supplementation

[Guest guest]

Ben,

For the caliper you can go to

http://www.netrition.com. If you buy more than $70

from them, I think, they'll give them to you for free.

.

--- bm157@... wrote:

> Need help with supplementation. I already use

> myoplex shakes but am

> interested in the following products. Riboforce,

> Betagen, and

> Aeromax. Can anybody tell me if I could benifit

> from using these and

> if so when should I take them? I weigh 190LBS.

> would like to get

> down to 180 LBS and gain some muscle mass. I have

> no idea what my

> body fat % is. Where can you buy calipers to test

> this? I have

> checked GNC and Vitamin World and they don't carry

> them. I asked my

> Dr. how to check it and she just got a very confused

> look on her face

> and said thats not her area. O'well.

> Thanks,

>

> Ben

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Ben,

For the caliper you can go to

http://www.netrition.com. If you buy more than $70

from them, I think, they'll give them to you for free.

.

--- bm157@... wrote:

> Need help with supplementation. I already use

> myoplex shakes but am

> interested in the following products. Riboforce,

> Betagen, and

> Aeromax. Can anybody tell me if I could benifit

> from using these and

> if so when should I take them? I weigh 190LBS.

> would like to get

> down to 180 LBS and gain some muscle mass. I have

> no idea what my

> body fat % is. Where can you buy calipers to test

> this? I have

> checked GNC and Vitamin World and they don't carry

> them. I asked my

> Dr. how to check it and she just got a very confused

> look on her face

> and said thats not her area. O'well.

> Thanks,

>

> Ben

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You didn't mention what her pain levels are like. There are times where RA requires Rx pain meds. With the Sjogrens and Hep C complication, it does make for a more difficult treatment plan. Don't make the patient feel bad if they require pain meds. A combination treatment plan is the only way I can see natural methods working. I do think there is help with a combination non-Rx/Rx situation. It could potentially graduate to deleting the Rx, but I wouldn't promise the patient. My suggestion comes from personal experience in dealing with my own illness. However, I am not dx with Hep C. I've had variations of the other two dx's over the last 5 years. Here's my plan:

1. gentle scheduled exercise 5-6 days a week: Heated pool/ therapy ball/ yoga/ light weight lifting combinations. These must be rotated to avoid overuse to any joints. At times the exercise will have to be changed. Your job is to be the cheerleader. (How do you look in a little skirt?) Seriously, it's easy for this population to give up due to pain. Just keep changing their plan. Motion is essential. Explain to them that it helps to spread the synovial fluid and preserve the joints.

2. Eskimo 3 fish oil capsules. Tyler - 105 caps per bottle. Take 2 with each meal.

3. Glucosamine Sulfate - 1500-2000 mg per day Adding MSM to this formula is also ok, but not if they're already on blood thinners.

4. Avoid all glutens. Big problems with joint inflammation with RA patients and glutens.

5. Avoid refined sugar to the best of their ability.

This is a good start. I've seen sed rates and RA factor reduced with this regime.

Good luck.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 2/17/2003 9:14:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, kjholzdc@... writes:

Howdy,

I have a patient whose current medical diagnosis is autoimmune hepatitis,

Sjogren's disease and Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her MD's had her on Nalfon

for MANY years so I suspect there may not be much "autoimmune" about her

hepatitis. Anyway, she is on prescription medication including Plaquinel

(sp?) and steroids (isn't that scary?). Considering how the liver is

necessary for metabolism of prescriptive medication and non prescriptive

supplementation in order for their mechanisms of action and how liver

dysfunction can significantly alter normal medication/supplementation

action is there a SAFE non-prescriptive supplementation that can help

this dear lady. Of course, her MDs are very wary of any supplementation

and have advised her not to consider anything without their approval.

So, for the sake of discussion, what would you recommend and how? Oh

yea, and btw Dr. Jack Pedersen, you will not be allowed to resign for any

reason. Your "on the front lines" quips are like those from R.

Murrow during the blitz in London many decades ago. How do ya like that

for comparison?

Thank you. Thank you very much,

J. Holzapfel, D.C.

Albany, OR.

[Guest guest]

As I can not afford to buy everything organic and natural grass fed and

expensive fish I must supplement to get a healthy roundness to my intake. I eat

a lot of fresh fruits and veggies that sit under my refrigerator ozonator, but

they still do not have the nutrition that I need I am sure.

