> chronic diarrhea but not much else.

> Thanks again. Regards.

>

> Deepa.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information

> > and courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is

> > non-verbal. We have recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed

> > a course of Diflucan and Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12

> > shots next.

> >

> > His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the

> > following

> >

> This is of no utility whatsoever.

>

> The test of utility is the DDI Hair Elements test.

>

> Of even greater utility would be a regular lab's RBC blood test and a

> " chem-20 " , TSH, free T4, free T3, homocysteine.

>

> And a description of SYMPTOMS.

>

> > Lead 0.033 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.048)

> > Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

> > Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

> > Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

> >

> > Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

> > Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

> > Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

> > Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

> > Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

> > Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

> >

> > Can someone please throw more light on this ?

> > I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to

> > do a hair analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

> >

> No. Need is a strong word. You can start chelation based on symptoms and

> evaluate its utility based on whether there is any reaction to it. The

> hair test is very useful for other things--thyroid, adrenals, etc...

>

> >

> > I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do

> > transdermal. But I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make

> > sure that his current mineral levels are alright

> >

> Andy Cutler _used_ to say that copper needed to be reduced if it was a

> problem, but he has since changed his mind. As long as you are

> supplementing _during_ chelation, things are OK to start. (General

> comment, not based on the test result above).

>

> > to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a 3 day on/

> > 4 day off schedule ?

> >

> > His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

> > beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate ,

> > moderate need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

> >

> Do NOT supplement copper or iron until you get the result of the hair

> test.

>

> >

> > He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis.

> > Also high neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative

> stress.

> >

> > He is currently taking the following supplements

> >

> > Biotin - 15mg X 3

> > Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

> > Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

> > Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

> >

> > Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

> >

> > Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

> > CoQ10 - 100 mg

> > Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6

> > - 110 mg, Omega 9 - 120 mg )

> >

> > DMG 125mg

> > DMAE 351 mg X 2

> > MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

> >

> > Taurine 500 mg

> > Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

> > Turmeric 450 mg

> > Chlorella 500 mg

> >

> DISCONTINUE CHLORELLA IMMEDIATELY! Chlorella is a known mercury

> disturber. It causes redistribution of metals to the organs and brain,

> and thus possible irreversible damage.

>

> > Folic Acid 5mg

> >

> > Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

> > Vit E 200 IU

> > Vit A 10000 IU

> >

> >From retinol, not carotenes, yes?

>

> > Vit D3 1000 IU

> > Vit B Complex(B50)

> >

> > Zinc 65mg

> > Selenium 100mcg

> > Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg     

> >

> More Mg is always a good thing. See Amalgam Illness.

>

> >

> >

> > I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read

> > discussions about an older child taking longer to respond and I want

> > to get going as soon as I can.

> > Please help.

> >

> Please read BOTH Andy Cutler's books cover to cover. There are very very

> useful here.

>

> http://www.noamalga m.com

> http://www.noamalga m.com/hairtestbo ok.html

>

>

>

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Deepa.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> The Vit A IS from beta-carotene.....is this not right ?....kindly comment.

My son's body did not convert carotenes into vitamin A until I corrected his

thyroid functioning.

> He has difficulty in focusing.

> Shows anxiety and restlessness.

> Cannot seem to tolerate hunger.

> Unpredictable Mood swings.

> Quickly frustrated and angry.

> Occassional giggling without reason.

> Lot of humming to himself....goes 'mmmm' for long stretches of time.

Most of these meant yeast overgrowth at my house.

> Almost completely non-verbal.

For my son, he needed anti-fungals, anti-virals, and B12/folic to cause speech.

> Low muscle tone and difficulty with fine motor activities.

Carnitine, creatine, and B12.

> Sensitive to noise and touch....doesn't like loud noises and rough textures.

This was mostly yeast here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

& Dana,

 

Thank you for your responses.

 

Since he was on Diflucan on Nystatin, I didn't look at the yeast protocol which

is Caprylic/GSE, OoO & Biotin. I probably need to up it some.

