Re: Hair analysis four years later and WORSE please advise!

[Guest guest]

[Please ignore previous post... two hair tests were posted at the same

time and I substituted.]

There is a low probability of mineral transport derangement. However,

the elevated nickel in the presence of _not_ meeting the counting rules

adds to this probability, as does the low lithium.

So I'd have to say the chances that there is derangement are there.

The aluminum and copper are significant, but could be an artifact of

mercury.

How are you supplementing? How are you chelating (dose, chelator, body

weight)? What have you done to eliminate current exposure to

aluminum and copper? Are you giving a multi that has copper?

Please provide a link to the first test, which I cannot find.

Hair tests CAN be useful during chelation. They should not however be

used to determine when to STOP chelation.

astroeater2003 wrote:

>

> Could someone look at our hair test? I'm aware that it is not

> recommended to have a hair analysis while chelating but it has been

> four years since the last one. So, I decided to have it done.

>

> It looks a lot WORSE than it did four years ago and I'm trying not to

> get to frustrated and freaked out. He didn't meet the counting rules

> on the first test we did when he was barely two but decided to go

> ahead and chelate.

>

> Can someone please help me? We are on round 29 with minimal

> improvement. We are following Andy's protocol.

>

> Both of his hair analysis are in the files. The most recent being:

> Bidlovski, Milo (4-5-10).pdf

>

> THANK YOU!

>

> JEN

>

>

[Guest guest]

Micheal...thank you. Okay, I just downloaded it again Hair Analysis 1.PDF

Milo's Hair Elements 2004.

He is not taking a multi right now so I have no idea how the copper got there.

He is on 12.5 ala/dmsa 3/11.

Vit C, E, D3, Biotin, GSE, B6, sel, chrom, pot, molyb, mag, & milk thistle.

3-4x/day according to weight. He's 6 and about 55 lbs.

> >

> > Could someone look at our hair test? I'm aware that it is not

> > recommended to have a hair analysis while chelating but it has been

> > four years since the last one. So, I decided to have it done.

> >

> > It looks a lot WORSE than it did four years ago and I'm trying not to

> > get to frustrated and freaked out. He didn't meet the counting rules

> > on the first test we did when he was barely two but decided to go

> > ahead and chelate.

> >

> > Can someone please help me? We are on round 29 with minimal

> > improvement. We are following Andy's protocol.

> >

> > Both of his hair analysis are in the files. The most recent being:

> > Bidlovski, Milo (4-5-10).pdf

> >

> > THANK YOU!

> >

> > JEN

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The 2004 test meets counting rule #4 (11 bars in the middle--Cr and K

are graphed incorrectly by the software) so there was definitlely some

mineral transport derangement back then. I would definitely not say the

latest test is " worse " than this.

I don't see zinc on your list. This could account for the copper

elevation, and is essential during chelation.

Quantities of each supplement would help.

As well most of the Bs are missing.

astroeater2003 wrote:

>

>

> Micheal...thank you. Okay, I just downloaded it again Hair Analysis 1.PDF

> Milo's Hair Elements 2004.

>

> He is not taking a multi right now so I have no idea how the copper

> got there.

> He is on 12.5 ala/dmsa 3/11.

>

> Vit C, E, D3, Biotin, GSE, B6, sel, chrom, pot, molyb, mag, & milk

> thistle.

>

> 3-4x/day according to weight. He's 6 and about 55 lbs.

>

>

> > >

> > > Could someone look at our hair test? I'm aware that it is not

> > > recommended to have a hair analysis while chelating but it has been

> > > four years since the last one. So, I decided to have it done.

> > >

> > > It looks a lot WORSE than it did four years ago and I'm trying not to

> > > get to frustrated and freaked out. He didn't meet the counting rules

> > > on the first test we did when he was barely two but decided to go

> > > ahead and chelate.

> > >

> > > Can someone please help me? We are on round 29 with minimal

> > > improvement. We are following Andy's protocol.

> > >

> > > Both of his hair analysis are in the files. The most recent being:

> > > Bidlovski, Milo (4-5-10).pdf

> > >

> > > THANK YOU!

> > >

> > > JEN

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Also check www.danasview.net/metals for sources of copper (pool chemicals,

copper plumbing pipes, various foods, etc).

S S

Re: Hair analysis four years later and WORSE please advise!

Posted by: " Ross " mrossgrp@... neoplop

Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:11 pm (PDT)

The 2004 test meets counting rule #4 (11 bars in the middle--Cr and K

are graphed incorrectly by the software) so there was definitlely some

mineral transport derangement back then. I would definitely not say the

latest test is " worse " than this.

I don't see zinc on your list. This could account for the copper

elevation, and is essential during chelation.

Quantities of each supplement would help.

As well most of the Bs are missing.

[Guest guest]

I'm not surprised it's worse because you have only done 29 rounds. When were

these rounds done - more recently or back then? I would take this as a sign

that chelation is working and he is pushing out the metals.

Lithium - what is his behavior like? If he has a lot of ups and downs (as mine

did with low off the charts lithium), I would suggest small doses of lithium

orotate until the behavior improves. (shouldn't take long).

Cal/Mag - I would give small amounts of these. I give cal/mag/vit D powder (NOW

brand) in a smoothie with blueberries and bananas. Taurine might help the

magnesium absorb.

Na/K - make sure he is able to get some good sea salt in him and adrenal cortex

extract if he seems tired/irritable a lot.

Selenium - supplement Selenimethionine.

Aluminum - I would give a couple different kinds of magnesium if you can, it is

so important that it is bioavailable for the aluminum to go down and get out.

Lead - DMSA chelation.

Copper - I would avoid ALA for awhile and just do DMSA. Supplement zinc if you

aren't.

That's what I'd do.

>

> Could someone look at our hair test? I'm aware that it is not recommended to

have a hair analysis while chelating but it has been four years since the last

one. So, I decided to have it done.

>

> It looks a lot WORSE than it did four years ago and I'm trying not to get to

frustrated and freaked out. He didn't meet the counting rules on the first test

we did when he was barely two but decided to go ahead and chelate.

>

> Can someone please help me? We are on round 29 with minimal improvement. We

are following Andy's protocol.

>

> Both of his hair analysis are in the files. The most recent being: Bidlovski,

Milo (4-5-10).pdf

>

>

> THANK YOU!

>

> JEN

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will take your advice and just chelate w/ dmsa for awhile and add

those supplements. Thanks again for the feedback. I really appreciate it. I get

so confused because he didn't regress he was born this way and I have to wonder

if I'm on the right track w/ chelation. I'm sure he has some viral issues which

I have yet to address. His titers are normal except for varicella which is way

out of range. But he is always very low in arginine and very high in lysine and

off the chart sulfate. Anyway, 4 years into biomed and I still feel I don't

know what the hell I'm doing. Thanks again.

> >

> > Could someone look at our hair test? I'm aware that it is not recommended to

have a hair analysis while chelating but it has been four years since the last

one. So, I decided to have it done.

> >

> > It looks a lot WORSE than it did four years ago and I'm trying not to get to

frustrated and freaked out. He didn't meet the counting rules on the first test

we did when he was barely two but decided to go ahead and chelate.

> >

> > Can someone please help me? We are on round 29 with minimal improvement. We

are following Andy's protocol.

> >

> > Both of his hair analysis are in the files. The most recent being:

Bidlovski, Milo (4-5-10).pdf

> >

> >

> > THANK YOU!

> >

> > JEN

> >

>