Guest guest Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 You could also try horsetail supplments or tea for the silicon which should help with the aluminum. > > Hi Sandy, > Comments interspersed. > LInda S S > > Chelation IV vs Oral > Posted by: " sandy " sandy@... pickleandpopcorn > Thu Jul 8, 2010 3:44 am (PDT) > > > > Hello everyone, > We are ready to start chelating. Our PA is open to different kinds of chelation. She can do EDTA IV every two weeks. > > *EDTA is contraindicated for mercury toxic folks. IV is contraindicated in general, every two weeks is contraindicated because it doesn't take half-life into account. > > (She said this would help get aluminum, which we know is a problem for us). Or she said we could do oral DMSA, 3days on, 4 days off. With both of these, she said we could add the ALA later after we know she is tolerating it. She also said there is an order to the way the metals come out. > > *Go with the oral but make sure to use appropriate dosing (1/8-1/2 mg/lb) and schedule every 4 hrs day and night for DMSA, every 3 day and night for ALA, every 3 for both together. > > I am afraid if I give the DMSA, it won't pull anything because of all the Aluminum. I would appreciate any info you can give me. > > *Have you identified and reduced/ removed sources of exposure? www.danasview.net/metals > > My daughter is 14 and does well. She is a yeasty kid, so I am concerned about the oral chelation making it worse. > > *Moving mercury increases yeast, regardless of route. > > Also, should I do the hair test that Andy recommends before I start? > > *That would help you have a baseline and know what you're dealing with. Make sure to apply the counting rules. > > Thanks, > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 My advice is to stay away from IV chelation. The long-term results are unpredictable. Read the files here to learn how to chelate safely. Aluminum won't interfere with DMSA's effectiveness. Perhaps you can use magnesium malate form of magnesium which some say helps with aluminum. It is a myth that oral chelation will aggravate yeast more than others. Use yeast fighters to deal with it. IV chelation can aggravate yeast just as much by redistributing metals to the gut. And if mercury is an issue for your daughter, EDTA is contraindicated. Jo > > Hello everyone, > We are ready to start chelating. Our PA is open to different kinds of chelation. She can do EDTA IV every two weeks. (She said this would help get aluminum, which we know is a problem for us). Or she said we could do oral DMSA, 3days on, 4 days off. With both of these, she said we could add the ALA later after we know she is tolerating it. She also said there is an order to the way the metals come out. I am afraid if I give the DMSA, it won't pull anything because of all the Aluminum. I would appreciate any info you can give me. > > My daughter is 14 and does well. She is a yeasty kid, so I am concerned about the oral chelation making it worse. > > Also, should I do the hair test that Andy recommends before I start? > > Thanks, > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Dear Jo, I am currently reading AI and I am so far one of the convinced ones that it is the way to go, however, I have seen kids recovered with CA EDTA who are doing really well, and I would appreciate very much if you or someone else who has it clear (in my understanding, danger of redistribution due to high dose-single dose chelators others than those recommended by Andy) I would like to know better what can be understood as long-term damage from CA-EDTA, like I said, I am eager to start chelating my DS w ALA/DMSA, I just want to be clearly informed to give details when others ask me why I am dettaching from the known DAN! Approach even when it has proven positive for many. Are there other risks besides redistribution? I have observed that one of the kids chelated w CA-EDTA suffered from temporary demineralization in bones and consequent joint-bone pain.... Please give me more info regarding adverse effects of this, I want to be a well informed advocate :-) TIA Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral My advice is to stay away from IV chelation. The long-term results are unpredictable. Read the files here to learn how to chelate safely. Aluminum won't interfere with DMSA's effectiveness. Perhaps you can use magnesium malate form of magnesium which some say helps with aluminum. It is a myth that oral chelation will aggravate yeast more than others. Use yeast fighters to deal with it. IV chelation can aggravate yeast just as much by redistributing metals to the gut. And if mercury is an issue for your daughter, EDTA is contraindicated. Jo > > Hello everyone, > We are ready to start chelating. Our PA is open to different kinds of chelation. She can do EDTA IV every two weeks. (She said this would help get aluminum, which we know is a problem for us). Or she said we could do oral DMSA, 3days on, 4 days off. With both of these, she said we could add the ALA later after we know she is tolerating it. She also said there is an order to the way the metals come out. I am afraid if I give the DMSA, it won't pull anything because of all the Aluminum. I would appreciate any info you can give me. > > My daughter is 14 and does well. She is a yeasty kid, so I am concerned about the oral chelation making it worse. > > Also, should I do the hair test that Andy recommends before I start? > > Thanks, > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 