Re: Really need your help

[Guest guest]

Jackie

I would say something is bothering him of course. I would stop everything and

give it a week or two rest. Then add one thing at a time and see what happens.

Maybe doing enzymes first, biotin next for yeast. Then increase that biotin,

2x's, 3x's. Keep a diary.

Has he had allergy testing? Clo, soy, allergic? Swallowing pills? Go with

capsules.

Tammy

[ ] Really need your help

Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism. He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some recent

issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure what to

do. He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every week. I

have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and B6. He

usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused. CLO really helps

his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming more

oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him. I use lemon

flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week. Has

anyone else had this result with CLO?

The

issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast. He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting but

it didn't seem to touch it. I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a

day, didn't seem to make a difference. Gave him this for about a month. Also

started biotin about

5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think? Thanks

and sorry so long.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I would also add that Carlson's didn't go over well here.. I am not sure

about their added vitamins.. so in any case I switched to pure

encapsulations CLO and that has been better. However, sounds bacterial to

me more than yeast/allergy.

Since you haven't tried probiotics.. try some culturelle or something like

that and see if it helps.. aggression here is almost always bacterial.

clostridia I believe.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Tammy Kuhn

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:34 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Really need your help

Jackie

I would say something is bothering him of course. I would stop everything

and give it a week or two rest. Then add one thing at a time and see what

happens. Maybe doing enzymes first, biotin next for yeast. Then increase

that biotin, 2x's, 3x's. Keep a diary.

Has he had allergy testing? Clo, soy, allergic? Swallowing pills? Go with

capsules.

Tammy

[ ] Really need your help

Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism. He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some

recent issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not

sure what to do. He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear

every week. I have tried a number of supplements over the years including

CLO and B6. He usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.

CLO really helps his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him

becoming more oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to

him. I use lemon flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4

days a week. Has anyone else had this result with CLO?

The

issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all

kinds of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's

system could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at

night (which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime wetting

and has been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule out a

UTI-he was clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure

he did not swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it sounds

like yeast. He has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing

inappropriately, excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would usually work

when he's spitting but it didn't seem to touch it. I then tried Oil of

Oregano-about 2 drops once a day, didn't seem to make a difference. Gave him

this for about a month. Also started biotin about

5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could

it be too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several

weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a

child with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all

think? Thanks and sorry so long.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Did they rule out diabetes? Excessive urination (and bedwetting) and nausea

after meals were the first signs of my son's type-1 dx four years ago . .

..

-BJ

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jackie.

Wow, so sorry you and your son are going through this. I hope you see

improvements soon. Lucky for your son that you ARE the custodial parent.

I've found the following to be very useful. My son had good results from an

anti-fungal parade given by his DAN! Dr. (we just weren't getting anywhere with

diet and natural anti-fungal/biotics alone) We addressed yeast and clostridia as

indicated by an Organic Acids Test.

Both seem to go hand in hand with gut dysbiosis but OAT can give more accurate

details. Tricare has covered the expense as long as it's every 6mo. Don't know

about other insurance carriers.

Great Plains labs has many informative articles that are worth the time to read.

Not too complex so laymen can follow.

Essential reading is linked here:

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/chinese/yeast2.asp

As a note please be aware the GFCF diet, SCD, etc may not be aiding your

attempts at clearing opportunistic pathogens. We really started to see results

when we adopted the Body Ecology Diet and GAP diet.

linked here:

http://www.gapsdiet.com/

http://www.bedrokcommunity.org/id71.html

Best wishes to you!

Theodora

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism.  He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some recent

issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure what to

do.  He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every week.  I

have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and B6.  He

usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.  CLO really helps

his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming more

oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him.  I use lemon

flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week.  Has

anyone else had this result with CLO? 

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting but

it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a

day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month.  Also

started biotin about

> 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think?  Thanks

and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, that is a hard situation. I think the BEST thing to do is to start

explaining to him what you are doing and why. After I included my son in his

treatment (by explaining what I was doing) and telling him certain things caused

" owie tummy " , he started to get it and avoid things that made him sick on his

own. Sometimes it is a supplement. If he is on his special diet for long

enough, infractions should be obvious. Hopefully his non-custodial parent will

see this when it happens (not wishing bad upon your son of course) - sometimes

it makes a believer out of them.