With the constant bombardment our bodies are experiencing on a daily basis from

food, water and air it is wise to take large amounts of vitamin C to be

consistently gently detoxing your system, and I really believe in oxygen

therapies too. And coconut oil has this result as well. I have several

favorite supplements that I add to my daily regime and feel much better for it!

I do spring and fall " housecleaning " as well with a colon and liver cleanse, it

is amazing to me how many people do this for their houses but not their bodies!

To me their is no excuse for not doing a colon cleanse because it is so easy it

can fit into anyone's schedule!

I think most people can get the RDA amounts of vitamins and minerals through

diet alone, but I really think you actually need much more than RDA value for a

huge portion of these vitamins. To me I consider supplementation to be part of a

well rounded health plan for longevity and feeling great. Caitlin Lorraine

[Guest guest]

Caitlin, I wanted to respond to a couple of your thoughts.

I take lots of supplements, but in general they are herbal or whole-food

supplements rather than individual, extracted vitamins and minerals. They are

particular plants, or food extracts, with very high levels of energy. Spices

and condiments can function in the same way. Examples include fish oil, enzymes,

probiotics, blue-green algae, schizandra, black cohosh, angelica, amalaki (very

high Vit C content), garlic, nutmeg, ginger, tamari, miso, lemon, and VCO. The

line between food and herbs/supplements/condiments is fuzzy for me.

Individual vitamins and minerals obtained through chemical extraction in my

opinion are a very unbalanced step away from real food. The concept of a

" vitamin " component is quite modern and I am not convinced the body responds to

it the way we think it should. I suspect that they shock the body much as drugs

do. Of course, they are conceived of and produced by basically the same people,

with the same methods and the same component-based worldview as the people who

produce drugs.

Natural grass-fed beef and expensive fish are not just expensive for an

individual, but they also exact a very heavy toll on our overburdened planet.

Most of the planet's deserts used to be grazing fields for domesticated animals.

Our oceans are heavily over-fished. The square acreage of desert on this planet

grows hugely every day.

I suspect that if you stick mostly to plants, you will save more money from not

needing vitamin and mineral pills than you will spend on organic vegetables.

Let's remember: coconut is a plant!

A whole-food plant-based diet gives the body an ongoing cleansing through its

water and fiber content. This can protect us against dramatic, sudden cleanses

that can actually cause harm, as may happen for example when a liver cleanse

passes a gallbladder stone that gets stuck. Colon cleanses are also very

controversial. As teachers have explained to me, the energy charge of the colon

is supposed to be downward. When you introduce upwardness into the colon

(whether water, sperm or whatever), it is very weakening of the digestive energy

and can compromise the immune system. The body is self-cleansing, you just have

to feed it clean food that digests promptly.

Just my 'umble opinions!

Nina

Re: Supplementation

As I can not afford to buy everything organic and natural grass fed and

expensive fish I must supplement to get a healthy roundness to my intake. I eat

a lot of fresh fruits and veggies that sit under my refrigerator ozonator, but

they still do not have the nutrition that I need I am sure.

With the constant bombardment our bodies are experiencing on a daily basis from

food, water and air it is wise to take large amounts of vitamin C to be

consistently gently detoxing your system, and I really believe in oxygen

therapies too. And coconut oil has this result as well. I have several

favorite supplements that I add to my daily regime and feel much better for it!

I do spring and fall " housecleaning " as well with a colon and liver cleanse, it

is amazing to me how many people do this for their houses but not their bodies!

To me their is no excuse for not doing a colon cleanse because it is so easy it

can fit into anyone's schedule!

I think most people can get the RDA amounts of vitamins and minerals through

diet alone, but I really think you actually need much more than RDA value for a

huge portion of these vitamins. To me I consider supplementation to be part of a

well rounded health plan for longevity and feeling great. Caitlin Lorraine

[Guest guest]

Ah Nina, now I understand your opinions on supplementation even better and find

that I agree on most counts. My supplements consist of similar--cod liver

oil, Superfood (algae's, wheatgrass, alfalfa, ect green mix), Life Essence

(plantbased supertonic herbs), SeaSilver wholefood drink, schizandra, milk

thistle, enzymes, humate, and just added Pollen Burst which I love. Vitamin C is

the only supplement that I take that is not whole food form. I consider herbs to

be food, but most consider them supplements.