EDTA is known not to remove mercury from the human body. That is a simple fact that has been known for a very long time. That is well known and found in pharmacy and medical textbooks. It will remove lead. What is very important to understand it that the EDTA will form toxic complexes with the mercury that is in the body - complexes that are much more toxic than mercury itself and can push the mercury to hard to get at places, and then they don't leave. So the " good " that may be seen is from the removal of lead and the " bad " is from it forming complexes with mercury and pushing these toxic complexes to hard to get at places, including into the internal organs and the brain. The results are not known (because basically giving people EDTA IVs is a human experiment) but are most likely some degenerative illnesses down the road, often psychiatric problems, neurological problems, all the problems that mercury causes. Andy has had much experience with people who have used EDTA and then came to him to chelate properly afterward. He would have more to say about what happens... different things to different people. The bottom line is what he says... DON'T ever chelate anyone who has mercury in their system with EDTA.... ever. EDTA also removed essential minerals. These have to be replaced. That is a minor problem compared to what it does when there is mercury in the body. EDTA does have a place in oral chelation for lead, if DMSA cannot be used for some reason, AND if all mercury has already been chelated out of the system. J > > > > Hello everyone, > > We are ready to start chelating. Our PA is open to different kinds of chelation. She can do EDTA IV every two weeks. (She said this would help get aluminum, which we know is a problem for us). Or she said we could do oral DMSA, 3days on, 4 days off. With both of these, she said we could add the ALA later after we know she is tolerating it. She also said there is an order to the way the metals come out. I am afraid if I give the DMSA, it won't pull anything because of all the Aluminum. I would appreciate any info you can give me. > > > > My daughter is 14 and does well. She is a yeasty kid, so I am concerned about the oral chelation making it worse. > > > > Also, should I do the hair test that Andy recommends before I start? > > > > Thanks, > > Sandy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 And what about (oral) DMPS? I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. Betsy > > > EDTA is known not to remove mercury from the human body. That is a simple fact that has been known for a very long time. That is well known and found in pharmacy and medical textbooks. It will remove lead. > > What is very important to understand it that the EDTA will form toxic complexes with the mercury that is in the body - complexes that are much more toxic than mercury itself and can push the mercury to hard to get at places, and then they don't leave. So the " good " that may be seen is from the removal of lead and the " bad " is from it forming complexes with mercury and pushing these toxic complexes to hard to get at places, including into the internal organs and the brain. The results are not known (because basically giving people EDTA IVs is a human experiment) but are most likely some degenerative illnesses down the road, often psychiatric problems, neurological problems, all the problems that mercury causes. > > Andy has had much experience with people who have used EDTA and then came to him to chelate properly afterward. He would have more to say about what happens... different things to different people. The bottom line is what he says... DON'T ever chelate anyone who has mercury in their system with EDTA.... ever. > > EDTA also removed essential minerals. These have to be replaced. That is a minor problem compared to what it does when there is mercury in the body. > > EDTA does have a place in oral chelation for lead, if DMSA cannot be used for some reason, AND if all mercury has already been chelated out of the system. > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. Also did high vitamin A - great results. YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > And what about (oral) DMPS? > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 We've been using oral DMPS using cutler protocol with no problems to chelate arsenic. If you use a low dose and dont do IV or challenges, its as safe as DMSA. Karla > > > > > > EDTA is known not to remove mercury from the human body. That is a simple fact that has been known for a very long time. That is well known and found in pharmacy and medical textbooks. It will remove lead. > > > > What is very important to understand it that the EDTA will form toxic complexes with the mercury that is in the body - complexes that are much more toxic than mercury itself and can push the mercury to hard to get at places, and then they don't leave. So the " good " that may be seen is from the removal of lead and the " bad " is from it forming complexes with mercury and pushing these toxic complexes to hard to get at places, including into the internal organs and the brain. The results are not known (because basically giving people EDTA IVs is a human experiment) but are most likely some degenerative illnesses down the road, often psychiatric problems, neurological problems, all the problems that mercury causes. > > > > Andy has had much experience with people who have used EDTA