Re: L-Lactate extremely high (464), who can help her?

[Guest guest]

Elva, it is nice of you to get information for your friend, but it is probably

better if you invited your friend to join us and post her questions. As far as

the test results go, an elevated result in isolation might mean little (although

that is quite high). A ratio to other elements tested would be more helpful to

anyone looking to offer advice.

Could she post the entire test? I don't even know what it is; urine? blood?

Is this a Metamatrix test?

Pam

>

> Hi,

> My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and found the

L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so high, and

how to deal with that?

>

> Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

>

> thanks

> Elva

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

sorry, but the mom is unable to speak English. She was very despaired as the

doctor in China told her the boy(autistic child) may sudden-death due to the

high l-lactate, however the doctor have no much idea how to deal with it. the

mom doesn't know who she can ask for help in China, so I help post her question

in our group.

thank you very much for your attention! I will attach the boy's whole test

result here.

Elva

> >

> > Hi,

> > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and found the

L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so high, and

how to deal with that?

> >

> > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

> >

> > thanks

> > Elva

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I posted the whole test result by clicking " Files " then " Add Files " . the file

name is " Lejian Deng-ION with 40 Amino.pdf " , many thanks!

Elva

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and found

the L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> > > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so high,

and how to deal with that?

> > >

> > > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Elva

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I hope somebody can offer some advice for you. I, unfortunately, do not

understand enough to comment. I would hope doctors in China would follow up on

these results.

The highly elevated lactate falls under the category of carbohydrate metabolism.

I wonder what inborn errors of metabolism are screened in China at birth?

Perhaps he has an undiagnosed disease/disorder?

I wish I could help more.

pam

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and found

the L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> > > > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so high,

and how to deal with that?

> > > >

> > > > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > Elva

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I am trying to find some metabolism forum and post her questions there. anyway,

thank you very much for your help!

Elva

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and

found the L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> > > > > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so

high, and how to deal with that?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > Elva

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A test result like this is almost certainly not real.

If the blood isn't cooled and processed reasonably quickly, the red blood cells

will create a very large amount of lactate.

If it was present in the blood in a living person, there would also be very high

pyruvate.

If there were some genetic disorder where lactate could not be converted to

pyruvate, the fat metabolism markers (adipate, suberate, ethylmalonate) would be

quite elevated.

The pattern of Krebs cycle metabolites also makes no sense.

I would say the test has no real meaning (this particular panel is not useful

for autistic children) and probably it is not practical to get the blood sample

from China to Georgia USA in a timely manner so as to be sure of getting a good

analysis anyway.

A hair test, or discussion of what is up with the kid, might be useful. Chasing

the lactate issue probably is not.

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

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http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

[Guest guest]

Possibly a group that talks about Mitochondrial dysfunction?  I think I

remember that a high lactate reading indicated mito issues.

nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: elva_fu <elva_fu@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: L-Lactate extremely high (464), who can help her?

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 1:12 AM

 

Pam,

I am trying to find some metabolism forum and post her questions there. anyway,

thank you very much for your help!

Elva

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and

found the L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

> > > > > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so

high, and how to deal with that?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > Elva

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

thank you very much!

Elva

>

> A test result like this is almost certainly not real.

>

> If the blood isn't cooled and processed reasonably quickly, the red blood

cells will create a very large amount of lactate.

>

> If it was present in the blood in a living person, there would also be very

high pyruvate.

>

> If there were some genetic disorder where lactate could not be converted to

pyruvate, the fat metabolism markers (adipate, suberate, ethylmalonate) would be

quite elevated.

>

> The pattern of Krebs cycle metabolites also makes no sense.

>

> I would say the test has no real meaning (this particular panel is not useful

for autistic children) and probably it is not practical to get the blood sample

from China to Georgia USA in a timely manner so as to be sure of getting a good

analysis anyway.

>

> A hair test, or discussion of what is up with the kid, might be useful.

Chasing the lactate issue probably is not.

>

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

[Guest guest]

,

many thanks for sharing the information.

Elva

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> > > > > > Hi,

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> > > > > > My friend got her 6y son's test result of " ION with 40 Amino " and

found the L-Lactate is extremely high. It is 464 but normally it should be 4~80.

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> > > > > > The mom was scared and has no idea about that. why the value is so

high, and how to deal with that?

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> > > > > >

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> > > > > > Any inputs are greatly appreciated!

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> > > > > > thanks

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