As for colon cleanse, it is not the same as colon hydrotherapy or enemas. I

take Dr. Schultz's colon cleanse which consists of bentenonite clay, pascylim

seeds, activated willow charcoal, apple pectin and a couple of other ingredients

that I would probably mispell too, lol. It helps to vacuum the walls of the

intestinal wall of toxins, fecal matter, ect. and gives a good start to my liver

cleanse so the toxins are not trapped in the colon and reabsorbed into the body.

I also do Dr. Schultzs liver cleanse which is fully herbal. I have a lot of

liver poisioning to overcome and this is a vital step for me. Well, my husband

is home so I'm going to go spend some time with him! Caitlin Lorraine

[Guest guest]

Hi Nina,

I agree with you 100% about how our body reacts to synthetic vitamin pills.

People have been brainwashed by the vitamin-making companies that you need

mega-doses of everything. That's not how health works! Your body was not

designed to digest isolated nutrients, but to extract them from real foods.

Mega-doses of isolated nutrients are never found alone in nature, and just

won't work - you will mess up the chemical balance in your body. You need

" real foods " from mother nature, because they provide us with all the

components needed for the body to make efficient use of that food

(glucose/carbs, protein, fats/fatty acids, minerals, vitamins, enzymes,

water). If you want to take supplements, take " real food " supplements.

There are very few companies that actually understand the concept of how to

take a food and put it in a supplement form without denaturing all the

nutrients and without killing the enzymes. " Real food " (or whole food)

supplements are not chemical extracts or single elements (such as Vit. C or

E or whatever) - your body needs to " recognize " what you are giving it.

Plus, most isolated/synthetic pills on the market have added color, coal

tars, artificial preservatives, other chemicals, etc. Who wants to put that

junk in their body!!

I don't think herb supplements are considered " whole food " supplements,

because most of the time either just the root, or leaf, or stem is used -

not the whole plant. And you generally take a certain herb for a certain

problem, unlike a whole food supplement that you would take for the feeding

of healthy cells throughout the body.

Carol

-----------------------------

From: Nina Moliver <

I take lots of supplements, but in general they are herbal or whole-food

supplements rather than individual, extracted vitamins and minerals. They

are particular plants, or food extracts, with very high levels of energy.

Spices and condiments can function in the same way. Examples include fish

oil, enzymes, probiotics, blue-green algae, schizandra, black cohosh,

angelica, amalaki (very high Vit C content), garlic, nutmeg, ginger, tamari,

miso, lemon, and VCO. The line between food and

herbs/supplements/condiments is fuzzy for me.

Individual vitamins and minerals obtained through chemical extraction in my

opinion are a very unbalanced step away from real food. The concept of a

" vitamin " component is quite modern and I am not convinced the body responds

to it the way we think it should. I suspect that they shock the body much

as drugs do. Of course, they are conceived of and produced by basically the

same people, with the same methods and the same component-based worldview as

the people who produce drugs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Would you benefit from a more effective and healthy immune system?

Organic, wholefood, supplements provide nutrients essential for the

health of people, pets and plants. http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

Bee.........what is your opinion on this?

Who are the manufacturers or these items? I was never consistent taking

vitamins and now take a mulit, E, C, Evening Primrose, magensium, and calcium.

I buy all of my vitamins from NOW and take trace mineral drops and celtic sea

salt. It is the best I have felt in years and I believe it is related to

getting the candida under control and taking supplements.

If you have any suggestions on what I should take I would love to hear them.

Jeanne OTN

[Guest guest]

Hi

The probiotic you take should, hopefully, include more than acidophilus

as there are many other different strains of probiotic that you need to

keep your intestines in balance. Look for one with as many strains as

you can.

Perhaps you should be taking a good multi-vitamin and mineral to

overcome any deficiencies you may have. L-Glutamine is also helpful in

healing leaky gut.

I also take an Omega 3 supplement and magnesium (I have IBS with

constipation and it helps a lot).

Keen

Supplementation

Well, now that I have all of the right foods in the house, I need to get

right on track with my supplementation. Based on what I've read here,

and

gathered from other sources, here is my growing list of

supplements/products

that I need to add. If anyone has any suggestions, for extra

supplementation, or for a supplier (I've ordered from Pilgrim's pride

before

but am not sure if that's a good source), I appreciate it!