One thing that is going to be helpful, but maybe hard for you/him, is avoiding

all sweets. We had to do this in order to get the yeast under control, it just

wasn't going to be under control, ever, if we didn't. When a person has really

bad candida (yeast), food intolerances are much worse. I have never used Oil of

Oregano, but I have used Candex and Candidaise and would recommend them. I

would also recommend cultured vegetables and kefir as a source of probiotics.

Best wishes

Liz

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism.  He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some recent

issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure what to

do.  He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every week.  I

have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and B6.  He

usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.  CLO really helps

his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming more

oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him.  I use lemon

flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week.  Has

anyone else had this result with CLO? 

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting but

it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a

day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month.  Also

started biotin about

> 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think?  Thanks

and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>CLO really helps his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him

becoming more oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him.

I use lemon flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a

week. Has anyone else had this result with CLO?

My son became very oppositional with CLO and all other EFAs, until I added mito

cocktail.

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>>He then started throwing up especially at school after lunch. Thought it was

from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I noticed the throwing up started after

I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be too strong for him?

My son did not tolerate OoO.

>>In the last several weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started

hitting, pinching, pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost

always laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts

of aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.

Try dropping the OoO and the CLO.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Thanks so much for your input.  I think you're right about the sugar and I am

going to eliminate as much as possible.  Do you need a prescription from a

doctor for Candex and Candidase?  Thanks again.

Jackie

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Really need your help

Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:23 PM

 

I'm sorry, that is a hard situation. I think the BEST thing to do is to

start explaining to him what you are doing and why. After I included my son in

his treatment (by explaining what I was doing) and telling him certain things

caused " owie tummy " , he started to get it and avoid things that made him sick on

his own. Sometimes it is a supplement. If he is on his special diet for long

enough, infractions should be obvious. Hopefully his non-custodial parent will

see this when it happens (not wishing bad upon your son of course) - sometimes

it makes a believer out of them.

One thing that is going to be helpful, but maybe hard for you/him, is avoiding

all sweets. We had to do this in order to get the yeast under control, it just

wasn't going to be under control, ever, if we didn't. When a person has really

bad candida (yeast), food intolerances are much worse. I have never used Oil of

Oregano, but I have used Candex and Candidaise and would recommend them. I

would also recommend cultured vegetables and kefir as a source of probiotics.

Best wishes

Liz

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism.  He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some recent

issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure what to

do.  He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every week.  I

have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and B6.  He

usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.  CLO really helps

his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming more

oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him.  I use lemon

flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week.  Has

anyone else had this result with CLO? 

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting

but it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once

a day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month. 

Also started biotin

about

> 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think? 

Thanks and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information.  Is there a particular anti-bacterial you'd

recommend?  Thanks again.

Jackie

From: and Teraza Real <jtreal@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Really need your help

Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:08 PM

 

I would also add that Carlson's didn't go over well here.. I am not sure

about their added vitamins.. so in any case I switched to pure

encapsulations CLO and that has been better. However, sounds bacterial to

me more than yeast/allergy.

Since you haven't tried probiotics.. try some culturelle or something like

that and see if it helps.. aggression here is almost always bacterial.

clostridia I believe.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Tammy Kuhn

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:34 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Really need your help

Jackie

I would say something is bothering him of course. I would stop everything

and give it a week or two rest. Then add one thing at a time and see what

happens. Maybe doing enzymes first, biotin next for yeast. Then increase

that biotin, 2x's, 3x's. Keep a diary.

Has he had allergy testing? Clo, soy, allergic? Swallowing pills? Go with

capsules.

Tammy

[ ] Really need your help

Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism. He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some

recent issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not

sure what to do. He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear

every week. I have tried a number of supplements over the years including

CLO and B6. He usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.