 

We didn't see much change in beaviour after the Rx for yeast....other than

irritability and food cravings.....does it mean that it was not sufficient ?

 

Regards.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Andy & others please.....questions before starting

chelation......

Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 10:33 AM

 

> The Vit A IS from beta-carotene. ....is this not right ?....kindly comment.

My son's body did not convert carotenes into vitamin A until I corrected his

thyroid functioning.

> He has difficulty in focusing.

> Shows anxiety and restlessness.

> Cannot seem to tolerate hunger.

> Unpredictable Mood swings.

> Quickly frustrated and angry.

> Occassional giggling without reason.

> Lot of humming to himself....goes 'mmmm' for long stretches of time.

Most of these meant yeast overgrowth at my house.

> Almost completely non-verbal.

For my son, he needed anti-fungals, anti-virals, and B12/folic to cause speech.

> Low muscle tone and difficulty with fine motor activities.

Carnitine, creatine, and B12.

> Sensitive to noise and touch....doesn' t like loud noises and rough textures.

This was mostly yeast here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> & Dana,

> Thank you for your responses.

> Since he was on Diflucan on Nystatin, I didn't look at the yeast protocol

which is Caprylic/GSE, OoO & Biotin. I probably need to up it some.

> We didn't see much change in beaviour after the Rx for yeast....other than

irritability and food cravings.....does it mean that it was not sufficient ?

I would start by assuming that what you did in the past was not sufficient.

Dana

[Guest guest]

hi Dana,

How did you know your son's thyroid was not functioning?

How did you correct his thyroid functiong?

FA

________________________________

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 7:33:22 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Andy & others please.....questions before starting

chelation......

 

> The Vit A IS from beta-carotene. ....is this not right ?....kindly comment.

My son's body did not convert carotenes into vitamin A until I corrected his

thyroid functioning.

> He has difficulty in focusing.

> Shows anxiety and restlessness.

> Cannot seem to tolerate hunger.

> Unpredictable Mood swings.

> Quickly frustrated and angry.

> Occassional giggling without reason.

> Lot of humming to himself....goes 'mmmm' for long stretches of time.

Most of these meant yeast overgrowth at my house.

> Almost completely non-verbal.

For my son, he needed anti-fungals, anti-virals, and B12/folic to cause speech.

> Low muscle tone and difficulty with fine motor activities.

Carnitine, creatine, and B12.

> Sensitive to noise and touch....doesn' t like loud noises and rough textures.

This was mostly yeast here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> hi Dana,

> How did you know your son's thyroid was not functioning?

The body requires vitamin C, zinc, and thyroid hormone to properly convert

carotenes. Carotene foods caused nasty problems for my son. I was already

giving vitamin C and zinc. When I added thyroid support supplements, he was

able to eat carotene foods without problems.

> How did you correct his thyroid functiong?

Selenium, tyrosine, and iodine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I have just ordered the hair elements test from DirectLabs......they charged

$60.....an extra 20% off the months sale value when I mentioned this group.

 

A copy of AI is on its way.

 

Meanwhile, I received the reports of another blood test.

 

One of the findings say : A single copy of A1298C mutation was identified.

Results for C677T mutation were negative.

Also TSH  0.982 uIU/mL

 

And Sedimentation Rate-Westergren 28 mm/hr.

 

Presence of Rubeola(1.52)  and Mumps(4.87) antibodies on the higher side.

 

Elevated IgG, Subclass 4 and IgG, Qn Serum.

 

We meet the doctor again in May. Will someone please explain what these mean ?

 

All inputs gratefully appreciated.

Thanks and regards.

 

Deepa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information

> > and courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is

> > non-verbal. We have recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed

> > a course of Diflucan and Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12

> > shots next.

> >

> > His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the

> > following

> >

> This is of no utility whatsoever.

>

> The test of utility is the DDI Hair Elements test.

>

> Of even greater utility would be a regular lab's RBC blood test and a

> " chem-20 " , TSH, free T4, free T3, homocysteine.

>

> And a description of SYMPTOMS.

