Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Then you've missed all the times it was stated that Zeolite is useless. If she is heavy metal toxic, yeast is never going to get better, so I wouldn't wait. Zurama On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Cassie Atkins <cassieatkins@...>wrote: > > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have > heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I > am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I've been using NCD for about 2.5 years now as part of Brainchild Nutrutionals detox protocol and Andy's protocl instead of DMSA. In my observation, it provides a great medium to obsorb toxins, especially heavy metals to gently remove it from the body. My boy is 8 years old now and he is making great strides in recovery. Vitaly > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 If your using NCD or zeolite your not using Andys protocol.... The statements made about observing toxins and gently removing metals are scientifically basis and pure conjecture on your part. > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Wasted time and money trying it, thanks to a useless DAN doctor. AC chelation was what gave us gains from round 1. > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 We have done Liquid Zeolites, and we saw gains that were sustained, but no idea if that was moving metals, seemed to be related more to virus angle for us, saw a spooky chicken pox rash come and go in 20 mins, weird. We did the high dose protocol for 9 weeks. Improvements in cogntion noted For removing heavy metals we rely on AC chelation protocol Mandi in UK In a message dated 08/11/2010 15:30:50 GMT Standard Time, cassieatkins@... writes: Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. ________________________________ From: mosaictm <_lisa369@..._ (mailto:lisa369@...) > _ _ (mailto: ) Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 7:00:40 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD) Wasted time and money trying it, thanks to a useless DAN doctor. AC chelation was what gave us gains from round 1. > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. ________________________________ From: mosaictm <lisa369@...> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 7:00:40 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD)  Wasted time and money trying it, thanks to a useless DAN doctor. AC chelation was what gave us gains from round 1. > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I would be hard pressed to believe it works for anyone it at the very best is a useless benign substance. Why would anyone use this when ALA and DMSA are cheaper and proven more effective > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > > > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Ideals04, What other chelators have you tried? What's your story? How old are your kid(s) ?. I know you have probably posted it here before, but I haven't scanned the board yet. ________________________________ From: ideals04 <ideals04@...> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 10:58:30 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD)  I would be hard pressed to believe it works for anyone it at the very best is a useless benign substance. Why would anyone use this when ALA and DMSA are cheaper and proven more effective > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have >heard > > > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I >am > > > > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thanks Mandy, How is the AC protocol going? how old are your kids? ________________________________ From: " Mum231ASD@... " <Mum231ASD@...> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 12:26:13 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD)  We have done Liquid Zeolites, and we saw gains that were sustained, but no idea if that was moving metals, seemed to be related more to virus angle for us, saw a spooky chicken pox rash come and go in 20 mins, weird. We did the high dose protocol for 9 weeks. Improvements in cogntion noted For removing heavy metals we rely on AC chelation protocol Mandi in UK In a message dated 08/11/2010 15:30:50 GMT Standard Time, cassieatkins@... writes: Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. ________________________________ From: mosaictm <_lisa369@..._ (mailto:lisa369@...) > _ _ (mailto: ) Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 7:00:40 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD) Wasted time and money trying it, thanks to a useless DAN doctor. AC chelation was what gave us gains from round 1. > > Hello All, > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Hello, I've been using NCD instead of DMSA for the past 2.5 years. As far as the rest of Andy's protocol (ALA dosages every 3 hours) I follow it to a dot. My logic is pretty simple, DMSA binds binds to metals in order to remove them from the body. This means it has to drag them through the stomach which often cases yeast issues. NCD encapsulates metals inside of its cage structure, thus the metals are not touching the walls. Also, I add vitamin C to the mix. My son is 8 now. > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > > > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 <Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others.> When it comes to MERCURY DETOX it doesn't work at all. 100% of patients who are taking it aren't eliminating more mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Educate yourself about the actual ingredients in products. S S Re: Zeolite (NCD) Posted by: " Cassie Atkins " cassieatkins@... cassieatkins Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:30 am (PST) Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 What exactly does it help with, because it's not a chelator, though they try to sell it as that? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, hydrargyrum <mkarty2007@...> wrote: > > > <Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group > SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not > others.> > > When it comes to MERCURY DETOX it doesn't work at all. > > 100% of patients who are taking it aren't eliminating more mercury. > > > -- Zurama Mickie 13yrs Round #37 15mg DMSA 15mg ALA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Ok. So NCD has questionable ingredients? ________________________________ From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> autism treatment Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 5:10:15 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD)  Educate yourself about the actual ingredients in products. S S Re: Zeolite (NCD) Posted by: " Cassie Atkins " cassieatkins@... cassieatkins Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:30 am (PST) Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Here is some interesting info on Zeolites o.O http://www.lisabarger.com/zeolite/ <http://www.lisabarger.com/zeolite/>Like most health products marketed through your friendly neighborhood MLMer, or multi-level-marketer, zeolite probably has at least a kernel of truth to it somewhere. Zeolite is used to remove toxins from water. But when inhaled, zeolite particles are also known causes of one of the deadliest forms of lung cancer—mesothelioma. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Cassie Atkins <cassieatkins@...>wrote: > > > Ok. So NCD has questionable ingredients? > > ________________________________ > From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com> > > > autism treatment <autism treatment%40> > Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 5:10:15 PM > > Subject: [ ] Re: Zeolite (NCD) > > > Educate yourself about the actual ingredients in products. > S S > > Re: Zeolite (NCD) > Posted by: " Cassie Atkins " cassieatkins@...<cassieatkins%40>cassieatkins > Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:30 am (PST) > > Wow! What conflicting views! Members at my support and therapy group SWEARS > > that NCD is a GOD SEND! I guess it may work for some but not others. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 There seems to be some people here pretty strongly against NCD. I can;t say why they are such strong view, but I can say that I have been on this list for 8 years and tried nearly everything. And NCD does help my son become more clear and calm. Why? I don't know. But it does help. As for chelators, we have done it all, including AC protocol. Which I trust and recommend. But that does NOT mean the NCD is a waste of time ot money or is not of some benefit. It is to us, so we will continue it's use. BTW, I think perhaps the reason some people don't like it is because of how it is marketed. I am not a dealer, seller, resaler, or whatever, but that seems a very poor reason to prevent people form using something that may benefit their child. Mel > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I am new to this group. I have a 24 month old dtr with ASD. We are doing > > > Biomed treatments. She has yeast issues and heavy metal issues. I was > > > wondering if someone here has tried Zeolite (NCD) on their kid. I have heard > > > great things about it. We haven't started chelation with my dtr yet but I am > > > > > sure we will in the near future once her yeast issues get better. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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