CLO really helps his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him

becoming more oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to

him. I use lemon flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4

days a week. Has anyone else had this result with CLO?

The

issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all

kinds of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's

system could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at

night (which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime wetting

and has been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule out a

UTI-he was clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure

he did not swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it sounds

like yeast. He has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing

inappropriately, excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would usually work

when he's spitting but it didn't seem to touch it. I then tried Oil of

Oregano-about 2 drops once a day, didn't seem to make a difference. Gave him

this for about a month. Also started biotin about

5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could

it be too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several

weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a

child with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all

think? Thanks and sorry so long.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,

Thanks.  I am stopping everything for a week as you recommended then start

slowly leaving the GSE for last-no OOO for a while.  I've been keeping a loose

diary-maybe once a week but will increase entries.  He hasn't been allergy

tested most things I've learned by trial and error.  I really want to get him

to a point where we can start chelation, very hesitant to try now.  Thanks

again.

Jackie

From: Tammy Kuhn <tkuhn1@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Really need your help

Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:33 PM

 

Jackie

I would say something is bothering him of course. I would stop everything and

give it a week or two rest. Then add one thing at a time and see what happens.

Maybe doing enzymes first, biotin next for yeast. Then increase that biotin,

2x's, 3x's. Keep a diary.

Has he had allergy testing? Clo, soy, allergic? Swallowing pills? Go with

capsules.

Tammy

[ ] Really need your help

Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism. He

has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some recent

issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure what to

do. He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every week. I

have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and B6. He

usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused. CLO really helps

his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming more

oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him. I use lemon

flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week. Has

anyone else had this result with CLO?

The

issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast. He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting but

it didn't seem to touch it. I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a

day, didn't seem to make a difference. Gave him this for about a month. Also

started biotin about

5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think? Thanks

and sorry so long.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

For me and my oldest son, hysterical, uncontrollable giggling is directly

related to not getting enough salt. Switching to a good quality sea salt (Celtic

sea salt) did a lot for us. Sea salt also helps kill yeast, so that may be

related to our hysterical episodes, although I don't think that is the entire

explanation. (We both have a genetic disorder that causes our bodies to

misprocess salt. And salt also impacts neurological function.)

For yeast, I pretty routinely use extra sea salt, extra organic yogurt (for the

probiotics -- if dairy is not allowed, then read that as " good quality probitic

supplement " ), and coconut oil. I don't tolerate GSE well, so I haven't taken it

in a long time. IIRC, it is high phenol and I apparently don't tolerate phenols

well.

When I or my sons don't tolerate oral treatments well, I do a lot of things

topically. We have found that wiping down the belly with peroxide or diet tonic

water helps kill the excess yeast. I also use coconut oil topically to treat

vaginal yeast infections. I see no reason why you couldn't do that topically on

the belly (and then send the kid to the shower and wash it off -- it's messy).

Oil of Oregano is strong. My feeling is that it may be causing vomiting for

reasons other than the yeast. But I can't say why I think that. I routinely

vomit when my system is overwhelmed and trying to dump toxins rapidly. It is,

for me, an indicator that we are pushing the healing process very fast and my

system just can't manage to dump enough crud by the usual pathways (feces, urine

and sweat). When that happens, I typically do not vomit much food. Instead, I

vomit something very bitter. It is preceded by a severe sinus headache, which

goes away after I have vomited up enough bitter stuff. I've discussed this with

a few people and the general consensus is that I am vomiting bile. I drink lots

of grape juice and water when this goes on. It helps flush the system and

doesn't burn coming back up the way a lot of drinks can.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting but

it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a

day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month.  Also

started biotin about

> 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think?  Thanks

and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for the information. Is there a particular anti-bacterial you'd

recommend? Thanks again.

I like OLE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

No you don't, should be available online or in supplement stores.

>

> >

>

> > Hello Everyone,

>

> > I would really appreciate some advice for my 9 y.o. with moderate autism. 