and then came to him to chelate properly afterward. He would have more to say about what happens... different things to different people. The bottom line is what he says... DON'T ever chelate anyone who has mercury in their system with EDTA.... ever. > > > > EDTA also removed essential minerals. These have to be replaced. That is a minor problem compared to what it does when there is mercury in the body. > > > > EDTA does have a place in oral chelation for lead, if DMSA cannot be used for some reason, AND if all mercury has already been chelated out of the system. > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Hi rwb000, I am encouraged to read about your experience! Thank you for sharing, my boy will be 6 and everyone tells us " the window " closes at 7....I don't believe that, still I think I am running late w him. What age was your kid when you started?? Congrats on every achievement!!! Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. Also did high vitamin A - great results. YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > And what about (oral) DMPS? > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 It's never too late to chelate. Many adults here on the forum have chelated and gotten much better. Andy himself was mercury poisoned and then found a way to recover, and wrote a book. Thank God. It's just quicker at an earlier age, that's all. TJ ________________________________ From: " isaguzmandiaz2@... " <isaguzmandiaz2@...> Autism mercury group < > Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 6:01:37 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral Hi rwb000, I am encouraged to read about your experience! Thank you for sharing, my boy will be 6 and everyone tells us " the window " closes at 7....I don't believe that, still I think I am running late w him. What age was your kid when you started?? Congrats on every achievement!!! Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. Also did high vitamin A - great results. YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > And what about (oral) DMPS? > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to >chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 > > > > > > EDTA is known not to remove mercury from the human body. That is a simple fact that has been known for a very long time. That is well known and found in pharmacy and medical textbooks. It will remove lead. > > > > What is very important to understand it that the EDTA will form toxic complexes with the mercury that is in the body - complexes that are much more toxic than mercury itself and can push the mercury to hard to get at places, and then they don't leave. So the " good " that may be seen is from the removal of lead and the " bad " is from it forming complexes with mercury and pushing these toxic complexes to hard to get at places, including into the internal organs and the brain. The results are not known (because basically giving people EDTA IVs is a human experiment) but are most likely some degenerative illnesses down the road, often psychiatric problems, neurological problems, all the problems that mercury causes. > > > > Andy has had much experience with people who have used EDTA and then came to him to chelate properly afterward. He would have more to say about what happens... different things to different people. The bottom line is what he says... DON'T ever chelate anyone who has mercury in their system with EDTA.... ever. > > > > EDTA also removed essential minerals. These have to be replaced. That is a minor problem compared to what it does when there is mercury in the body. > > > > EDTA does have a place in oral chelation for lead, if DMSA cannot be used for some reason, AND if all mercury has already been chelated out of the system. > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Oral DMPS is fine as long as you follow the AC protocol, which respects the half-life of the chelator and minimizes the redistribution of metals pulled from the tissues. TJ ________________________________ From: lindajaytee <lindajaytee@...> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:05:05 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral  > > > > > > EDTA is known not to remove mercury from the human body. That is a simple >fact that has been known for a very long time. That is well known and found in >pharmacy and medical textbooks. It will remove lead. > > > > > What is very important to understand it that the EDTA will form toxic >complexes with the mercury that is in the body - complexes that are much more >toxic than mercury itself and can push the mercury to hard to get at places, and >then they don't leave. So the " good " that may be seen is from the removal of >lead and the " bad " is from it forming complexes with mercury and pushing these >toxic complexes to hard to get at places, including into the internal organs and >the brain. The results are not known (because basically giving people EDTA IVs >is a human experiment) but are most likely some degenerative illnesses down the >road, often psychiatric problems, neurological problems, all the problems that >mercury causes. > > > > Andy has had much experience with people who have used EDTA and then came to >him to chelate properly afterward. He would have more to say about what >happens... different things to different people. The bottom line is what he >says... DON'T ever chelate anyone who has mercury in their system with EDTA.... >ever. > > > > EDTA