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nature038 " <nature038@y...> wrote:

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> Exactly same thing here in the middle east. I could not find

> nystatin powder. As I reseached the net and Bee's support group and

> curezone, I found that the best source of nystatin powder is Paddock

labs of 1,000,000 units/gram (that's the effective dose). Any

> valounteer to purchase the Paddock lab a million units and send to

> us (Matt and myslef). I need three months supply? I have tried evry

> natural antifungal and would like to combine with nystatin powder.

Hi there (what is your name?). You might get a better response to your

request by putting in a better Subject line, i.e. Volunteer to purchase

Nystatin Please?.

Bee

P.S. Could you please trim your messages - see our " Group Info " Folder

for how to do it. Thanks my friend.

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How can you tell if this powder at Costco is for oral use or not?

> Hello everyone,

>

> I was sent the following email telling about the high

> markup of prescription drugs (up to 3000%) and that

> Costco was offering their drugs at a reduced price

> (just above cost, I believe). We do not have a Costco

> in our area, but they do have a mail order

> prescription service, so I will be using that to order

> any prescriptions we

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I was under the impression that all Nystatin powder

was safe for oral use. You might want to give their

pharmacy a call and ask them.

--- barb1283 <bbw@...> wrote:

> How can you tell if this powder at Costco is for

> oral use or not?

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shelleypaul1 wrote:

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> My doctor gave me Nystatin pills. Are they going to be as effective

as > the powder? If I understand correctly, the antifungals kill the

> candida, but I must also take probiotics to replenish the good

> bacteria. I have been on 2M level probiotics for 3 weeks, and I am

> also taking Cleansesmart, Fibersmart, and Candigone from RenewLife.

> How long should it take to kill the Candida with the antifungal?

==>Hi there. Welcome to our group. The candida diet in my

article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " is the most important

thing you can do to get rid of candida. It takes time for the body to

heal and build up the immune system so it can keep candida in check.

You can't rush the body. If you do candida will return again and

again. Although nystatin will help kill off candida it is equally

important to cut off candida's food supply and eliminate damaging

foods, i.e. sugar, bad oils & fats, high carbs, grains, beans, nuts,

processed foods, soy, etc.

Hering's law of cures states that it takes one month of natural healing

for every year you've been unwell. The timing starts once you have

totally integrated the candida diet into your daily routine. Our

approach is a step by step approach: 1) diet which is high protein and

high good fats such as coconut oil, butter, lard, etc. and low carbs,

2) antifungals such as garlic or oil of oregano, and 3) probiotics is

added last.

Unfortunately, there are no quick fixes. Doctors are not knowledgeable

about candida nor diets and nutrition, and they mistakenedly believe

you can.

Fibre is not all that it's made out to be, in fact it damages the

intestines - see the article on Fibre in our Files. Cleanses are also

very hard on the body releasing too many toxins at one time. The diet

we recommend will do all the cleansing, detoxifying, chelating, etc.

that is required on a more gradual basis, and build up the body at the

same time.

Our diet is different than others out there. It is designed to harness

the body's powerful healing mechanisms and build up your immune

system. After you've had a chance to read our files please get back to

us with questions.

The best in health to you,

Bee

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>Thank you for your response. I guess that i should have mentioned

that have have been on the correct diet for over a year now. I do not

eat any wheat,corn, sugar, vinegar products, and my diet consists soley

of coconut oil, almonds,egge, chicken, turkey, fish not shellfishe,

leafy green vegetables, onions., cabbage, garlic, shallots, celery and

that is about it. I do not even eat artificial sweeteners or diet

drinks or coffee. Only water! I am doing everything right ncluding

taking probiotics, a natural anti fungal and a fiber supplement with

flaxseed not physillium. I don't think you can just starve the yeast.

I am living proof, and I can assure you that you have not met mnay

people with the will power I have to stay on this diet. I am going

crazy though, I can't eat like this forever. protein

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> Are Nystatin pills (mine are red) coated with anything that is bad

for candida? Sugar?