He has been on gfcf diet since he was 3 and I am ready to chelate but some

recent issues has come up that only seem to be getting worse and I'm not sure

what to do.  He is verbal and his communication is becoming more clear every

week.  I have tried a number of supplements over the years including CLO and

B6.  He usually has good results with the B6-he seems more focused.  CLO

really helps his reasoning , communication etc but I've noticed him becoming

more oppositional the last few months within a day of giving it to him.  I use

lemon flavored Carlson's and I give him 1 tsp a day about 3 or 4 days a week. 

Has anyone else had this result with CLO? 

>

> >

>

> > The

>

> > issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting

but it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once

a day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month. 

Also started biotin

> about

>

> > 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially

at school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think? 

Thanks and sorry so long.

>

> >

>

> > Jackie

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you , those are some very helpful recommendations-I have purchased

the coconut oil in the past (crisco like texture) but did not know it was good

for yeast.  I will also try the sea salt.  Thanks again.

Jackie

From: michele_in_california <talithamichele@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Really need your help

Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 7:08 AM

 

For me and my oldest son, hysterical, uncontrollable giggling is directly

related to not getting enough salt. Switching to a good quality sea salt (Celtic

sea salt) did a lot for us. Sea salt also helps kill yeast, so that may be

related to our hysterical episodes, although I don't think that is the entire

explanation. (We both have a genetic disorder that causes our bodies to

misprocess salt. And salt also impacts neurological function.)

For yeast, I pretty routinely use extra sea salt, extra organic yogurt (for the

probiotics -- if dairy is not allowed, then read that as " good quality probitic

supplement " ) , and coconut oil. I don't tolerate GSE well, so I haven't taken

it in a long time. IIRC, it is high phenol and I apparently don't tolerate

phenols well.

When I or my sons don't tolerate oral treatments well, I do a lot of things

topically. We have found that wiping down the belly with peroxide or diet tonic

water helps kill the excess yeast. I also use coconut oil topically to treat

vaginal yeast infections. I see no reason why you couldn't do that topically on

the belly (and then send the kid to the shower and wash it off -- it's messy).

Oil of Oregano is strong. My feeling is that it may be causing vomiting for

reasons other than the yeast. But I can't say why I think that. I routinely

vomit when my system is overwhelmed and trying to dump toxins rapidly. It is,

for me, an indicator that we are pushing the healing process very fast and my

system just can't manage to dump enough crud by the usual pathways (feces, urine

and sweat). When that happens, I typically do not vomit much food. Instead, I

vomit something very bitter. It is preceded by a severe sinus headache, which

goes away after I have vomited up enough bitter stuff. I've discussed this with

a few people and the general consensus is that I am vomiting bile. I drink lots

of grape juice and water when this goes on. It helps flush the system and

doesn't burn coming back up the way a lot of drinks can.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthga zelle.com

http://www.kidslike mine.com

http://www.solanora il.com

>

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all kinds

of foods that are not gfcf.  He did give enzymes but I think our son's system

could not handle it.  The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed at night

(which he rarely does).  The problem then extended to daytime wetting and has

been happening ever since.  I took him to the doctor to rule out a UTI-he was

clear.  The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to make sure he did not

swallow anything.  From what I've read on this group it sounds like yeast.  He

has had yeast issues in the past with giggling, laughing inappropriately,

excessive spitting.  I tried GSE which would usually work when he's spitting

but it didn't seem to touch it.  I then tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once

a day, didn't seem to make a difference.  Gave him this for about a month. 

Also started biotin

about

> 5mg a day.  No real difference.  He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch.  Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then I

noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could it be

too strong for him?  Anyone else had this issue?  In the last several weeks my

sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children.  He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling.  Almost like he's high on something (yeast?)  The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing.  I would appreciate any feedback-I haven't

tried probiotics yet.  I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop the

vomiting.  I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has a child

with autism).  I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all think? 

Thanks and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I like utilizing the sea salt and coconut oil in our family's diet. People

don't realize how lacking in the " right kind " of salt we American's are.

Salt along with water is utilized in almost every function in our body. It

is also important for the hardening of our bones and many endocrine,brain,

and regulatory functions. I've read where it is recommended that we take

in 1/4 tsp of sea salt per liter of water consumed.