also removed essential minerals. These have to be replaced. That is a >minor problem compared to what it does when there is mercury in the body. > > > > EDTA does have a place in oral chelation for lead, if DMSA cannot be used for >some reason, AND if all mercury has already been chelated out of the system. > > > > J > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Just turned 12 yrs for vitamin A protocol - HUGE gains w/in 2 weeks. Personally believe anyone who had reaction to MMR should try this. Some need to repeat in 6 months. Just turned 14 for Chelation start - this is our 7th month, 22nd round -. We generally do 3 on 4 off but have had a couple extended rounds during vacations. We started with lowest does of ALA and have worked up to highest. No reactions at all. He does get more yeast - GSE, Biotin, NoFenol keep under control Window *NEVER* closes but changes seem to be quicker the younger u start. Adults are successfully chelating themselves much later in life. No experience with DMPS or DMSA > > Hi rwb000, > I am encouraged to read about your experience! Thank you for sharing, my boy will be 6 and everyone tells us " the window " closes at 7....I don't believe that, still I think I am running late w him. What age was your kid when you started?? > Congrats on every achievement!!! > Isa > > I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. > > 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. > > Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. > > Also did high vitamin A - great results. > > YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > > > > And what about (oral) DMPS? > > > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Thank you for replying, I would also appreciate a lot if you give me more details on how you started him w the high vit A protocol, my kid is indeed an MMR injured kid. I recently acquired Wakefield's book " callous disregard " and from the portrayed cases, my kid fits in to 6....the whole problematic, symptoms...what a nightmare, uh? Everybody wanting to vaccinate our kids, and now that they are hurt, everybody fails to help us...excepting other parents in the same condition.... Thank you, Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Chelation IV vs Oral Just turned 12 yrs for vitamin A protocol - HUGE gains w/in 2 weeks. Personally believe anyone who had reaction to MMR should try this. Some need to repeat in 6 months. Just turned 14 for Chelation start - this is our 7th month, 22nd round -. We generally do 3 on 4 off but have had a couple extended rounds during vacations. We started with lowest does of ALA and have worked up to highest. No reactions at all. He does get more yeast - GSE, Biotin, NoFenol keep under control Window *NEVER* closes but changes seem to be quicker the younger u start. Adults are successfully chelating themselves much later in life. No experience with DMPS or DMSA > > Hi rwb000, > I am encouraged to read about your experience! Thank you for sharing, my boy will be 6 and everyone tells us " the window " closes at 7....I don't believe that, still I think I am running late w him. What age was your kid when you started?? > Congrats on every achievement!!! > Isa > > I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. > > 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. > > Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. > > Also did high vitamin A - great results. > > YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > > > > And what about (oral) DMPS? > > > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I'm short on time right now but the files section, Sheri Nakken and DANASVIEW site really have everything you need to get started. We used mycellized (sp)Vit A drops (Kirkman about $15-20 as I recall) Really simple. We split doses to minimize chance for reaction - there were none. Chelation with ALA is only a few dollars per month also. Cutler is the safest protocol IMHO. I don't know about OSR but am following stories, pro and con. You wont see these cures mainstream (yet) because 1) there is no money to be made and 2) it would be an admission and implication of vaccines triggering autism. The more parents that recover their kids and writer about it, the more difficult it will be for the cover up to continue. BTW _ I nominate Sheri and Dana for Angel Wings. They are 2 of the most amazing and consistent I have observed over the years and they have helped us greatly. > > > > Hi rwb000, > > I am encouraged to read about your experience! Thank you for sharing, my boy will be 6 and everyone tells us " the window " closes at 7....I don't believe that, still I think I am running late w him. What age was your kid when you started?? > > Congrats on every achievement!!! > > Isa > > > > > I've been been admin for LA Special Needs Community Calendar - reading, watching others experience for about 12 years before we started with Cutler Protocol. I was primarily concerned with not making him worse and after all this time saw virtually ZERO kids hurt with CUTLER PROTOCOL but have seen severe problems with most other forms, including deaths from IV. Its too harsh and dangerous IMHO. Yeast seems to be worst and most common issue with CP. Easily dealt with. > > > > 2 yrs round the clock on weekends is no big deal. My son is able to tell us he feels better and wants to continue. Just got straight A+'s on 8th grade report card, working on grade level. Incredible improvement. Long way to