==>Some nystatin pills do contain sugar nowadays, which I do not

understand. Nystatin powder is best, but be sure your pharmacist knows

not to give you the powder intended for external use only. IMO raw

crushed garlic is better than nystatin but the powder is more versatile

in some ways than garlic.

Bee

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In a message dated 10/30/2005 6:20:45 A.M. Central Standard Time,

writes:

Subject: Nystatin

Does Nystatin cause constipation normally?

Every antibiotic and anti-fungal seems to cause my bowels to come to a halt.

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> Is nystatin available in australia as a prescription drug only???

==>I'm not sure, but call a pharmacy to find out. If you have to get a

perscription be sure to copy the article on it in our files, for both

the doctor and pharmacist because the wrong kind can get dispensed too

easily. Also, if you get the pill it must be without any sugar in it.

Bee

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> I have been doing this since April and don't seem to be making any

> improvement, so I would like to try Nystatin. I know my doctor will

> not believe me ( I have candida), and it will be like pulling teeth

to get a Rx from her.

==>Deb, the reason you are not getting improvement is because your diet

or supplements are off, somehow. Re-check your diet and the

supplements carefully before you try nystatin. Other antifungals are

better, i.e. raw garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil (take only one).

Change every 8-10 months. Also you should be on probiotics by now.

They are extremely important along with the rest of the program. It

all works together so you can't leave anything out.

>

> 1. Has anyone else tried it with success?

Yes, I have. I took nystatin powder for 2 1/2 years during my candida

cure. But be careful about what you get. Many doctors and even

pharmacist don't have a clue and they'll dispense the wrong thing; it

must be free of sugar and not for topical use only which will contain

talcum powder - read the Nystatin information in the Antifungal Folder

first, and get the right doses.

>

> 2. Should I ask for the liquid or tablet?

Pure powder is best; mix it in water to take it, but it tastes

horrible. Both the liquid and tablets nowadays contain sugar.

Luv, Bee

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> Does anyone know why Drs. are so reluctant to prescribe this? So far,

two of my Drs. have declined writing an Rx for this. Ugh. I have taken

it before (10 yrs ago), I don't know why this is so difficult!

Dear . I remember one member reporting that her doctor said " my

profession does not believe candida exists. " Doctors are running

scared from the medical association, and it is almost impossible to

prove a person has candida with any medical tests. Doctor used to do a

clinical evaluation, meaning they talked to you to find out about your

symptoms, lifestyle, eating habits, etc. Now they can only perscribe

on the basis of tests.

I think that natural antifungals are better, i.e. oil of oregano, raw

crushed " certified organic " garlic, or clove oil; one of those in

addition to coconut oil (5-6 tbl per day) and Pau D'Arco Tea and you

are all set. But it is extremely important to stick to the diet, and

take all of the supplements; deviations will not get the same results

and it will cause more symptoms. Doublecheck your entire diet and all

of your supplements, and do ensure you are not taking any extra stuff.

Luv, Bee

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> My doctor gave me a rx for Nystatin. Wondering if anyone else has

> taken this, if so what results did you have? I have taken only 2

> doses and it seems like the itching is getting worse, could this be

> possible? I have been on the diet etc since April and have not been

> making any progress. Thanks

Hi Deb. I hope you make certain you got the right kind per our

Nystatin article in the Antifungal Folder? I took nystatin powder for

2 1/2 when I cured my candida back in the mid 1980s.

Yes, it would increase itching because it is killing off candida which

puts out more toxins that the body has to deal with. Itching is caused

by histamines produced by the immune system to deal with toxins.

