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I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

I will be very thankful for your advice!

Elena

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I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

They told me it is more like rubber.

What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants are

about $5000 each.

TJ

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From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@...>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

 

I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

I will be very thankful for your advice!

Elena

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My son 8yo had root canal this past summer.The pediatric dentist assured me the

crown had no amalagam and was stainless steel.Is this correct?I am getting

worried after reading the posts b/c he is chelating.jake's mom

>

> I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> They told me it is more like rubber.

> What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants

are about $5000 each.

> TJ

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> ________________________________

> From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@...>

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> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

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>  

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

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Stainless is OK to chelate with.

TJ

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From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@...>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:12:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

My son 8yo had root canal this past summer.The pediatric dentist assured me the

crown had no amalagam and was stainless steel.Is this correct?I am getting

worried after reading the posts b/c he is chelating.jake' s mom

>

> I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> They told me it is more like rubber.

> What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants

are about $5000 each.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@.. .>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

>

>  

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

>

>

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Elena,

I had also read somewhere that root canals are not safe. Have never had one and

will never. What about calling around to different dentists in your area and

seeing if any do extractions. We get flyers in the mail from different dentists

offering this.

>

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

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From what I read, root canals are not safe not because of mercury. They say,

after the nerve and the blood vessels are extracted from the tooth, the

microscopic tubules in the tooth, as well as the rubber the dentist puts in, are

sure to harbor harmful bacteria. There is no way to sterilize the tubules, they

are too small and too numerous. While the tooth has blood vessels, the white

blood cells take care of the bacteria. Once the vessels are gone and the tooth

is dead, the bacteria live and breed there, infect the rubber, and one can

develop allergies to their toxins (I guess something like PANDAS). All that

sounds quite true to me.

Besides, the rubber they use is infused with salts of heavy metals, to make it

visible in the X-rays. Most sites mention these salts are salts of barium; one

site said it was mercury salts. (I do not know how reliable this info is, but

barium in my mouth does not sound good either).

I do not know if all this is 100% true, but if it is at least 70% true, I prefer

dentures to teeth with root canals (if it is not front teeth). Seems cheaper

too.

On the other hand, if you know this is untrue, please reassure me so that I

don't have an unnecessary extraction!

Thanks a lot in advance!

Elena

> >

> > I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> > They told me it is more like rubber.

> > What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants

are about $5000 each.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@ .>

> >

> > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> > Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

> >

> >  

> > I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

> >

> > So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses

to do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

> >

> > I will be very thankful for your advice!

> >

> > Elena

> >

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> >

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Man and to think I have 3 root canals and my dentist said I was due for one

more-eeek. Though with the rotten dental insurance and how expensive dentists

are we may all be toothless-ha. By the time I had my root canal it used up

almost all my yearly money. Crazy!!

I never knew about root canals so good to know. I have a mouth full of mercury

fillings. I would love to have it all removed and then I heard I would have to

have them take off the crowns and then replace those too.

I would love to be able to afford to just go in and fall asleep and have them do

my entire mouth and be all healthy in the end. :) Trish

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> > > > I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and

> > want to do chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> > > > They told me it is more like rubber.

> > > > What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth

> > is? Implants are about $5000 each.

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@ .>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

> > > >

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might

> > possess the precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root

> > canal. I found some info on root canals on the internet and was

> > horrified. It seems that an extraction is much safer in the long run.

> > The problem is, I am under the impression that regular dentists do not

> > do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the patient wants

> > the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics or

> > something.

> > > >

> > > > So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my

> > dentist refuses to do it? There are no biological dentist for about a

> > hundred miles around.

> > > >

> > > > I will be very thankful for your advice!

> > > >

> > > > Elena

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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To Tj,

I had a shoulder surgery in 2006 and I have 2 titanium screws in my rotator cuff

.. Is it OK to chelate?

Thanks for any advice.

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From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:18:27 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

Stainless is OK to chelate with.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@ .ca>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:12:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

My son 8yo had root canal this past summer.The pediatric dentist assured me the

crown had no amalagam and was stainless steel.Is this correct?I am getting

worried after reading the posts b/c he is chelating.jake' s mom

>

> I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> They told me it is more like rubber.

> What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants

are about $5000 each.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@.. .>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

>

>  

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I would think so, but I'm no expert. I was only repeating what Andy said about

the stainless. Maybe someone else could comment as well?