-- [ ] Re: Really need your help

Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 7:08 AM

For me and my oldest son, hysterical, uncontrollable giggling is directly

related to not getting enough salt. Switching to a good quality sea salt

(Celtic sea salt) did a lot for us. Sea salt also helps kill yeast, so that

may be related to our hysterical episodes, although I don't think that is

the entire explanation. (We both have a genetic disorder that causes our

bodies to misprocess salt. And salt also impacts neurological function.)

For yeast, I pretty routinely use extra sea salt, extra organic yogurt (for

the probiotics -- if dairy is not allowed, then read that as " good quality

probitic supplement " ) , and coconut oil. I don't tolerate GSE well, so I

haven't taken it in a long time. IIRC, it is high phenol and I apparently

don't tolerate phenols well.

When I or my sons don't tolerate oral treatments well, I do a lot of things

topically. We have found that wiping down the belly with peroxide or diet

tonic water helps kill the excess yeast. I also use coconut oil topically to

treat vaginal yeast infections. I see no reason why you couldn't do that

topically on the belly (and then send the kid to the shower and wash it off

-- it's messy).

Oil of Oregano is strong. My feeling is that it may be causing vomiting for

reasons other than the yeast. But I can't say why I think that. I routinely

vomit when my system is overwhelmed and trying to dump toxins rapidly. It is

for me, an indicator that we are pushing the healing process very fast and

my system just can't manage to dump enough crud by the usual pathways (feces

urine and sweat). When that happens, I typically do not vomit much food.

Instead, I vomit something very bitter. It is preceded by a severe sinus

headache, which goes away after I have vomited up enough bitter stuff. I've

discussed this with a few people and the general consensus is that I am

vomiting bile. I drink lots of grape juice and water when this goes on. It

helps flush the system and doesn't burn coming back up the way a lot of

drinks can.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthga zelle.com

http://www.kidslike mine.com

http://www.solanora il.com

>

>

> The

> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all

kinds of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's

system could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed

at night (which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime

wetting and has been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule

out a UTI-he was clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to

make sure he did not swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it

sounds like yeast. He has had yeast issues in the past with giggling,

laughing inappropriately, excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would

usually work when he's spitting but it didn't seem to touch it. I then

tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a day, didn't seem to make a

difference. Gave him this for about a month. Also started biotin

about

> 5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could

it be too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several

weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven

t tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop

the vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has

a child with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all

think? Thanks and sorry so long.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I keep my coconut oil near the stove or between the stove and fridge. It is

fairly warm there. If it is warm enough, it should melt and turn into a very

light colored clear liquid. If stored someplace cold, it solidifies again.

The liquid form is more convenient for topical use and for oral dosing or even

measuring for cooking.

I bought a new jar just a few days ago and it came home solid like you describe.

I sat it on top of the stove and back a bit while we cooked so it would warm up

fairly quickly. I have had a raging vaginal yeast infection the past few days

and bought the coconut oil to treat that, so I was impatient to get it warmed

up. It worked very well to warm it that way.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> Thank you , those are some very helpful recommendations-I have

purchased the coconut oil in the past (crisco like texture) but did not know it

was good for yeast.  I will also try the sea salt.  Thanks again.

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

I see a lot about sea salt and I was wondering what was wrong with iodoized

table salt?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > The

>

> > issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

> began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all

> kinds of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's

> system could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed

> at night (which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime

> wetting and has been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule

> out a UTI-he was clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to

> make sure he did not swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it

> sounds like yeast. He has had yeast issues in the past with giggling,

> laughing inappropriately, excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would

> usually work when he's spitting but it didn't seem to touch it. I then

> tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a day, didn't seem to make a

> difference. Gave him this for about a month. Also started biotin

> about

>

> > 5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

> school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

> I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could

> it be too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several

> weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

> pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

> laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

> aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

> places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven

> t tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop

> the vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has

> a child with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all

> think? Thanks and sorry so long.

>

> >

>

> > Jackie

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I see a lot about sea salt and I was wondering what was wrong with iodoized

table salt?

