Re: finally mustered the COURAGE to chelate my daughter - some advice needed please

[Guest guest]

Lupe, I don't know if you're already involved in the below group, started by a

friend in Chile. I don't think they do AC per se, but it might be helpful to

you.

Take care, olivia

http://es./group/bioautismo/

>

> hi all,

> I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the courage

to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

> so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

> - my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5 mg

DMSA ?

> - anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

> - basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok with

a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has them

all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

> - is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night ?

I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under control

> - I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need any

others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I have

high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country, where

we have no one

> I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the encouragement

that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are all scared to

death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will be with us.

> Lupe

>

[Guest guest]

Lupe,

No courage needed to chelate; just patience. I was there myself, 5 years ago,

and quickly realized how little courage was necessary.

Starting with 5 mgs DMSA is good for a child that size. I don't know where to

get it smaller than 25 mgs. 3-4 hours around the clock. You can do 4 hours at

night. I do 3.5 hours during the day and 4 at night.

I'm not sure what ACE is; do you mean vitamins A, C and E? Minerals are good.

A multi without copper or iron is pretty standard. Vitamin D is nice. Keep

them all with chelating. No need to keep minerals away from the DMSA.

Personally, I did not find the Hair Analysis book that helpful (sorry, Andy).

It might be good for your MD, though, since it is full of case history examples.

Amalgam Illness covers the bases well. Too many blood tests are a waste of your

time and money. I do like to have a basic blood panel before chelation. I did

run a CBC/metabolic panel and zinc/coppper in the first few months after

chelation started to make sure DMSA was tolerated. After those tests were clean

then we fell back to annual blood tests. Even that might be too much since it

has only showed a problem once... and not related to chelation.

Look in to a yeast fighter or diet restrictions to help keep as much yeast

overgrowth at bay. We've never had huge problems with it but i know many battle

yeast constantly. I've use Grapefruit seed extract. Probiotics are a good

thing to add, too.

good luck to you.

Pam

>

> hi all,

> I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the courage

to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

> so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

> - my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5 mg

DMSA ?

> - anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

> - basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok with

a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has them

all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

> - is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night ?

I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under control

> - I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need any

others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I have

high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country, where

we have no one

> I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the encouragement

that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are all scared to

death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will be with us.

> Lupe

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lupe,

 

I just want to thank you for your post, I have been sitting on the fence with

chelation too. I am going to try and make that leap soon too.

I hope it goes smoothly for you! I don't have any suggestions, but i am sure you

know alot after reading posts here for a year and everyone is so helpful with

their experiences and advice.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

I was scared too. It will be fine. Start on the low side and go slow. We are

all here for ya!

Tammy

[ ] finally mustered the COURAGE to chelate my daughter

- some advice needed please

hi all,

I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the courage

to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

- my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5 mg

DMSA ?

- anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

- basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok with

a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has them

all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

- is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night ?

I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under control

- I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need any

others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I have

high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country, where

we have no one

I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the encouragement

that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are all scared to

death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will be with us.

Lupe

[Guest guest]

why on the fence, Heidi? Wondering if she really needs it or not wanting to

make things any worse? Fear of the unknown can be paralyzing! I remember that

first TD-DMSA dose... I stood by his bedside expecting him to stop breathing or

something. Why I was so relaxed about giving him vaccinations or antibiotics or

OTC medicines, and so scared about using a well studied, long approved chelator

is beyond me.

It gets a lot easier once you start.

Pam

>

> Hi Lupe,

>  

> I just want to thank you for your post, I have been sitting on the fence with

chelation too. I am going to try and make that leap soon too.

> I hope it goes smoothly for you! I don't have any suggestions, but i am sure

you know alot after reading posts here for a year and everyone is so helpful

with their experiences and advice.

> Heidi

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Olivia, thank you, yes I am ! they are wonderful. but they mostly have the same

problem I have, which is that latin america has very few professionals who can

help us.

I am lucky to speak english so that I can benefit from this group as well, as

you are all a lot more knowledgeable on chelation. you should see the faces of

the doctor's I've seen. a top neuro even said that anyone who offered to help me

chelate my daughter could be considered a criminal. talk about scary...

> >

> > hi all,

> > I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the

courage to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

> > so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

> > - my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5 mg

DMSA ?

> > - anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

> > - basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok

with a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has

them all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

> > - is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night ?

I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under control

> > - I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need any

others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I have

high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country, where

we have no one

> > I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the

encouragement that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are

all scared to death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will

be with us.

> > Lupe

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, thanks so much for the advice. it is really reassuring ! there is such a

myth that chelation might harm a child permanently. it's difficult to shake.

especially when doctors keep telling you you will regret doing it !

I took note of the tests to get sure we get them done before we start, to get a

baseline.

Lupe

> >

> > hi all,

> > I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the

courage to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

> > so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

> > - my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5 mg

DMSA ?

> > - anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

> > - basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok

with a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has

them all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

> > - is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night ?

I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under control

> > - I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need any

others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I have

high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country, where

we have no one

> > I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the

encouragement that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are

all scared to death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will

be with us.

> > Lupe

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

not only did I have to convince myself, I also had to convince others to let me

chelate my daughter. my family is very supportive but not very knowledgeable on

biomed and the fear factor is huge. this toxicologist's support was the real

deal for us, and I'm so grateful for it. so often since my DD's diagnosis have I

felt the hand of God moving things around for us. I have learnt to trust myself

and my instincts like never before, as I truly think it's God's way of letting

me know what to do.

all the very best for you too.

Lupe

>

> Hi Lupe,

>  

> I just want to thank you for your post, I have been sitting on the fence with

chelation too. I am going to try and make that leap soon too.

> I hope it goes smoothly for you! I don't have any suggestions, but i am sure

you know alot after reading posts here for a year and everyone is so helpful

with their experiences and advice.

> Heidi

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I'm personally scared of making things worse. there are horror stories out

there, and until you try if for yourself successfully, it's hard to know who to

believe !

the toxicologist we saw said something similar to what you just said. when she

explained how DMSA can be hard on some organs, she added.....and then, so can

ibuprofen.

meaning we are just scared of the unknown.

> >

> > Hi Lupe,

> >  

> > I just want to thank you for your post, I have been sitting on the fence

with chelation too. I am going to try and make that leap soon too.

> > I hope it goes smoothly for you! I don't have any suggestions, but i am sure

you know alot after reading posts here for a year and everyone is so helpful

with their experiences and advice.

> > Heidi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I can only imagine how difficult it is for you all. I lived in Argentina as a

teenager for a year and LOVE your country. But what difficulties it has faced!

I wish you the best - this group is wonderful, many knowledgeable people here.

Have you checked out the files section yet? Sorry I haven't checked out this

entire thread. There's a document on getting started that is very helpful. It

outlines only the basic supps you need for chelation support.

Buena suerte, Olivia

> > >

> > > hi all,

> > > I´ve been around this group for about a year, but yet hadn´t found the

courage to start the chelation process. yesterday I met with a toxicologist in

Argentina, where I'm from, who was the first dr here that ever said to me " I

can't put this in writing, but if she were my daughter, I'd chelate her too " .

she can't formally do this with us, but has agreed to run all the tests to

ensure she's in good health during the process. this is all I was asking for.

> > > so now we will be starting DMSA, AC protocol. here are some questions:

> > > - my daughter is 3 1/2, 13 kg (30 pounds aprox). should I start with 4/5

mg DMSA ?

> > > - anyone know where I can get DMSA at lower doses / without medical

prescription ?

> > > - basic supps to go with chelations are ACE and minerals, right ? am I ok

with a multi that contains them ? I have kirkmans childrens multi and it has

them all. my daugher is already on anti fungals, milk thistle, l carnitine, l

taurine, mag, calcium, biotin, D3. should I keep all of these as well ?

> > > - is dosing every 4 hs all the time, or like ALA, 3 during day, 4 at night

? I´m planning on adding ALA later on, after we have the body metals under

control

> > > - I need to buy Andy´s books. am I ok with No amalgam only, or do I need

any others ? I will get a copy for me and another for this toxicologist, who I

have high hopes for in her role in helping autistic children in this country,

where we have no one

> > > I would not have gotten to this point if it weren't for all the

encouragement that I read from you daily. thanks so much for being here. we are

all scared to death to harm my little one, and I just pray to God that he will

be with us.

> > > Lupe

> > >

> >

>