-Coconut oil

-Aloe vera juice (to seal leaky gut)

-Acidophilus (how much do I need?)

-B complex vitamin (I know I have a deficiency, esp. in b 12)

-Olive leaf extract

Thanks! Already this list has given me a lot of hope.

--

Point, laugh and add - come visit http://worstalbumcovers.wetpaint.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Courtenay,

> Posted by: " " courtney.writes@...

> courtknee77 Date: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:07 pm (PDT)

>

> If anyone has any

> suggestions, for extra supplementation, or for a supplier (I've

> ordered from Pilgrim's pride before but am not sure if that's a good

> source), I appreciate it!

>

Many people will remember seeing these comments before.

> -Aloe vera juice (to seal leaky gut)

Aloe Vera juice helps many people but it's very weak because it's

just watered-down aloe gel. In the USA the amount it's been

watered down does not have to be declared on the label, and " 100%

pure " only means the aloe vera gel in it was pure before they

added the 95% water.

On the other hand, aloe gel powder is rated at 100x to 200x as

potent as pure gel, so, one teaspoon can equal 200 teaspoons of

gel.

> -Coconut oil

I use and sell the world's best coconut oil, " Virgin Oil de Coco

Creme " (VOCC). It has not been exposed to heat in any phase of

extraction or drying; they use cold instead. The VOCC (unheated

oil) thus contains more of the goodness that is evaporated off by

the heat of competing operations.

Most coconut is heated quite a lot -- scorch-dried on griddles

before being expeller-pressed and then it is heated again to

remove the rest of the water. If the process used is

fermentation, the oil is skimmed from the surface and heated to

drive off the water.

The VOCC oil derived is far ahead and also far ahead of the

competition; the company offers several grades including what

they call their traditional or " virgin 2 " , which is expeller-

pressed like most products and sells for $64.95 per US gallon,

shipping included.

Distibutors may want to know there are serious price breaks that

make these products very competitive.

> -Acidophilus (how much do I need?)

The short answer to your question is that you don't need ANY

PROBIOTIC AT ALL.

The real probiotic workhorse in the bowel is NOT acidophilus or

any of the lactobacilli but bifidobacteria strains, although the

lactobacilli strains enjoy popular recognition.

As one ages, the numbers of lactobacilli in the gut population

naturally climb pretty high but so do pathogens, which shows

lactobacilli aren't that good at providing the bowel protection

attributed to probiotics. It's all explained here with

references:

http://tinyurl.com/3nxva

Your supplement, if you choose to take one, should include three

or more bifidobacteia strains and a teaspoon of inulin three or

four times daily to keep your probiotic active in the gut.

The inulin by itelf is the correct approach (without probiotic

capsules) to correct the intake DEFICIENCY of about 12 grams that

caused the bowel disorder in the first place, and to re-establish

the correct populations.

> -B complex vitamin (I know I have a deficiency, esp. in b 12)

One b-50 twice daily; some people use a b-75.

>

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hello Duncan,

Thanks for your response. So what you are saying is that I need to find an

aloe vera powder, rather than a juice? To replace a half cup for three days,

how much powder would I need?

Also, every source I have ever seen says that probiotics are necessary to

repopulate the intestine with helpful bacteria. If I'm killing off

everything with antifungals and such, shouldn't I be repopulating?

On 6/26/06, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Courtenay,

>

> > Posted by: " " courtney.writes@...

> > courtknee77 Date: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:07 pm (PDT)

> >

> > If anyone has any

> > suggestions, for extra supplementation, or for a supplier (I've

> > ordered from Pilgrim's pride before but am not sure if that's a good

> > source), I appreciate it!

> >

>

> Many people will remember seeing these comments before.

>

> > -Aloe vera juice (to seal leaky gut)

>

> Aloe Vera juice helps many people but it's very weak because it's

> just watered-down aloe gel. In the USA the amount it's been

> watered down does not have to be declared on the label, and " 100%

> pure " only means the aloe vera gel in it was pure before they

> added the 95% water.

>

> On the other hand, aloe gel powder is rated at 100x to 200x as

> potent as pure gel, so, one teaspoon can equal 200 teaspoons of

> gel.

