Guest guest Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Chelating metals does not always allow a child to consime gluten or casein in any form. I have children that do not have any toxic levels of metals and they still cannot consume casein (goat or cow, either one; raw or pasteurized, either one) or gluten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I'm curious how you determined they have no toxic levels of metals. I'm GF vegan and plan to stay that way even if/when I decide I'm done chelating, so just curious. S S Re: A thought on milk and gluten Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:16 pm (PDT) Chelating metals does not always allow a child to consime gluten or casein in any form. I have children that do not have any toxic levels of metals and they still cannot consume casein (goat or cow, either one; raw or pasteurized, either one) or gluten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 One of my kids had a blood test for all the heavy metals. When milk is removed, her allergic shiners are gone. When milk is consumed, they reappear. When consuming milk, she pulls out all of her eyelashes. When it is removed, the behavior stops. There are many other changes as well, in behavior. Elimination diets are the best way to determine allergies. Her intradermal allergy tests all showed negative (for milk allergy), but the astonishing results speak for themselves. She has never been vaccinated and has no metal fillings. We use filtered water. Her sources of environmental exposure through foods and air are limited. Milk, raw or not, is contraindicated for my family. I should have known this was in my genes from my older daughter, (Double dose of like genes; so, I know we have a severe milk allergy in my family.) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: agirlnamedsuess21 > > ===>Curious, what testing did you do that determine they do not have any toxic levels of metals? I'm beginning to think that the only kids without toxic levels of metals are those kids who have been chelated. > > > > > > Chelating metals does not always allow a child to consime gluten or casein in any form. > I have children that do not have any toxic levels of metals and they still cannot consume casein (goat or cow, either one; raw or pasteurized, either one) or gluten. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Hi , Blood tests are quite useless for chronic toxic metal issues. Lead quickly goes into bone and brain and mercury into various organs including brain. Any lead is too much and most doctors disregard any lead under 10. Blood tests will only show current exposure. Consider doing a DDI hair elements test and applying counting rules. S S Re: A thought on milk and gluten Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 Sun Jul 4, 2010 3:31 pm (PDT) One of my kids had a blood test for all the heavy metals. When milk is removed, her allergic shiners are gone. When milk is consumed, they reappear. When consuming milk, she pulls out all of her eyelashes. When it is removed, the behavior stops. There are many other changes as well, in behavior. Elimination diets are the best way to determine allergies. Her intradermal allergy tests all showed negative (for milk allergy), but the astonishing results speak for themselves. She has never been vaccinated and has no metal fillings. We use filtered water. Her sources of environmental exposure through foods and air are limited. Milk, raw or not, is contraindicated for my family. I should have known this was in my genes from my older daughter, (Double dose of like genes; so, I know we have a severe milk allergy in my family.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Our allergist told us that the allergy tests are only 50% accurate. You do not always test positive. And if one has two (or more) cell lines in their body, how do you know which cell line you are testing? (Answer: You don't.) I already asked that question. Given all that information, it is common knowledge in genetics that many people have two cell lines and do not even know it. > > Real gluten and real casein allergies are out there . those people usually > test positive on allergy testing . it is rare. BUT TRUE > > > > From: [mailto: ] > On Behalf Of > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:51 AM > > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: A thought on milk and gluten > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: agirlnamedsuess21 > > ===>Curious, what testing did you do that determine they do not have any > toxic levels of metals? I'm beginning to think that the only kids without > toxic levels of metals are those kids who have been chelated. > > > > Chelating metals does not always allow a child to consime gluten or casein > in any form. > I have children that do not have any toxic levels of metals and they still > cannot consume casein (goat or cow, either one; raw or pasteurized, either > one) or gluten. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Hi , I would love to be able to do that on all 7 of us (even one of us), but I just cannot afford that right now. I sat and pondered about the ALA issue. No matter when ALA is used, it can transport in or out of the brain; it would not be necessary to use DMSA first, because if it is already in the brain, then no help there. If it isn't and it gets there from ALA, then that is what ALA is for. I tried to figure out the logic between using DMSA/ALA versus just ALA and I just could not find any. I have not found it yet locally, but as soon as I do, I am going to start ALA. Because i do not give anything to my children that I would not do, I will be the first guinea. Then if I see a difference (and I KNOW I have mercury and lead), then my son will be next followed by my daughters. > > Hi , > Blood tests are quite useless for chronic toxic metal issues. Lead quickly goes into bone and brain and mercury into various organs including brain. Any lead is too much and most doctors disregard any lead under 10. Blood tests will only show current exposure. Consider doing a DDI hair elements test and applying counting rules. > S S > > Re: A thought on milk and gluten > Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 > Sun Jul 4, 2010 3:31 pm (PDT) > > > > One of my kids had a blood test for all the heavy metals. > When milk is removed, her allergic shiners are gone. When milk is consumed, they reappear. When consuming milk, she pulls out all of her eyelashes. When it is removed, the behavior stops. There are many other changes as well, in behavior. > Elimination diets are the best way to determine allergies. > Her intradermal allergy tests all showed negative (for milk allergy), but the astonishing results speak for themselves. > She has never been vaccinated and has no metal fillings. We use filtered water. Her sources of environmental exposure through foods and air are limited. > Milk, raw or not, is contraindicated for my family. I should have known this was in my genes from my older daughter, (Double dose of like genes; so, I know we have a severe milk allergy in my family.) