Re: Metal Question...Boron

[Guest guest]

What kind of test did you do? Was it a challenge test?

You should do a test and apply Andy Cutler's counting rules.

More than likely your son is mercury toxic, which causes the mineral transport

in his body to go all out of whack.

Chelate with ALA and DMSA folowin the AC protocol and after you get enough

metals out, the normal mineral transport of the body will return and clear out

other metals like aluminum.

TJ

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From: jagassler <jilypil@...>

Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:48:04 PM

Subject: [ ] Metal Question...Boron

 

Our son has tested very high for the metal Boron. Our DAN mentioned that he

didn't know where he would get such a high level of that. Does anyone have any

experience with this type of metal, and know where he would've gotten it? We

live in Long Beach, Calif. and do not drink from well water, or anything else. I

don't even know what to use to chelate this... Thanks for the help. Jill

[Guest guest]

Here is the Wiki on Boron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron

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From: jagassler <jilypil@...>

Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:48:04 PM

Subject: [ ] Metal Question...Boron

 

Our son has tested very high for the metal Boron. Our DAN mentioned that he

didn't know where he would get such a high level of that. Does anyone have any

experience with this type of metal, and know where he would've gotten it? We

live in Long Beach, Calif. and do not drink from well water, or anything else. I

don't even know what to use to chelate this... Thanks for the help. Jill

[Guest guest]

Meant to say Hair Test below...

TJ

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From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 2:05:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Metal Question...Boron

 

What kind of test did you do? Was it a challenge test?

You should do a test and apply Andy Cutler's counting rules.

More than likely your son is mercury toxic, which causes the mineral transport

in his body to go all out of whack.

Chelate with ALA and DMSA folowin the AC protocol and after you get enough

metals out, the normal mineral transport of the body will return and clear out

other metals like aluminum.

TJ

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From: jagassler <jilypilmsn (DOT) com>

Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:48:04 PM

Subject: [ ] Metal Question...Boron

 

Our son has tested very high for the metal Boron. Our DAN mentioned that he

didn't know where he would get such a high level of that. Does anyone have any

experience with this type of metal, and know where he would've gotten it? We

live in Long Beach, Calif. and do not drink from well water, or anything else. I

don't even know what to use to chelate this... Thanks for the help. Jill

[Guest guest]

" The largest deposits of borax are found in California, the southwestern United

States, Chile and Tibet. "

and other helpful info is found here:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5104186_borax-powder.html

Wow, good luck, great find!

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> Our son has tested very high for the metal Boron. Our DAN mentioned that he

didn't know where he would get such a high level of that. Does anyone have any

experience with this type of metal, and know where he would've gotten it? We

live in Long Beach, Calif. and do not drink from well water, or anything else. I

don't even know what to use to chelate this... Thanks for the help. Jill

>

[Guest guest]

Our DAN did the hair test... He did have other metals also (I'll have to look at

the results again) and I know he wanted to chelate. We are due for a follow up

appointment soon. Am still trying to figure out how that metal would get into

his body (food, water, etc.)Thanks to all for the info! Jill

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> What kind of test did you do? Was it a challenge test?

> You should do a test and apply Andy Cutler's counting rules.

> More than likely your son is mercury toxic, which causes the mineral transport

in his body to go all out of whack.

> Chelate with ALA and DMSA folowin the AC protocol and after you get enough

metals out, the normal mineral transport of the body will return and clear out

other metals like aluminum.

> TJ

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> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:48:04 PM

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> Our son has tested very high for the metal Boron. Our DAN mentioned that he

didn't know where he would get such a high level of that. Does anyone have any

experience with this type of metal, and know where he would've gotten it? We

live in Long Beach, Calif. and do not drink from well water, or anything else. I

don't even know what to use to chelate this... Thanks for the help. Jill

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[Guest guest]

Hi all.

Boron is not a metal. It is classified as a metalloid :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalloid

As an element it can form many different kinds of complexes, and many of

the Boron-based molecules are very reactive (unstable).

Now, the most stable form of (relatively) free Boron in the aqueous

portions of the body will probably be Boric Acid B(OH)3 and a small

fraction of this acid will react with water to form the tetrahedral

Borate anion B(OH)4(-) and the acid protons, H(+).

Incidentally, this solution behaviour is similar to that of the light

metal Aluminium, which forms Al(OH)4(-) when the pH is raised slighly

above 7.

Boron, under certain conditions (such as high pH) is therefore a

suitable analogue for the study of Aluminium in aqueous solution.

In the body, I think these borates would be the only stable boron

species.

I do not know if any biological pathways specifically process boron or

compounds containing it.

Various forms of borate are used as wood preservatives or fungicides

such as disodium octaborate tetrahydrate (from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borate).

Boron does not appear to accumulate in fish or other organisms in water

- http://www.npi.gov.au/substances/boron/environmental.html

I am not familiar with any chemistry that involves both mercury and

boron, so I cannot immediately see a direct link between a raised boron

level and mercury toxicity, but as TJ said, if the mercury toxicity is

high, then the detox pathways may not adequately remove the born (if the

body considers it to be toxic).

Best Regards

n

[Guest guest]

Wow!! Amazing info...Thank you very much! I believe I understand now..I assume

that when the mercury is removed from his body, his levels should (hopefully) go

down. Thanks much!! Jill

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> Hi all.

> Boron is not a metal. It is classified as a metalloid :

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalloid

>

> As an element it can form many different kinds of complexes, and many of

> the Boron-based molecules are very reactive (unstable).

>

> Now, the most stable form of (relatively) free Boron in the aqueous

> portions of the body will probably be Boric Acid B(OH)3 and a small

> fraction of this acid will react with water to form the tetrahedral

> Borate anion B(OH)4(-) and the acid protons, H(+).

>

> Incidentally, this solution behaviour is similar to that of the light

> metal Aluminium, which forms Al(OH)4(-) when the pH is raised slighly

> above 7.

> Boron, under certain conditions (such as high pH) is therefore a

> suitable analogue for the study of Aluminium in aqueous solution.

>

> In the body, I think these borates would be the only stable boron

> species.

> I do not know if any biological pathways specifically process boron or

> compounds containing it.

>

> Various forms of borate are used as wood preservatives or fungicides

> such as disodium octaborate tetrahydrate (from

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borate).

>

> Boron does not appear to accumulate in fish or other organisms in water

> - http://www.npi.gov.au/substances/boron/environmental.html

>

> I am not familiar with any chemistry that involves both mercury and

> boron, so I cannot immediately see a direct link between a raised boron

> level and mercury toxicity, but as TJ said, if the mercury toxicity is

> high, then the detox pathways may not adequately remove the born (if the

> body considers it to be toxic).

>

> Best Regards

> n

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