>

> > Lead 0.033 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.048)

> > Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

> > Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

> > Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

> >

> > Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

> > Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

> > Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

> > Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

> > Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

> > Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

> >

> > Can someone please throw more light on this ?

> > I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to

> > do a hair analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

> >

> No. Need is a strong word. You can start chelation based on symptoms and

> evaluate its utility based on whether there is any reaction to it. The

> hair test is very useful for other things--thyroid, adrenals, etc...

>

> >

> > I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do

> > transdermal. But I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make

> > sure that his current mineral levels are alright

> >

> Andy Cutler _used_ to say that copper needed to be reduced if it was a

> problem, but he has since changed his mind. As long as you are

> supplementing _during_ chelation, things are OK to start. (General

> comment, not based on the test result above).

>

> > to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a 3 day on/

> > 4 day off schedule ?

> >

> > His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

> > beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate ,

> > moderate need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

> >

> Do NOT supplement copper or iron until you get the result of the hair

> test.

>

> >

> > He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis.

> > Also high neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative

> stress.

> >

> > He is currently taking the following supplements

> >

> > Biotin - 15mg X 3

> > Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

> > Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

> > Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

> >

> > Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

> >

> > Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

> > CoQ10 - 100 mg

> > Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6

> > - 110 mg, Omega 9 - 120 mg )

> >

> > DMG 125mg

> > DMAE 351 mg X 2

> > MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

> >

> > Taurine 500 mg

> > Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

> > Turmeric 450 mg

> > Chlorella 500 mg

> >

> DISCONTINUE CHLORELLA IMMEDIATELY! Chlorella is a known mercury

> disturber. It causes redistribution of metals to the organs and brain,

> and thus possible irreversible damage.

>

> > Folic Acid 5mg

> >

> > Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

> > Vit E 200 IU

> > Vit A 10000 IU

> >

> >From retinol, not carotenes, yes?

>

> > Vit D3 1000 IU

> > Vit B Complex(B50)

> >

> > Zinc 65mg

> > Selenium 100mcg

> > Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg     

> >

> More Mg is always a good thing. See Amalgam Illness.

>

> >

> >

> > I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read

> > discussions about an older child taking longer to respond and I want

> > to get going as soon as I can.

> > Please help.

> >

> Please read BOTH Andy Cutler's books cover to cover. There are very very

> useful here.

>

> http://www.noamalga m.com

> http://www.noamalga m.com/hairtestbo ok.html

>

>

>

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Deepa.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just ordered for the whole family. Great deal.

TJ

________________________________

From: Viswadeepa Das <viswa_das@...>

Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 8:18:42 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Andy & others please.....questions before starting

chelation......

 

Hi,

 

I have just ordered the hair elements test from DirectLabs.. ....they charged

$60.....an extra 20% off the months sale value when I mentioned this group.

 

A copy of AI is on its way.

 

Meanwhile, I received the reports of another blood test.

 

One of the findings say : A single copy of A1298C mutation was identified.

Results for C677T mutation were negative.

Also TSH  0.982 uIU/mL

 

And Sedimentation Rate-Westergren 28 mm/hr.

 

Presence of Rubeola(1.52)  and Mumps(4.87) antibodies on the higher side.

 

Elevated IgG, Subclass 4 and IgG, Qn Serum.

 

We meet the doctor again in May. Will someone please explain what these mean ?

 

All inputs gratefully appreciated.

Thanks and regards.

 

Deepa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I have been 'lurking' for a while and gathering priceless information

> > and courage to start. My 13 yr old was diagnosed autistic and is

> > non-verbal. We have recently seen a DAN! doctor and he was prescribed

> > a course of Diflucan and Nystatin. The doc wants us to start MB12

> > shots next.

> >

> > His Elemental Markers (RBCs) report from Genova Diagnostic shows the

> > following

> >

> This is of no utility whatsoever.

>

> The test of utility is the DDI Hair Elements test.

>

> Of even greater utility would be a regular lab's RBC blood test and a

> " chem-20 " , TSH, free T4, free T3, homocysteine.