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 ? I have FOUR kids. I cannot afford that, especially now, since my dependable transportation just became undependable. > > > > Hi , > > Blood tests are quite useless for chronic toxic metal issues. Lead quickly goes into bone and brain and mercury into various organs including brain. Any lead is too much and most doctors disregard any lead under 10. Blood tests will only show current exposure. Consider doing a DDI hair elements test and applying counting rules. > > S S > > > > Re: A thought on milk and gluten > > Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@ agirlnamedsuess21 > > Sun Jul 4, 2010 3:31 pm (PDT) > > > > > > > > One of my kids had a blood test for all the heavy metals. > > When milk is removed, her allergic shiners are gone. When milk is consumed, they reappear. When consuming milk, she pulls out all of her eyelashes. When it is removed, the behavior stops. There are many other changes as well, in behavior. > > Elimination diets are the best way to determine allergies. > > Her intradermal allergy tests all showed negative (for milk allergy), but the astonishing results speak for themselves. > > She has never been vaccinated and has no metal fillings. We use filtered water. Her sources of environmental exposure through foods and air are limited. > > Milk, raw or not, is contraindicated for my family. I should have known this was in my genes from my older daughter, (Double dose of like genes; so, I know we have a severe milk allergy in my family.) > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Only one got blood tested (and that was an act of congress with the old pediatrican, who is still the current, but we do not see him). We are in search of a pediatrican in Gainesville, GA. Anyone know one? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: agirlnamedsuess21 > > > > ===>Curious, what testing did you do that determine they do not have any toxic levels of metals? I'm beginning to think that the only kids without toxic levels of metals are those kids who have been chelated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chelating metals does not always allow a child to consime gluten or casein in any form. > > I have children that do not have any toxic levels of metals and they still cannot consume casein (goat or cow, either one; raw or pasteurized, either one) or gluten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I presume none of you have ANY mercury amalgam dental fillings? Be sure to do Cutler protocol if you do chelate. S S Re: A thought on milk and gluten Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 Mon Jul 5, 2010 7:41 am (PDT) Hi , I would love to be able to do that on all 7 of us (even one of us), but I just cannot afford that right now. I sat and pondered about the ALA issue. No matter when ALA is used, it can transport in or out of the brain; it would not be necessary to use DMSA first, because if it is already in the brain, then no help there. If it isn't and it gets there from ALA, then that is what ALA is for. I tried to figure out the logic between using DMSA/ALA versus just ALA and I just could not find any. I have not found it yet locally, but as soon as I do, I am going to start ALA. Because i do not give anything to my children that I would not do, I will be the first guinea. Then if I see a difference (and I KNOW I have mercury and lead), then my son will be next followed by my daughters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 My husband and I both. *I have two, 30 or more years old* He won't chelate though. He could care less. > > I presume none of you have ANY mercury amalgam dental fillings? Be sure to do Cutler protocol if you do chelate. > S S > > Re: A thought on milk and gluten > Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 > Mon Jul 5, 2010 7:41 am (PDT) > > Hi , I would love to be able to do that on all 7 of us (even one of us), but I just cannot afford that right now. > I sat and pondered about the ALA issue. No matter when ALA is used, it can transport in or out of the brain; it would not be necessary to use DMSA first, because if it is already in the brain, then no help there. If it isn't and it gets there from ALA, then that is what ALA is for. I tried to figure out the logic between using DMSA/ALA versus just ALA and I just could not find any. > I have not found it yet locally, but as soon as I do, I am going to start ALA. Because i do not give anything to my children that I would not do, I will be the first guinea. > Then if I see a difference (and I KNOW I have mercury and lead), then my son will be next followed by my daughters. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 , It's incredibly dangerous to chelate with mercury amalgam dental fillings in place, doesn't matter how old they are. Even if you seem to feel ok now, it increases your risk of Alzheimer's, MS, etc in the future. Please stop until you have them safely removed according to proper protocol. S S Re: A thought on milk and gluten Posted by: " agirlnamedsuess21 " agirlnamedsuess@... agirlnamedsuess21 Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:55 am (PDT) My husband and I both. *I have two, 30 or more years old* He won't chelate though. He could care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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