Re: How to approach parents about biomedical during open house tonight????

[Guest guest]

I stopped trying. Most will say " My doctor says.... "

It is very sad. I see my boy in a class where he is the only one making

progress, I think mainly because he is the only one in the class who is

chelating. You would think they would jump at something that could help their

child, but they don't. Can't explain it.

TJ

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From: zurama <autismtookmickie@...>

Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 10:39:43 AM

Subject: [ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

house tonight????

 

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet tall

babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

Zurama

[Guest guest]

All I do if asked is say when out " change " happened and how and I have a

business card if you want it.

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[ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

house tonight????

 

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet tall

babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

Zurama

[Guest guest]

Hello TJ

It is the same here with us, though my child hasn't achieved the results I

expect and we have not started chelating yet, my kid is one who has done small,

continuous steps forward w biomed. Parents ask what it is about, once I mention

what a proper diet and biomed involves and the dedication it takes, they just

say: " that's too difficult for me " !!!

My conclusion: they are TOO lazy, which is sad, given the short time span for

a kid to enjoy feeling better and keeping up to date with today's fast chaging

educational demands.

Isa

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[ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

house tonight????

 

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet tall

babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

Zurama

[Guest guest]

Oh my Gosh TJ!!! That's just what my mother just said. lol!

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:06 PM, <isaguzmandiaz2@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello TJ

> It is the same here with us, though my child hasn't achieved the results I

> expect and we have not started chelating yet, my kid is one who has done

> small, continuous steps forward w biomed. Parents ask what it is about, once

> I mention what a proper diet and biomed involves and the dedication it

> takes, they just say: " that's too difficult for me " !!!

> My conclusion: they are TOO lazy, which is sad, given the short time span

> for a kid to enjoy feeling better and keeping up to date with today's fast

> chaging educational demands.

> Isa

>

>

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

> [ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during

> open

> house tonight????

>

>

> Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

>

> wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

> students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking

> to

> the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

>

> I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

> acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had

> autism.

> She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at

> which

> time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted

> from

> then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He

> looked

> stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so

> that

> he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not

> want to

> hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

>

>

> I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet

> tall

> babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

>

> anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

>

> Zurama

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Isa, we hear the same thing. It takes too much work to do the diet, its too

expensive, I dont want to deprive my kid. Ive received more than a few dirty

looks when Ive said that the only things Im depriving my kid of are chronic

constipation, constant meltdowns, rigid behaviors, etc. He seems pretty happy

for a deprived kid.

Karla

>

> Hello TJ

> It is the same here with us, though my child hasn't achieved the results I

expect and we have not started chelating yet, my kid is one who has done small,

continuous steps forward w biomed. Parents ask what it is about, once I mention

what a proper diet and biomed involves and the dedication it takes, they just

say: " that's too difficult for me " !!!

> My conclusion: they are TOO lazy, which is sad, given the short time span

for a kid to enjoy feeling better and keeping up to date with today's fast

chaging educational demands.

> Isa

>

>

> Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel

>

> [ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

> house tonight????

>

>  

> Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

> wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

> students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

> the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

>

> I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

> acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had

autism.

> She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

> time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted

from

> then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

> stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so

that

> he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want

to

> hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

>

>

> I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet

tall

> babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

> anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

>

> Zurama

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My advice and the way I approach this situation (and I am a TACA coordinator so

this comes up all the time).......I ask, " Are you implementing any interventions

for your child? "   Then I listen to what they are doing, if anything and chat

for a minute about that info.  After they tell me that info, then I ask, " have

you ever tested for allergies or food sensitivities because docs are finding

that a great percentage of our kids have food sensitivities and allergies? "   I

can tell by their answer to this specific question if I should even go further

with the " food " and " diet " discussion.  I have found that folks who aren't

interested in the " diet " thing will poo poo the testing.  If they tell me no

but ask any questions about the testing, what or why, then that's my open door

to discuss it.

nancy j.