>

> And a description of SYMPTOMS.

>

> > Lead 0.033 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.048)

> > Mercury 0.0055 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.0039)

> > Antimony 0.003 mcg/g (ref range <= 0.002)

> > Arsenic 0.038 mcg/g (ref range <=0.071)

> >

> > Copper 0.510 (ref 0.509-0.776)

> > Magnesium 47.6 (ref 30.1-56.5)

> > Manganese 0.016 (ref 0.007-0.038)

> > Potassium 2894 (ref 2220-3626)

> > Selenium 0.66 (ref 0.25-0.76)

> > Zinc 7.0 (7.8-13.1)

> >

> > Can someone please throw more light on this ?

> > I want to start AC chelation preferably in summer. Do I still need to

> > do a hair analysis to decide whether he needs chelation ?

> >

> No. Need is a strong word. You can start chelation based on symptoms and

> evaluate its utility based on whether there is any reaction to it. The

> hair test is very useful for other things--thyroid, adrenals, etc...

>

> >

> > I have discussed chelation with the doc and she suggests we do

> > transdermal. But I am interested in the AC protocol. I want to make

> > sure that his current mineral levels are alright

> >

> Andy Cutler _used_ to say that copper needed to be reduced if it was a

> problem, but he has since changed his mind. As long as you are

> supplementing _during_ chelation, things are OK to start. (General

> comment, not based on the test result above).

>

> > to start with 8mg of both ALA and DMSA (he is 98 lbs) and a 3 day on/

> > 4 day off schedule ?

> >

> > His NutrEval test report shows high need for Folic Acid, B6, Vit A, E,

> > beta-Carotine, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Zinc & alpha-ketoglutarate ,

> > moderate need for B12, Lipoic Acid, Manganese, Omega 3 & 6.

> >

> Do NOT supplement copper or iron until you get the result of the hair

> test.

>

> >

> > He shows moderately high yeast (Arabinose) and bacterial dysbiosis.

> > Also high neurotransmitter imbalance and moderately high oxidative

> stress.

> >

> > He is currently taking the following supplements

> >

> > Biotin - 15mg X 3

> > Oil of Oregano - 1500 mg X 2

> > Caprylic Acid - 2163 Mg X 2

> > Olive Leaf Extract - 150 mg X 2

> >

> > Custom Probiotics CP1 - 2 at bedtime

> >

> > Acetyle L-Carnitine - 500 mg

> > CoQ10 - 100 mg

> > Omega Oils - (Organic Flaxseed Oil 1000 mg, Omega 3 - 500 mg, Omega 6

> > - 110 mg, Omega 9 - 120 mg )

> >

> > DMG 125mg

> > DMAE 351 mg X 2

> > MB12 (chewable) 1000mcg

> >

> > Taurine 500 mg

> > Betaine Hydrochloride 600mg (with Pepsin, Bromelain, Papain)

> > Turmeric 450 mg

> > Chlorella 500 mg

> >

> DISCONTINUE CHLORELLA IMMEDIATELY! Chlorella is a known mercury

> disturber. It causes redistribution of metals to the organs and brain,

> and thus possible irreversible damage.

>

> > Folic Acid 5mg

> >

> > Vit C 1000 mg with bioflavonoids X 2

> > Vit E 200 IU

> > Vit A 10000 IU

> >

> >From retinol, not carotenes, yes?

>

> > Vit D3 1000 IU

> > Vit B Complex(B50)

> >

> > Zinc 65mg

> > Selenium 100mcg

> > Calcium 600mgMagnesium 250mg     

> >

> More Mg is always a good thing. See Amalgam Illness.

>

> >

> >

> > I request your comments and suggestions on the above. I have read

> > discussions about an older child taking longer to respond and I want

> > to get going as soon as I can.

> > Please help.

> >

> Please read BOTH Andy Cutler's books cover to cover. There are very very

> useful here.

>

> http://www.noamalga m.com

> http://www.noamalga m.com/hairtestbo ok.html

>

>

>

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Deepa.

> >

> >