Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Hi Tess, I have had such a warm welcom from everyone so far. I have an MRI scheduled for April 10 for my back pain. My xrays showed some space narrowing from L3 to L5 area. It also showed spurs all over spine. Dr. says this is probably from osteo along with RA. My pain travels down through my right hip all the way down to my right foot. My leg also gets numb and tingly. This is what scares me. But it hurts too bad to let it go any longer. Mornings are the worst. They are also when my son needs me the most, to get him together for school. Vicoden and hot shower usually help me to get moving, but thats usually after he leaves. Then I usually read the paper and fall asleep. Then I am somewhat ok when he comes home. Right now we're just trying to find a routine that works for both of us. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Carol we've been discussing Prolotherapy quite a bit, lately. See recent posts and look at the website www.prolotherapy.com. It is very effective for any joint trouble including herniated discs. It usually helps with pain right away because it stimulates the healing of the damaged area right away. Corny herniated disc I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a herniated disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. * What helped with the pain? * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? Thanks in advance. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Fluids, inversion, mag pulsing. herniated disc > I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a herniated > disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad > pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. > * What helped with the pain? > * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? > Thanks in advance. > > Carol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Dear Carol, Herniated discs can be healed perfectly by applying ozone transdermally, in daily half hour sessions, with a funnel over the area. It take 2 - 3 months for complete healing. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----- ----Original Message Follows---- From: Carol <carol@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: herniated disc Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:05:29 -0700 I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a herniated disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. * What helped with the pain? * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? Thanks in advance. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Carol, I would add FIR to the ozone. A double-whammy guaranteed " mo better! " A $98 FIR lamp from http://www.ycyhealth.com/tdp_index.shtml will relieve the pain temporarily in minutes, permanently in days, if the afflicted person will continue with 1 hr daily treatments. But, it will heal MUCH faster in conjunction with ozone! The FIR alone will take A LOT longer to correct the underlying problem, and maybe not at all. Do it with ozone, which WILL correct the underlying problem!!! FIR will give fast relief, but the ozone is magic! And, drink water. Cellular dehydration is the originating cause of disc problems, according to Dr.Batmanghelidj. Discs are held in place by sacs analagous to a water hose. When the water pressure is high, they hold the discs in place. Firm like a water hose in the Sun. When dehydrated, the sacs go limp, allowing the discs to move around, and herneate. REad Your Body's Many Cries For Water, by Dr. Batman to understand this. jim > Dear Carol, > > Herniated discs can be healed perfectly by applying ozone > transdermally, in daily half hour sessions, with a funnel over the area. > > It take 2 - 3 months for complete healing. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Carol <carol@j...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: herniated disc > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:05:29 -0700 > > I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a herniated > disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad > pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. > * What helped with the pain? > * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? > Thanks in advance. > > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Anyone know if lamps from http://www.lightforcetherapy.com/products.cfm are good FIR? herniated disc > > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:05:29 -0700 > > > > I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a > herniated > > disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad > > pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. > > * What helped with the pain? > > * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Carol > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 4 part message: To Corny - Thanks for the suggestion on the prolotherapy. I noticed some of the discussions about it, and have read some of the recent postings. I checked the website and found their list of practitioners who do it. So I will look into it further. There are people in this area. Thanks for the lead. To McCourt - Thanks for your note (copied here). Could you clear something up? I think I've got the " fluids " idea down. Jim Lambert also mentioned the book about water. I actually have that book, and will strongly suggest the " drinking more water " idea. I do not know exactly what you mean by " inversion " , nor " mag pulsing " . I think that inversion is hanging (traction) using the upside-down boots? Mag pulsing? Is that using magnets of some type? I am not really familiar with it. Do you know of someone using magnets for healing their herniated disc? To Saul - Thanks for the idea on ozone. I need to contact you more about that. I guess I always equated the use of ozone more with " clean up " of fungus, bacteria, virus. But, I guess you are saying that you know of people who have healed their disc with ozone? To Jim Lambert - Thanks for the reminder about the " water " book. I have that Dr. Batman book, and am going to get it off the bookshelf and strongly suggest increasing drinking more water. I will also check into the FIR thing, and the website you mentioned. Jim - it sounds like you might also know of people helped with the ozone and herniated discs? Has this happened to you, or someone you know? Just interested in the details of people's experience with herniated discs getting better with ozone. I have to confess of being surprised, in that, I never thought of ozone in that way. So many questions..... Carol >X-Apparently-oxyplus ><oxyplus >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express >5.50.4522.1200 >From: " McCourt, Ph.D. " <drjem@...