>

>

>

Something I recently wrote elsewhere:

I understand,

that our food lacks minerals, and Celtic Sea salt doesn't, but is there

anyrhing more specific?

My best recollection is that table salt is about 96% sodium chloride ( " salt " )

and the other 4% is stuff like anti-caking agents, iodine that they add (because

the Midwest was the " Goiter Belt " years ago due to lack of access to salt water

fish), and a few other things that have little or no nutritional value. In

contrast, Celtic sea salt is about 84% sodium chloride and the other 16% is a

mix of 80-some-odd micronutrients found naturally in sea water. Since life on

the planet supposedly originated in the sea, it makes sense to me that the

chemical mix found there would be more life-enhancing/life-supporting than other

forms of salt.

Is there something I could read on the topic?

A couple of things I found real quick:

http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf

http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

I have read some other things but I have no idea if I kept the links and I don't

have time to search more right now. One piece talked about a study where they

compared the impact of sea salt vs. table salt on animals. As a control, they

had another group of animals that were not fed anything at all -- were simply

starved. They found that the animals which were starved died slower than the

animals fed table salt as part of their diet. Their conclusion: table salt is

actually " poisonous " and kills, whereas good quality sea salt supports and

improves health. I have no idea how scientific that study was or how reliable

the source was. But it's a story that really struck me. These days, my sons

and I refer to table salt as " industrial salt " because we only use it for

" industrial " purposes like scrubbing mold off the sink. We think it pretty much

tastes like poison.

HTH.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

michele_in_california wrote:

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I see a lot about sea salt and I was wondering what was wrong with

> iodoized table salt?

> >

> >

> >

>

> Something I recently wrote elsewhere:

>

> I understand,

> that our food lacks minerals, and Celtic Sea salt doesn't, but is there

> anyrhing more specific?

>

> My best recollection is that table salt is about 96% sodium chloride

> ( " salt " ) and the other 4% is stuff like anti-caking agents, iodine

> that they add (because the Midwest was the " Goiter Belt " years ago due

> to lack of access to salt water fish), and a few other things that

> have little or no nutritional value. In contrast, Celtic sea salt is

> about 84% sodium chloride and the other 16% is a mix of 80-some-odd

> micronutrients found naturally in sea water. Since life on the planet

> supposedly originated in the sea, it makes sense to me that the

> chemical mix found there would be more life-enhancing/life-supporting

> than other forms of salt.

>

It also has all the other gunk that pollutes the oceans, including

heavy-metals.

Himalayan salt, harvested from century-old natural deposits, does not

have this problem

>

> Is there something I could read on the topic?

>

> A couple of things I found real quick:

> http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf

> <http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf>

>

> http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

> <http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp>

>

> I have read some other things but I have no idea if I kept the links

> and I don't have time to search more right now. One piece talked about

> a study where they compared the impact of sea salt vs. table salt on

> animals. As a control, they had another group of animals that were not

> fed anything at all -- were simply starved. They found that the

> animals which were starved died slower than the animals fed table salt

> as part of their diet. Their conclusion: table salt is actually

> " poisonous " and kills, whereas good quality sea salt supports and

> improves health. I have no idea how scientific that study was or how

> reliable the source was. But it's a story that really struck me. These

> days, my sons and I refer to table salt as " industrial salt " because

> we only use it for " industrial " purposes like scrubbing mold off the

> sink. We think it pretty much tastes like poison.

>

> HTH.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> It also has all the other gunk that pollutes the oceans, including

> heavy-metals.

>

> Himalayan salt, harvested from century-old natural deposits, does not

> have this problem

>

>

>

>

As I understand it, Celtic sea salt has the highest percentage of micronutrients

of any salt sold. I think that is why it has done so much for me. Most other

salts I have tried, even those labeled " sea salt " , did not do for me what Celtic

does. Most of them are more akin to kosher salt or " canning and pickling " salt

-- still better than table salt but not sufficiently life-enhancing to help me

heal from a lifetime of illness. I don't think I have tried Himalayan salt, so

I can't say specifically. I have seen it in a comparison chart and it doesn't

have the diversity and amount of minerals that Celtic has. I have no doubt it

is superior to table salt but I have serious doubts that it would work for me as

an alternative to Celtic.

