Re: Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

[Guest guest]

What does stinky urine mean? Is this a sign that the body is getting rid of the

toxins?

Thanks,

Heleen

________________________________

From: Richa <richakapoor@...>

Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 5:44:09 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

What form of Carnitine did you use? We use L-Carnitine 1000mg split twice a day.

With Carnitine we see a lot of stinky urine.

I have tried 60mg of Country Life CoQ10. But after a week or so we see the

screaming.

Thanks,

Richa.

> > > >

> > > > Dear group:

> > > > I am relatively new to the group and am trying to determine if chelation

>might help my six-year-old daughter (apraxia, cdiff, yeast, asthma, allergies,

>poor growth, intermittent fevers and canker sores, etc.). I have the cutler

book

>and it seems we do not meet the counting rules. I would love some confirmation

>on that. If that is correct, it seems antimony and arsenic are definite

>problems. I am also interested in any input on interpreting the zinc and

calcium

>levels. (I am already supplementing with zinc based on previous

>testing-Nutreval/Genova diagnostics.) Note I included the porphyrin test as

>well. It indicated potential mercury, but a relatively low overall toxicity

>level. Our dan interpreted that as mitochondrial issues rather than mercury

>(based on very recent research/papers it seems). Any advice or feedback would

be

>GREATLY appreciated. We have been doing biomedical for about a year without a

>lot of progress. We want to make sure we have the root of the problem. The

yeast

>is a big problem it seems as is constipation and asthma. She is very frail.

> > > > Thank you.

> > > > Stacey

> > > >

> > > > BELOW HAIR TEST AND PORPHYRIN TEST

> > > >

> > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> > > > element result ref range color

> > > > =============================================

> > > > aluminum 3.6 <8.0 green

> > > > antimony 0.14 <0.066 yellow

> > > > arsenic 0.13 <0.060 yellow

> > > > barium 0.15 <1.5 green

> > > > beryllium <0.01 <0.020 0

> > > > bismuth 0.13 <2.0 green

> > > > cadmium 0.019 <0.070 green

> > > > lead 0.41 <0.080 green

> > > > mercury 0.17 <0.40 green

> > > > platinum <0.003 <0.005 0

> > > > thallium <0.001 <0.002 0

> > > > thorium 0.001 <0.002 green

> > > > uranium 0.080 <0.060 yellow

> > > > nickel 0.05 <0.30 green

> > > > silver 0.03 <0.18 green

> > > > tin 0.18 <0.30 green

> > > > titanium 1.0 <0.70 yellow

> > > >

> > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> > > > element result ref range color under/over 50%

> > > > ============================================================

> > > > Calcium 97 250-800 red under

> > > > Magnesium 27 25-90 green under

> > > > Sodium 260 18-180 yellow over

> > > > Potassium 91 10-90 green over

> > > > Copper 21 11-37 green under

> > > > Zinc 300 120-220 red over

> > > > Manganese 0.28 0.08-0.60 green over

> > > > Chromium 0.47 0.40-0.65 green under

> > > > Vanadium 0.10 0.025-0.10 green over

> > > > Molybdenum 0.072 0.030-.090 green over

> > > > Boron 1.6 0.30-1.7 green over

> > > > Iodine 3.5 0.25-1.3 yellow over

> > > > Lithium 0.058 0.007-0.020 yellow over

> > > > Phosphorus 162 150-220 green under

> > > > Selenium 1.1 0.70-1.1 green over

> > > > Strontium 0.11 0.37-3.6 red under

> > > > Sulfur 53400 44000-51000 yellow over

> > > > Barium none listed

> > > > Cobalt 0.007 0.005-0.035 green under

> > > > Iron 9.1 7.0-16 green under

> > > > Germanium 0.036 0.030-0.040 green over

> > > > Rubidium 0.13 0.008-0.080 yellow over

> > > > Zirconium 0.14 0.030-0.40 green under

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > URINARY PORPHYRINS

> > > > Recent 12/11/09 ref range

> > > > up 16 21 8-20

> > > > 7cxP 3.8 3.8 2-5

> > > > 6cxP .2 .3 .5-1.5

> > > > 5cxP 4.2 4.4 2-4

> > > > pcP 16 21 5-9

> > > > cP 191 127 100-200

> > > >

> > > > URINARY PORPHYRIN RATIOS

> > > > ratios Recent 12/11/09

> > > > pcp/up 1.05 1.03

>0.2-0.5

> > > > 5pcp+pcp/up+7cp 1.0 1.0 0.3-0.6

> > > > pcp/5cp 3.9 4.8

>1.5-3

> > > > Pcp/cp 8.8 17.0

>2-6

> > > > cp/up 11.9 6.0

>6-9

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Are you getting enough water in?  When our urine is stinky it's too

concentrated.

nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: Heleen Venter <v.heleen@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 1:07 AM

 

What does stinky urine mean? Is this a sign that the body is getting rid

of the

toxins?

Thanks,

Heleen

________________________________

From: Richa <richakapoor@...>

Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 5:44:09 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

What form of Carnitine did you use? We use L-Carnitine 1000mg split twice a day.

With Carnitine we see a lot of stinky urine.

I have tried 60mg of Country Life CoQ10. But after a week or so we see the

screaming.

Thanks,

Richa.