go. > > > > Only regret - Would have liked to started earlier. > > > > Also did high vitamin A - great results. > > > > YMMV - best wishes for what ever anyone tries with their kids. > > > > > > > And what about (oral) DMPS? > > > > > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Thank you for the comments on DMPS. Being new to this, I don't know whether the doctor's suggestions are low, infrequent doses. Here is what has been suggested: Oral Chelation Programme 12 week course, in two week blocks: Days 1-3 (take 5mg/kg in divided doses): PM112 DMPS 100mg (20 Caps) Days 4-14 (take 3 caps, 3 times daily): Mineral 650 (180 Caps) (PE-MF1) Continue for the 12 weeks. Pharmacy (to be taken throughout chelation period): Take daily: Super Z-Lite 90 caps (2 daily) Charcoal 500g (EN-3) (1tsp daily) Yaeyama Chlorella 400mg (150 Caps) (J-17003) (5 daily) Alpha Lipoic Acid 200mg (120 Caps) (PE-AL21) (3 daily) Take on days 4-14: Bio-Clear (590g) (B-337-01) (2 scoops daily) Magnesium (citrate) 150mg (180 Caps)(PE-MC1)(3 daily) Any comments welcome. I would love to get the mercury and antimony out of my son, just frightened at the thought of possibly making things worse. Betsy > > > > And what about (oral) DMPS? > > > > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to > >chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. > > > > Betsy > > > > I've been using oral DMPS to chelate myself using the Cutler protocol. It isn't > scary at all when used properly (low frequent doses. I am extremely sensitive > and have made plenty of progress. Because of the long half life I have been able > to chelate continuously for periods of time. I have to go slow, at low doses. I > used DMPS to clear out some body burden because at first I could not wake at > night for ALA. What IS scary are the high doses infrequent doses or DMPS IVs. > > Now I am chelating with DMSA and ALA every 3h. > > J > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 EDTA as you probably already read is bad for mercury toxicity. Andy has many posts on this. Please check the Onibasu Wiki. Speaking with a child who had severely high aluminum it came down on it's own by reducing expsoure and doing dmsa/ala chelation AC protocol. Doing EDTA every two weeks you risk seriously making your child worse if she has mercury. I would do the dmsa. There is no order to the way the metals come out. Andy has said this many times. And it seems to hold very true from what I'm seeing in subsequent hair testing. DMSA will pull everything regardless of how much aluminum you have. My son is proof of that. Look at his hair tests on my webpage, you can see his aluminum continue to drop over the years. http://www.freewebs.com/mercurybabies/ Yeast is seriously unavoidable during chelation. But it won't go away unless you chelate and it is controllable during the entire process. You will get yeast no matter what chelator you use or how you give it. Just get an antifungal protocol on board that you can know works for her and increase and decrease in response to her need. For us this meant my son took GSE (grapefruit seed) every day for 3 years. By the time we reached 50 rounds the yeast became more manageable, by round 74 it went away. It makes brief appearance here and there now. The hair test is nice to have, not essential but I bet you'd learn a lot more than just her aluminum status. It can give indicators to her adrenal and thyroid function and whether or not she has mercury and lead..etc. If you are blessed enough to have a PA who will go along with DMSA/ALA on Andy protocol....I'd take the blessing. Jan > > Hello everyone, > We are ready to start chelating. Our PA is open to different kinds of chelation. She can do EDTA IV every two weeks. (She said this would help get aluminum, which we know is a problem for us). Or she said we could do oral DMSA, 3days on, 4 days off. With both of these, she said we could add the ALA later after we know she is tolerating it. She also said there is an order to the way the metals come out. I am afraid if I give the DMSA, it won't pull anything because of all the Aluminum. I would appreciate any info you can give me. > > My daughter is 14 and does well. She is a yeasty kid, so I am concerned about the oral chelation making it worse. > > Also, should I do the hair test that Andy recommends before I start? > > Thanks, > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 > Thank you for replying, I would also appreciate a lot if you give me more details on how you started him w the high vit A protocol, my kid is indeed an MMR injured kid. Here is info and what I did for my son http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 My sons and I have used oral DMPS without no issues. But we need to dose it ideally every 6 hours, maximum 7 hours. I doesn't last 8 hours for us. It's the least disruptive to the sleep schedule. I've done six day rounds with DMPS. However, my husband with bad liver (Hep B carrier) didn't do well on DMPS - made him have crazy dreams and lose concentration and the ability to listen to people. I think he's full of mercury and his weak liver couldn't clear it too well. ALA is easier on the liver. Jo > > > And what about (oral) DMPS? > > > > > I've read scary things about it, but a doctor has just suggested using it to chelate mercury and antimony. I'm very interested in comments from people here. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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