>

> > -Coconut oil

>

> I use and sell the world's best coconut oil, " Virgin Oil de Coco

> Creme " (VOCC). It has not been exposed to heat in any phase of

> extraction or drying; they use cold instead. The VOCC (unheated

> oil) thus contains more of the goodness that is evaporated off by

> the heat of competing operations.

>

> Most coconut is heated quite a lot -- scorch-dried on griddles

> before being expeller-pressed and then it is heated again to

> remove the rest of the water. If the process used is

> fermentation, the oil is skimmed from the surface and heated to

> drive off the water.

>

> The VOCC oil derived is far ahead and also far ahead of the

> competition; the company offers several grades including what

> they call their traditional or " virgin 2 " , which is expeller-

> pressed like most products and sells for $64.95 per US gallon,

> shipping included.

>

> Distibutors may want to know there are serious price breaks that

> make these products very competitive.

>

> > -Acidophilus (how much do I need?)

>

> The short answer to your question is that you don't need ANY

> PROBIOTIC AT ALL.

>

> The real probiotic workhorse in the bowel is NOT acidophilus or

> any of the lactobacilli but bifidobacteria strains, although the

> lactobacilli strains enjoy popular recognition.

>

> As one ages, the numbers of lactobacilli in the gut population

> naturally climb pretty high but so do pathogens, which shows

> lactobacilli aren't that good at providing the bowel protection

> attributed to probiotics. It's all explained here with

> references:

> http://tinyurl.com/3nxva

>

> Your supplement, if you choose to take one, should include three

> or more bifidobacteia strains and a teaspoon of inulin three or

> four times daily to keep your probiotic active in the gut.

>

> The inulin by itelf is the correct approach (without probiotic

> capsules) to correct the intake DEFICIENCY of about 12 grams that

> caused the bowel disorder in the first place, and to re-establish

> the correct populations.

>

> > -B complex vitamin (I know I have a deficiency, esp. in b 12)

>

> One b-50 twice daily; some people use a b-75.

>

> >

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Courtenay, I just mentioned the aloe vera powder as being a better

controlled dose. A least you know what you're getting.

Here's a good source:

http://www.aloeessence.com

I can't tell you how much powder is equivalent to any aloe juice

without knowing how much unwatered aloe gel was in the juice in the

first place. Compared to straight aloe gel, you'd need 1/100 to 1/200

as much. I think Dr. Pressman recommends 1/8 tsp daily; I think you

could double that.

Duncan

> " " <courtney.writes@...> wrote:

>

> Hello Duncan,

>

> Thanks for your response. So what you are saying is that I need to

find an

> aloe vera powder, rather than a juice? To replace a half cup for

three days,

> how much powder would I need?

>

> Also, every source I have ever seen says that probiotics are

necessary to

> repopulate the intestine with helpful bacteria. If I'm killing off

> everything with antifungals and such, shouldn't I be repopulating?

>

>

>

> On 6/26/06, Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Courtenay,

> >

> > > Posted by: " " courtney.writes@...

> > > courtknee77 Date: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:07 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > > If anyone has any

> > > suggestions, for extra supplementation, or for a supplier (I've

> > > ordered from Pilgrim's pride before but am not sure if that's a

good

> > > source), I appreciate it!

> > >

> >

> > Many people will remember seeing these comments before.

> >

> > > -Aloe vera juice (to seal leaky gut)

> >

> > Aloe Vera juice helps many people but it's very weak because it's

> > just watered-down aloe gel. In the USA the amount it's been

> > watered down does not have to be declared on the label, and " 100%

> > pure " only means the aloe vera gel in it was pure before they

> > added the 95% water.

> >

> > On the other hand, aloe gel powder is rated at 100x to 200x as

> > potent as pure gel, so, one teaspoon can equal 200 teaspoons of

> > gel.

> >

> > > -Coconut oil

> >

> > I use and sell the world's best coconut oil, " Virgin Oil de Coco

> > Creme " (VOCC). It has not been exposed to heat in any phase of

> > extraction or drying; they use cold instead. The VOCC (unheated

> > oil) thus contains more of the goodness that is evaporated off by

> > the heat of competing operations.