> > > >

> > > > Dear group:

> > > > I am relatively new to the group and am trying to determine if chelation

>might help my six-year-old daughter (apraxia, cdiff, yeast, asthma, allergies,

>poor growth, intermittent fevers and canker sores, etc.). I have the cutler

book

>and it seems we do not meet the counting rules. I would love some confirmation

>on that. If that is correct, it seems antimony and arsenic are definite

>problems. I am also interested in any input on interpreting the zinc and

calcium

>levels. (I am already supplementing with zinc based on previous

>testing-Nutreval/Genova diagnostics.) Note I included the porphyrin test as

>well. It indicated potential mercury, but a relatively low overall toxicity

>level. Our dan interpreted that as mitochondrial issues rather than mercury

>(based on very recent research/papers it seems). Any advice or feedback would

be

>GREATLY appreciated. We have been doing biomedical for about a year without a

>lot of progress. We want to make sure we have the root of the problem. The

yeast

>is a big problem it seems as is constipation and asthma. She is very frail.

> > > > Thank you.

> > > > Stacey

> > > >

> > > > BELOW HAIR TEST AND PORPHYRIN TEST

> > > >

> > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> > > > element result ref range color

> > > > =============================================

> > > > aluminum 3.6 <8.0 green

> > > > antimony 0.14 <0.066 yellow

> > > > arsenic 0.13 <0.060 yellow

> > > > barium 0.15 <1.5 green

> > > > beryllium <0.01 <0.020 0

> > > > bismuth 0.13 <2.0 green

> > > > cadmium 0.019 <0.070 green

> > > > lead 0.41 <0.080 green

> > > > mercury 0.17 <0.40 green

> > > > platinum <0.003 <0.005 0

> > > > thallium <0.001 <0.002 0

> > > > thorium 0.001 <0.002 green

> > > > uranium 0.080 <0.060 yellow

> > > > nickel 0.05 <0.30 green

> > > > silver 0.03 <0.18 green

> > > > tin 0.18 <0.30 green

> > > > titanium 1.0 <0.70 yellow

> > > >

> > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> > > > element result ref range color under/over 50%

> > > > ============================================================

> > > > Calcium 97 250-800 red under

> > > > Magnesium 27 25-90 green under

> > > > Sodium 260 18-180 yellow over

> > > > Potassium 91 10-90 green over

> > > > Copper 21 11-37 green under

> > > > Zinc 300 120-220 red over

> > > > Manganese 0.28 0.08-0.60 green over

> > > > Chromium 0.47 0.40-0.65 green under

> > > > Vanadium 0.10 0.025-0.10 green over

> > > > Molybdenum 0.072 0.030-.090 green over

> > > > Boron 1.6 0.30-1.7 green over

> > > > Iodine 3.5 0.25-1.3 yellow over

> > > > Lithium 0.058 0.007-0.020 yellow over

> > > > Phosphorus 162 150-220 green under

> > > > Selenium 1.1 0.70-1.1 green over

> > > > Strontium 0.11 0.37-3.6 red under

> > > > Sulfur 53400 44000-51000 yellow over

> > > > Barium none listed

> > > > Cobalt 0.007 0.005-0.035 green under

> > > > Iron 9.1 7.0-16 green under

> > > > Germanium 0.036 0.030-0.040 green over

> > > > Rubidium 0.13 0.008-0.080 yellow over

> > > > Zirconium 0.14 0.030-0.40 green under

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > URINARY PORPHYRINS

> > > > Recent 12/11/09 ref range

> > > > up 16 21 8-20

> > > > 7cxP 3.8 3.8 2-5

> > > > 6cxP .2 .3 .5-1.5

> > > > 5cxP 4.2 4.4 2-4

> > > > pcP 16 21 5-9

> > > > cP 191 127 100-200

> > > >

> > > > URINARY PORPHYRIN RATIOS

> > > > ratios Recent 12/11/09

> > > > pcp/up 1.05 1.03

>0.2-0.5

> > > > 5pcp+pcp/up+7cp 1.0 1.0 0.3-0.6

> > > > pcp/5cp 3.9 4.8

>1.5-3

> > > > Pcp/cp 8.8 17.0

>2-6

> > > > cp/up 11.9 6.0

>6-9

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm not chelating my son at the moment, only supplementing (spirulina as well)

and cutting the food which he is allergic to. He's hearing sensitivity, his

moods and sleeping pattern improved tremendously. I don't know what gunpowder

smells like and it hard to explain to you. After the weekend it smells a lot

better.

Thanks

Heleen

________________________________

From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

autism treatment

Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 6:08:54 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Hi Heleen,

It varies, some supplements or foods (like asparagus and others) can cause this

but so can detox. Is the person chelating? Can you describe the smell? I

had what I described as gunpowder smell early in the chelation process and

believe that was the body getting rid of toxins.

S S

Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Posted by: " Heleen Venter " v.heleen@... v.heleen

Thu Jul 8, 2010 1:08 am (PDT)

What does stinky urine mean? Is this a sign that the body is getting rid of the

toxins?

Thanks,

Heleen

[Guest guest]

Gun powder smells like sort of like sulfur

nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: Heleen Venter <v.heleen@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 2:19 AM

 

Hi

I'm not chelating my son at the moment, only supplementing (spirulina as well)

and cutting the food which he is allergic to. He's hearing sensitivity, his

moods and sleeping pattern improved tremendously. I don't know what gunpowder

smells like and it hard to explain to you. After the weekend it smells a lot

better.

Thanks

Heleen

________________________________

From: Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

autism treatment

Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 6:08:54 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Hi Heleen,

It varies, some supplements or foods (like asparagus and others) can cause this

but so can detox. Is the person chelating? Can you describe the smell? I

had what I described as gunpowder smell early in the chelation process and

believe that was the body getting rid of toxins.

S S

Re: new-hoping for results/chelation feedback

Posted by: " Heleen Venter " v.heleen@... v.heleen

Thu Jul 8, 2010 1:08 am (PDT)

What does stinky urine mean? Is this a sign that the body is getting rid of the

toxins?

Thanks,

Heleen