> >Delivered-mailing list oxyplus >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribe > >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:55:23 -0700 >Subject: Re: herniated disc > >Fluids, inversion, mag pulsing. > > herniated disc > > > > I am wondering if anyone has any experience with dealing with a herniated > > disc in the cervical area. I am writing for someone who is in very bad > > pain in the last 2 days with a newly diagnosed herniated disc. > > * What helped with the pain? > > * What treatments helped with healing the cervical disc area? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Looks like you have discovered the meaning of life: " Answer all the questions correctly before the test is over " . WRT fluids - Jim Lambert gave the perfect answer. WRT mag pulsing - Go to sotainstruments.com and check out their Mag Pulser. WRT inversion - Do Google search for Hang-Ups inversion cots. I like them better with the boots. You can rock this unit back and forth with a few ounces effort or even your breath change. It can be used instead of a megabuck traction machine for many applications. I think yours is such. WRT permanent magnets - provide a few hours relief by drawing body's healing from other areas to the target area. Further use seems debilitating. Fwd: Re: herniated disc > 4 part message: > > To Corny - Thanks for the suggestion on the prolotherapy. I noticed some > of the discussions about it, and have read some of the recent postings. I > checked the website and found their list of practitioners who do it. So I > will look into it further. There are people in this area. Thanks for the > lead. > > To McCourt - Thanks for your note (copied here). Could you clear > something up? I think I've got the " fluids " idea down. Jim Lambert also > mentioned the book about water. I actually have that book, and will > strongly suggest the " drinking more water " idea. I do not know exactly > what you mean by " inversion " , nor " mag pulsing " . I think that inversion is > hanging (traction) using the upside-down boots? Mag pulsing? Is that using > magnets of some type? I am not really familiar with it. Do you know of > someone using magnets for healing their herniated disc? > > To Saul - Thanks for the idea on ozone. I need to contact you more about > that. I guess I always equated the use of ozone more with " clean up " of > fungus, bacteria, virus. But, I guess you are saying that you know of > people who have healed their disc with ozone? > > To Jim Lambert - Thanks for the reminder about the " water " book. I have > that Dr. Batman book, and am going to get it off the bookshelf and strongly > suggest increasing drinking more water. I will also check into the FIR > thing, and the website you mentioned. Jim - it sounds like you might also > know of people helped with the ozone and herniated discs? Has this > happened to you, or someone you know? Just interested in the details of > people's experience with herniated discs getting better with ozone. I have > to confess of being surprised, in that, I never thought of ozone in that way. > > So many questions..... > > Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Jim, I looked at that site and didn't find enough of an explanation of what the lamps are to make a guess. They have a variable frequency spectrum, tho, which is interesting if we knew what spectrum that was. Carol, I have had numerous friends with lower back problems, most of them involving disc issues. Some only used the FIR because they were lazy, and it is quick and simple. It is wonderful for quickly helping with pain, stiffness and swelling. However, the treatments, if used only on a remedial basis as opposed to continuing use, only last a couple of days to a week. The few that did the FIR and the ozone sauna visited me less often, even though they had the worst disc problems. None of them did it often enough or long enough to effect what I would consider a healing. But, judging by the before and after condition of my friends on the many different occasions, the ozone sauna effectively made the treatment last much longer. Seeing a lot of this over a two years, you get a good feel for what is working. Also, I saw these same friends almost every day both before and after their treatments so I was able to observe how well things worked. All of them worked in some form of construction and are in their early 40's to middle 50's. They all came to me by word of mouth from our mutual friends. They all became believers after a first experience, but folks just don't follow the advice of a lay person who offers the use of the equipment for free the way they do a doctor when insurance is paying the bill. So, my experience not very scientific. jim > Anyone know if lamps from > http://www.lightforcetherapy.com/products.cfm > are good FIR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Hello. My name is Laurie and I am 36 years old. I live in Southern California. This is the first time I have posted a message. The doctors think I have a herniated disc and I am in alot of pain. I cannot stand for more than 5 minutes without being in severe pain. I was on steroids for 11 days and it seemed to help some. Since the stopping of the steroids, I have declined and the pain has gotten worse. I am so depressed because I can't go anywhere or do anything. I am waiting for an MRI. I also have Rheumatoid Arthritis and have been dealing with that, the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Herniated Disc Has anyone tried the effect of the GZ on one of these???? Disc between L4 and L5 has bulged to one side, impinging on Femoral Nerve, enervating right leg - pain, muscle tone loss etc etc ..... Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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