> >

> > Most coconut is heated quite a lot -- scorch-dried on griddles

> > before being expeller-pressed and then it is heated again to

> > remove the rest of the water. If the process used is

> > fermentation, the oil is skimmed from the surface and heated to

> > drive off the water.

> >

> > The VOCC oil derived is far ahead and also far ahead of the

> > competition; the company offers several grades including what

> > they call their traditional or " virgin 2 " , which is expeller-

> > pressed like most products and sells for $64.95 per US gallon,

> > shipping included.

> >

> > Distibutors may want to know there are serious price breaks that

> > make these products very competitive.

> >

> > > -Acidophilus (how much do I need?)

> >

> > The short answer to your question is that you don't need ANY

> > PROBIOTIC AT ALL.

> >

> > The real probiotic workhorse in the bowel is NOT acidophilus or

> > any of the lactobacilli but bifidobacteria strains, although the

> > lactobacilli strains enjoy popular recognition.

> >

> > As one ages, the numbers of lactobacilli in the gut population

> > naturally climb pretty high but so do pathogens, which shows

> > lactobacilli aren't that good at providing the bowel protection

> > attributed to probiotics. It's all explained here with

> > references:

> > http://tinyurl.com/3nxva

> >

> > Your supplement, if you choose to take one, should include three

> > or more bifidobacteia strains and a teaspoon of inulin three or

> > four times daily to keep your probiotic active in the gut.

> >

> > The inulin by itelf is the correct approach (without probiotic

> > capsules) to correct the intake DEFICIENCY of about 12 grams that

> > caused the bowel disorder in the first place, and to re-establish

> > the correct populations.

> >

> > > -B complex vitamin (I know I have a deficiency, esp. in b 12)

> >

> > One b-50 twice daily; some people use a b-75.

> >

> > >

> >

> > Duncan Crow

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestions Keen! I am going to be purchasing things later

this week, so your recommendation came just in time!

On 6/25/06, Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> The probiotic you take should, hopefully, include more than acidophilus

> as there are many other different strains of probiotic that you need to

> keep your intestines in balance. Look for one with as many strains as

> you can.

>

> Perhaps you should be taking a good multi-vitamin and mineral to

> overcome any deficiencies you may have. L-Glutamine is also helpful in

> healing leaky gut.

>

> I also take an Omega 3 supplement and magnesium (I have IBS with

> constipation and it helps a lot).

>

> Keen

>

> Supplementation

>

> Well, now that I have all of the right foods in the house, I need to get

> right on track with my supplementation. Based on what I've read here,

> and

> gathered from other sources, here is my growing list of

> supplements/products

> that I need to add. If anyone has any suggestions, for extra

> supplementation, or for a supplier (I've ordered from Pilgrim's pride

> before

> but am not sure if that's a good source), I appreciate it!

>

> -Coconut oil

> -Aloe vera juice (to seal leaky gut)

> -Acidophilus (how much do I need?)

> -B complex vitamin (I know I have a deficiency, esp. in b 12)

> -Olive leaf extract

>

> Thanks! Already this list has given me a lot of hope.

>

>

>

> --

> Point, laugh and add - come visit http://worstalbumcovers.wetpaint.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all, I got this off of Autismpedia. Are these the minimum amounts of

supplements to give? Do any of you give twice a day instead of 4 X and is this

acceptable?

Also, which brand of Vitamin E do you recommend?

Thanks !

" It is necessary to administer antioxidants due to the increased oxidative

stress toxin mobilization causes. B complex, C and magnesium should be given 4

times a day, and zinc, E, carotenes, etc. at least daily. The B and C are not

effective if not given 4 times a day due to their pharmacokinetics. " [7]

Supplement Single Dosage Frequency Total Dosage

B Complex 6.25mg - 12.5 mg 4 times 25mg - 50mg

Vitamin C 250mg 4 times 1000mg

Magnesium 100mg 4 times 400mg

Zinc (w + 20) At least once (weight in lbs) + 20mg

Vitamin E 400 IU At least once Note:use d-alpha (natural) not dl-alpha

(synthetic)

Carotenes no minimum or maximum At least once Not necessary, some don't

tolerate

Reference [8]

Ala does not deplete minerals. The supplements are needed as chelation creates

oxidative stress, so the antioxidants recommended are necessary to keep the

child comfortable.[9]