What is your definition of progress, because 6 months isn't long enough

to expect a lot. Progress is dependent upon how sick you were, what

other complications you had, your age, your nutritional status from

your parents upon conception, how long you've had candida and/or how

long you've been healthy, your digestion, how bad your malnutrition

was, and many other factors. I was on the diet for 6 months before

starting on antifungals and I went through a horrible healing crisis

for several months after that. It was about 1 year and 9 months into

the program that I started detoxifying through my eyes, which lasted 3

months. I'd never had problems with my eyes before, so I assume the

body detoxed through my healthiest oriface. lol!

The best, Bee

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---I bet I do not have the right thing. My doctor gave me tablets to

take one three times per day. Is this going to do more harm than

good? I am still taking the oil of oregeno with it.

Deb

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> ---I bet I do not have the right thing. My doctor gave me tablets to

> take one three times per day. Is this going to do more harm than

> good? I am still taking the oil of oregeno with it.

Deb, many nystatin tablets nowadays contain sugar; doublecheck them.

Bee

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I remember one member reporting that her doctor said " my

> profession does not believe candida exists. "

--> I had this very think happen to me today. So, so frustrating -- I

just felt like crying. Even worse, he told me that it was all in my

head. But, he was willing to write me a 1 month prescription for

Nystatin, so I gritted my teeth. Anyhow, I am wondering if anyone

knows whether the oral suspension nystatin will reach candida/fungal

infection in the sinus/eye area.

Also, if someone knows of an alternative-minded physician in the

LA/Orange County area and would be willing to email me, that would be

so greatly appreciated.

Many thanks for such an excellent and active group, Bee. It has been

very helpful as I have tried to suffer through die-off, etc.

Best,

> >

> > Does anyone know why Drs. are so reluctant to prescribe this? So far,

> two of my Drs. have declined writing an Rx for this. Ugh. I have taken

> it before (10 yrs ago), I don't know why this is so difficult!

>

> Dear . I remember one member reporting that her doctor said " my

> profession does not believe candida exists. " Doctors are running

> scared from the medical association, and it is almost impossible to

> prove a person has candida with any medical tests. Doctor used to do a

> clinical evaluation, meaning they talked to you to find out about your

> symptoms, lifestyle, eating habits, etc. Now they can only perscribe

> on the basis of tests.

>

> I think that natural antifungals are better, i.e. oil of oregano, raw

> crushed " certified organic " garlic, or clove oil; one of those in

> addition to coconut oil (5-6 tbl per day) and Pau D'Arco Tea and you

> are all set. But it is extremely important to stick to the diet, and

> take all of the supplements; deviations will not get the same results

> and it will cause more symptoms. Doublecheck your entire diet and all

> of your supplements, and do ensure you are not taking any extra stuff.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

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> Does anyone

> know of the drug companies that make the powder for internal yeast

> (not external use)? The pharmacy does not want to be of any help.

Hi Deb,

There is detailed info in the files about Nystatin. It's in the

Antifungal Treatments file. The address for the company that makes the

correct kind of powder for internal use is in that file. Print it out

and take it to your pharmacist so they can order it for you.

You're right to go for the powder for, some folks are reporting that

the tablet form has a sweetener in it...the liquid definitely is

sweetened and NOT recommended.

hth,

jackie

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>From: " nicole " <nicolezajack@...>

>Anyhow, I am wondering if anyone

>knows whether the oral suspension nystatin will reach candida/fungal

>infection in the sinus/eye area.

>Best,

>

Hi ,

The oral suspension nystatin is loaded with sugar and therefore not

recommended on this program. Bee suggests that the powder form be used.

Shirley

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> I remember one member reporting that her doctor said " my

> > profession does not believe candida exists. "

>

> --> I had this very think happen to me today. So, so frustrating --

I just felt like crying. Even worse, he told me that it was all in my

> head. But, he was willing to write me a 1 month prescription for

> Nystatin, so I gritted my teeth. Anyhow, I am wondering if anyone

> knows whether the oral suspension nystatin will reach candida/fungal

> infection in the sinus/eye area.