I do sometimes use McCormick's French Grey. My son has said that it is like

" stale Celtic " . I pick it up occasionally if we are running out of Celtic and

waiting for a shipment. The quality is inferior and the cost is much higher

than Celtic but it does have the advantage of being locally available at our

regular grocery store.

Thanks for chiming in.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

michele_in_california wrote:

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > It also has all the other gunk that pollutes the oceans, including

> > heavy-metals.

> >

> > Himalayan salt, harvested from century-old natural deposits, does not

> > have this problem

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> As I understand it, Celtic sea salt has the highest percentage of

> micronutrients of any salt sold. I think that is why it has done so

> much for me. Most other salts I have tried, even those labeled " sea

> salt " , did not do for me what Celtic does. Most of them are more akin

> to kosher salt or " canning and pickling " salt -- still better than

> table salt but not sufficiently life-enhancing to help me heal from a

> lifetime of illness. I don't think I have tried Himalayan salt, so I

> can't say specifically. I have seen it in a comparison chart and it

> doesn't have the diversity and amount of minerals that Celtic has.

>

.... or heavy-metals, like mercury. This is a good thing.

> I have no doubt it is superior to table salt but I have serious doubts

> that it would work for me as an alternative to Celtic.

>

> I do sometimes use McCormick's French Grey. My son has said that it is

> like " stale Celtic " . I pick it up occasionally if we are running out

> of Celtic and waiting for a shipment. The quality is inferior and the

> cost is much higher than Celtic but it does have the advantage of

> being locally available at our regular grocery store.

>

> Thanks for chiming in.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > >

> > > It also has all the other gunk that pollutes the oceans, including

> > > heavy-metals.

> > >

> > > Himalayan salt, harvested from century-old natural deposits, does not

> > > have this problem

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > As I understand it, Celtic sea salt has the highest percentage of

> > micronutrients of any salt sold. I think that is why it has done so

> > much for me. Most other salts I have tried, even those labeled " sea

> > salt " , did not do for me what Celtic does. Most of them are more akin

> > to kosher salt or " canning and pickling " salt -- still better than

> > table salt but not sufficiently life-enhancing to help me heal from a

> > lifetime of illness. I don't think I have tried Himalayan salt, so I

> > can't say specifically. I have seen it in a comparison chart and it

> > doesn't have the diversity and amount of minerals that Celtic has.

> >

> ... or heavy-metals, like mercury. This is a good thing.

>

>

>

So far, nothing else does for me what Celtic does. I was dying. Now I am not.

Michele

http://www.heathgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

OIC...

> >

> > I see a lot about sea salt and I was wondering what was wrong with iodoized

table salt?

> >

> >

> >

>

> Something I recently wrote elsewhere:

>

> I understand,

> that our food lacks minerals, and Celtic Sea salt doesn't, but is there

> anyrhing more specific?

>

> My best recollection is that table salt is about 96% sodium chloride ( " salt " )

and the other 4% is stuff like anti-caking agents, iodine that they add (because

the Midwest was the " Goiter Belt " years ago due to lack of access to salt water

fish), and a few other things that have little or no nutritional value. In

contrast, Celtic sea salt is about 84% sodium chloride and the other 16% is a

mix of 80-some-odd micronutrients found naturally in sea water. Since life on

the planet supposedly originated in the sea, it makes sense to me that the

chemical mix found there would be more life-enhancing/life-supporting than other

forms of salt.

>

> Is there something I could read on the topic?

>

> A couple of things I found real quick:

> http://www.celticseasalt.com/PDF/CSSAnalysis-Jan2007.pdf

>

> http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

>

> I have read some other things but I have no idea if I kept the links and I

don't have time to search more right now. One piece talked about a study where

they compared the impact of sea salt vs. table salt on animals. As a control,

they had another group of animals that were not fed anything at all -- were

simply starved. They found that the animals which were starved died slower than

the animals fed table salt as part of their diet. Their conclusion: table salt

is actually " poisonous " and kills, whereas good quality sea salt supports and

improves health. I have no idea how scientific that study was or how reliable

the source was. But it's a story that really struck me. These days, my sons

and I refer to table salt as " industrial salt " because we only use it for

" industrial " purposes like scrubbing mold off the sink. We think it pretty much

tastes like poison.