You might want to google the composition of Titanium and see if there are any

heavy metals.

TJ

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From: amalio angeles <am_fm_6265@...>

Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:10 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

To Tj,

I had a shoulder surgery in 2006 and I have 2 titanium screws in my rotator cuff

.. Is it OK to chelate?

Thanks for any advice.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:18:27 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

Stainless is OK to chelate with.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@ .ca>

Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:12:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

 

My son 8yo had root canal this past summer.The pediatric dentist assured me the

crown had no amalagam and was stainless steel.Is this correct?I am getting

worried after reading the posts b/c he is chelating.jake' s mom

>

> I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and want to do

chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> They told me it is more like rubber.

> What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is? Implants

are about $5000 each.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@.. .>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

>

>  

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Andy says titanium implants are OK to chelate with:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/195005.html

Titanium _IS_ a metal. There is no " composition " : it's all titanium. Not

to say that implants called " titanium implants " are 100% titanium, of

course (I think this is what TJ meant). I have found limited

references, but the alloys can contain Zirconium, Aluminium, Vanadium,

Chromium, Copper, Nickel and Molybdenum. Not all are appropriate for

surgical implants. _Most_ surgical implants are in fact 100% titanium.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=UkVNHFpGhaoC & pg=PA206 & lpg=PA206 & dq=titanium+impl\

ant+alloy+composition & source=bl & ots=xHHpmjbGhX & sig=2cpJoSrKZILlUxMO3EAvgw-GuTs & h\

l=en & ei=5fxfS4a6LY3QsgOj0ZjBCw & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=6 & ved=0CCQQ6\

AEwBQ#v=onepage & q=titanium%20implant%20alloy%20composition & f=false

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4040129.html

TJ Werth wrote:

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>

> I would think so, but I'm no expert. I was only repeating what Andy

> said about the stainless. Maybe someone else could comment as well?

> You might want to google the composition of Titanium and see if there

> are any heavy metals.

> TJ

>

> ________________________________

> From: amalio angeles <am_fm_6265@...

> <mailto:am_fm_6265%40>>

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> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:10 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

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> To Tj,

> I had a shoulder surgery in 2006 and I have 2 titanium screws in my

> rotator cuff . Is it OK to chelate?

>

> Thanks for any advice.

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:18:27 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

>

>

> Stainless is OK to chelate with.

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@ .ca>

>

> Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 3:12:32 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: OT: root canal

>

>

> My son 8yo had root canal this past summer.The pediatric dentist

> assured me the crown had no amalagam and was stainless steel.Is this

> correct?I am getting worried after reading the posts b/c he is

> chelating.jake' s mom

>

>

> >

> > I did some research on root canals as well because I have two and

> want to do chelation myself someday. The material is not amalgam.

> > They told me it is more like rubber.

> > What were you planning on putting in the place where your tooth is?

> Implants are about $5000 each.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: elena4439332 <eboudovs@.. .>

> >

> > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 12:30:23 PM

> > Subject: [ ] OT: root canal

> >

> > Â

> > I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might

> possess the precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root

> canal. I found some info on root canals on the internet and was

> horrified. It seems that an extraction is much safer in the long run.

> The problem is, I am under the impression that regular dentists do not

> do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the patient wants

> the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics or

> something.

> >

> > So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist

> refuses to do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred

> miles around.

> >

> > I will be very thankful for your advice!

> >

> > Elena

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Trying to catch up on the posts here after 3 days with no internet. So don't

know if this has been mentioned or not, but I've been reading " Cancer Free " by

(his site is beating-cancer-gently). He says there's an extremely

strong correlation between root canals and cancer (breast, at least). Has to do

with bacteria, I think.

>

> I have a question which is not quite on the topic, but you might possess the

precious knowledge.. OK, my dentist says I need a root canal. I found some info

on root canals on the internet and was horrified. It seems that an extraction is

much safer in the long run. The problem is, I am under the impression that

regular dentists do not do extractions if they can do a root canal, even if the

patient wants the tooth out. I heard this is against their professional ethics

or something.

>

> So the question is: how can I get the tooth extracted if my dentist refuses to

do it? There are no biological dentist for about a hundred miles around.

>

> I will be very thankful for your advice!

>

> Elena

>

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