==>Most nystatin suspension and tablets contain sugar, like Shirley

said. I recommend the right kind of powder. Often doctors and

pharmacists don't dispense the right kind; it must be for internal

use and not for external use only which contains talcum powder.

Please read the Nystatin article in the antifungal folder for

details. But I still believe that natural antifungals are better

than nystatin, i.e. raw crushed garlic, oil of oregano and clove oil

(you only need one at a time in addition to coconut oil and Pau

D'Arco tea).

>

> Also, if someone knows of an alternative-minded physician in the

> LA/Orange County area and would be willing to email me, that would

be so greatly appreciated.

==>I suggest you write another message with a subject line asking

other members for help.

> Many thanks for such an excellent and active group, Bee. It has been

> very helpful as I have tried to suffer through die-off, etc.

==>You are so very welcome !

Luv & Hugs, Bee

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> I am taking Nystatin along with the other items on the list. I just

heard a program, put on by Dr. from Snellville Georgia. They

were taking about yeast infections and said that Nystatin changes the

cell wall and in the long run causes more harm then good. Wondering

what everyone else thinks about this statement.

==>I assume he meant " body cell walls " and not candida cell walls or

he wouldn't have said it causes more harm than good. I believe

natural treatments are better than Nystatin but I did take it for 2

1/2 years without any ill effects that I know of.

Bee

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> Bee

> I have just come upon your excellent site after intermittent candida

> over several years. My naturopath/GP has had me on nystatin for

> several weeks, as well as a 2 month stint mid-late last year which

> only had positive effect for about a month. I am wondering whether I

> should continue on the nystatin while I follow your steps 1 nd 2, or

> discontinue and resume. My symptoms would be described as mild-

> moderate rather than severe.

==>Hi R. Welcome to our group. It would help our blind member,

Maddalena, more if you use a complete name at the end of your

messages, even if you make one up. Thanks so much.

==>You should be fine contining on the nystatin while you start on

steps 1 & 2. You can cut back or stop it if you get too much die-off.

The best in health, Bee

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On May 1, 2007, at 4:20 PM, ectopistes@... wrote:

> Zookee, it was several years ago I read about the nystatin so don't

> remember where I found it. I know that it does not help everyone and

> candida can become resistant to it just like it can to everything

> else.

> Probably Duncan can answer that because what I do recall said

> something

> about it being a " typical " problem with statin type drugs?

FYI - Nystatin is not a " statin " type drug. It's named after New York

State, where it was discovered. The statin drugs are used to lower

cholesterol.

Mike

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> Hi all,

>

> I have been on Nystatin for a week now and it seems to be really

> affecting my digestive system could this be a result of the candida

> dying off? I have had candida for years appearing as thrush and have

a fungus infection in my finger nails and toenails. Anyone got any

hints for dealing with the digestive problems?

==>Hi Sophie. Yes Nystatin kills off candida so it will create a lot

of detoxifying and die-off symptoms. When candida is killed off it

puts out carbon dioxide (gas) which causes digestive disturbances and

bloating. The toxins will cause the body to create more mucus in order

to get rid of them as well. For more help with digestion see our Group'

s Files and look for the " C) Digestion Folder.

==>You could also cut back on the amount of Nystatin so your symptoms

are more tolerable, and only gradually increase it.

Bee

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> Hi Bee,

>

> After being on Nystatin for over 3 months, I would like to stop and

> continue with natural antifungals. I bought some oil of oregano. Do

> you recommend this most or should I go with something else?

>

> I cannot wait to stop the Nystatin, if I take it at the wrong time, I

> vomit. I have probably vomited around 10+ times in the last three

> months because of it.

>

> Ever grateful,

>

> p.s. Congrats! on the website. It looks great!

==>Hi . Oil of oregano is just as good as raw garlic and clove

oil. It is easier to use rather than dealing with garlic breath from

raw garlic.

Bee

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