>

> HTH.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com

> http://www.kidslikemine.com

> http://www.solanorail.com

>

[Guest guest]

really interesting as our homeopath had given my kid salt pills and he showed

tremendous amount of gains.

From: michele_in_californ ia <talithamichele@ gmail.com>

Subject: [ ] Re: Really need your help

Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 7:08 AM

For me and my oldest son, hysterical, uncontrollable giggling is directly

related to not getting enough salt. Switching to a good quality sea salt

(Celtic sea salt) did a lot for us. Sea salt also helps kill yeast, so that

may be related to our hysterical episodes, although I don't think that is

the entire explanation. (We both have a genetic disorder that causes our

bodies to misprocess salt. And salt also impacts neurological function.)

For yeast, I pretty routinely use extra sea salt, extra organic yogurt (for

the probiotics -- if dairy is not allowed, then read that as " good quality

probitic supplement " ) , and coconut oil. I don't tolerate GSE well, so I

haven't taken it in a long time. IIRC, it is high phenol and I apparently

don't tolerate phenols well.

When I or my sons don't tolerate oral treatments well, I do a lot of things

topically. We have found that wiping down the belly with peroxide or diet

tonic water helps kill the excess yeast. I also use coconut oil topically to

treat vaginal yeast infections. I see no reason why you couldn't do that

topically on the belly (and then send the kid to the shower and wash it off

-- it's messy).

Oil of Oregano is strong. My feeling is that it may be causing vomiting for

reasons other than the yeast. But I can't say why I think that. I routinely

vomit when my system is overwhelmed and trying to dump toxins rapidly. It is

for me, an indicator that we are pushing the healing process very fast and

my system just can't manage to dump enough crud by the usual pathways (feces

urine and sweat). When that happens, I typically do not vomit much food.

Instead, I vomit something very bitter. It is preceded by a severe sinus

headache, which goes away after I have vomited up enough bitter stuff. I've

discussed this with a few people and the general consensus is that I am

vomiting bile. I drink lots of grape juice and water when this goes on. It

helps flush the system and doesn't burn coming back up the way a lot of

drinks can.

Good luck with this.

Michele

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> issues I'm most concerned about started about 4 months ago-let me say they

began right after week visit with non-custodial parent who let him eat all

kinds of foods that are not gfcf. He did give enzymes but I think our son's

system could not handle it. The first thing I noticed was wetting the bed

at night (which he rarely does). The problem then extended to daytime

wetting and has been happening ever since. I took him to the doctor to rule

out a UTI-he was clear. The doctor did an x-ray of his lower abdomen to

make sure he did not swallow anything. From what I've read on this group it

sounds like yeast. He has had yeast issues in the past with giggling,

laughing inappropriately, excessive spitting. I tried GSE which would

usually work when he's spitting but it didn't seem to touch it. I then

tried Oil of Oregano-about 2 drops once a day, didn't seem to make a

difference. Gave him this for about a month. Also started biotin

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> 5mg a day. No real difference. He then started throwing up especially at

school after lunch. Thought it was from eating too fast etc., etc. but then

I noticed the throwing up started after I started the Oil of Oregano-could

it be too strong for him? Anyone else had this issue? In the last several

weeks my sweet guy who is rarely aggressive has started hitting, pinching,

pushing/shoving adults and children. He's never angry-almost always

laughing/giggling. Almost like he's high on something (yeast?) The acts of

aggression are really concerning me as I cannot leave him at church or other

places where children are playing. I would appreciate any feedback-I haven

t tried probiotics yet. I've stopped all yeast treatment for now-to stop

the vomiting. I am taking him back to the pediatrician today (who also has

a child with autism). I'm thinking he may recommend meds what do you all

think? Thanks and sorry so long.

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