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From: zurama <autismtookmickie@...>

Subject: [ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

house tonight????

Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 10:39 AM

 

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like

I wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet tall

babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

Zurama

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I feel like I'm the only one crazy " trying " to do anything. If someone

(like a DR) isn't there telling them, it seems like nothing coming from me. I

can not even get through to my family on the vaccine thing. My parents both

went and got their flu shot. I GIVE UP!

Tammy

[ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during open

house tonight????

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had

autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted

from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so

that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want

to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet

tall

babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

Zurama

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean, but this hasn't worked out for us ever. Even when people

have asked me what we did after seeing our son's gains, they either tune me out

or argue with me when I have told them anything about biomed.

If you are serious about spreading the word, I would get a local autism

association or school or group to host a guest speaker who could speak as an

expert on the subject and take questions.

Maggied.

>

> Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

>

> I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

>

> I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet

tall babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

>

> Zurama

>

[Guest guest]

I am quiet but if I KNOW something, I do not hold back when I tell someone. For

example, I stuck a note in a backpack one time when I was working as a teacher's

aide with this boy. I noticed he was side-glancing and I knew Vitamin A helps

with this problem. I had to write the note, it felt like an ethical obligation.

I don't address complete strangers other than holding my " flu shots contain

mercury " and other signs in public. I do get to know other moms with children

with problems and I usually know a lot that can help them. What is sad is that

a lot of the parents of children with autism are mentally ill and that is hard

to deal with. Now that I have chelated myself, I am in a position to talk about

the things I did to help myself as well. People seem interested in what I have

done.

>

> Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach then.

>

> I seemed to recognize one of them them, from years ago. His parents were

acquaintances of my ex-husband and I had to tell his mother that he had autism.

She got really upset with me and didn't speak to me for seven months, at which

time I got a call from her letting me know that I was right, then she acted from

then on as if she was the expert. I hear that he is on Psych meds. He looked

stoned and his t shirt was inside out. He had to be guided by two aids, so that

he would go where he was supposed to go. So his mom will most likely not want to

hear it, but others might. It's a shame, because he is a beautiful boy.

>

> I looked around and just gasped! How do the parents deal with these 6 feet

tall babies with aggressive behaviors? Maybe I should mind my own business, but,

anyways, if anyone has ideas, let me know.

>

> Zurama

>

[Guest guest]

I hear you. Me too. I feel very ineffective.

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Re: [ ] How to approach parents about biomedical

during open house tonight????

Yeah, I feel like I'm the only one crazy " trying " to do anything. If

someone (like a DR) isn't there telling them, it seems like nothing coming

from me. I can not even get through to my family on the vaccine thing. My

parents both went and got their flu shot. I GIVE UP!

Tammy

[ ] How to approach parents about biomedical during

open

house tonight????

Tonight is open house at Mickie school. Every student has autism and like

I

wrote to the list a few weeks ago, when I had to pick him up. Many of the

students seemed very tormented and upset and I wanted to see about talking

to

the other parents about biomedical, but I'm not sure how to approach t

[Guest guest]

My son only became disciplined on his own accord, when I put him on a special

diet and chelated him. I had very little to do with it, other than being

consistent on trying to reinforce " the rules " .

>

> Zurama,

>

> Yes, how are they going to deal with them when they are over six feet tall?!

>

> I have never allowed my son's disability to be an excuse for bad behavior.

> When I would discipline him when he was little, my mom would feel sorry for

> him and say, " Don't scold him. Don't discipline him. " ( I used removing

> privileges, time outs, and corporal punishment as a last resort (one pop on

> the outside of the thigh) only for aggressive behavior when he hit, bit, or

> kicked me. My mom would have just let him be wild. I said to her, " Hey,

> should he learn it now while he is three feet tall, or should I wait until

> he is six foot five like the doctor predicts he will be? "

>

> The time to teach acceptable behavior is when ALL children are little.

>

>

>