Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Hello, My name is Inna and I have a 27-year old son with autism. I want to get a suggestion what is the best best frequency in chelation according to Andy's protocal my friend has told me that 3 days of administration of ALA then 11 days off. But the following is what I read. It did not said that. And HOW DO I DO IT ORALLY OR SPAY OR OTHER WAY? AND DO I MIX ALA AND DMPS OR NOT? WHAT KIND OF SIDE EFFECT DOES MOST PEOPLE SEE? HERE IS ANDY'S PROTOCAL: Chelation is done by giving ALA round the clock for several days, then skipping at least as many days and repeating. It is necessary to have skip periods to avoid increasing body levels of copper and zinc too much as ALA inhibits their excretion. Chelating for 3 days and the 2 intervening nights then skipping at least the rest of the week is practical in terms of patient (and caretaker) tolerance for lost sleep and side effects. Giving the ALA every 3 hours during the waking period and every 4 during sleep seems to work well. DMSA changes the side effect profile of ALA and also accelerates detox by 30-40%. DMSA must be given no less often than every 4 hours and it is best to give it with the ALA for convenience. DMPS may also be used orally in combination with ALA. Subjectively this leads to a much lower side effect profile. DMPS must be administered no less often than every 8 hours. Administration with every other ALA dose is suggested for simplicity. Reasonable dosages are 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound for each of ALA, DMSA and DMPS. There is no need for any specific ratio between them ? most people adjust their ALA dosage up and down to find a level where side effects aren?t bothersome and then stay at that dosage. Since toxin removal goes as the square root of chelator dose there is no reason to tolerate substantial side effects in order to hurry things along. Side effects are an increase in symptoms or appearance of new symptoms during the chelation cycle and for up to one day afterwards. It is necessary to administer antioxidants due to the increased oxidative stress toxin mobilization causes. B complex, C and magnesium should be given 4 times a day, and zinc, E, carotenes, etc. at least daily. The B and C are not effective if not given 4 times a day due to their pharmacokinetics. THANK YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPLY ASAP. BECAUSE NOW I AM PAYING 118 DOLLARS FOR EACH INTRAVENOUS CHELLATION. THANKS AND HAPPY CHINESE NEW Y OF TIGAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 We do three days on and four days off. We start Friday after school and end Monday morning. TJ ________________________________ From: innadeng <innadeng@...> Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 1:44:05 PM Subject: [ ] new to the group - chelation protocol  Hello, My name is Inna and I have a 27-year old son with autism. I want to get a suggestion what is the best best frequency in chelation according to Andy's protocal my friend has told me that 3 days of administration of ALA then 11 days off. But the following is what I read. It did not said that. And HOW DO I DO IT ORALLY OR SPAY OR OTHER WAY? AND DO I MIX ALA AND DMPS OR NOT? WHAT KIND OF SIDE EFFECT DOES MOST PEOPLE SEE? HERE IS ANDY'S PROTOCAL: Chelation is done by giving ALA round the clock for several days, then skipping at least as many days and repeating. It is necessary to have skip periods to avoid increasing body levels of copper and zinc too much as ALA inhibits their excretion. Chelating for 3 days and the 2 intervening nights then skipping at least the rest of the week is practical in terms of patient (and caretaker) tolerance for lost sleep and side effects. Giving the ALA every 3 hours during the waking period and every 4 during sleep seems to work well. DMSA changes the side effect profile of ALA and also accelerates detox by 30-40%. DMSA must be given no less often than every 4 hours and it is best to give it with the ALA for convenience. DMPS may also be used orally in combination with ALA. Subjectively this leads to a much lower side effect profile. DMPS must be administered no less often than every 8 hours. Administration with every other ALA dose is suggested for simplicity. Reasonable dosages are 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound for each of ALA, DMSA and DMPS. There is no need for any specific ratio between them ? most people adjust their ALA dosage up and down to find a level where side effects aren?t bothersome and then stay at that dosage. Since toxin removal goes as the square root of chelator dose there is no reason to tolerate substantial side effects in order to hurry things along. Side effects are an increase in symptoms or appearance of new symptoms during the chelation cycle and for up to one day afterwards. It is necessary to administer antioxidants due to the increased oxidative stress toxin mobilization causes. B complex, C and magnesium should be given 4 times a day, and zinc, E, carotenes, etc. at least daily. The B and C are not effective if not given 4 times a day due to their pharmacokinetics. THANK YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPLY ASAP. BECAUSE NOW I AM PAYING 118 DOLLARS FOR EACH INTRAVENOUS CHELLATION. THANKS AND HAPPY CHINESE NEW Y OF TIGAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 3 days on, 4 days off or 11 days off. ALA orally is best. My son is fine while chelating, no side effects but for 2 days after chelation stops he has bad behaviors and is whinny. We are chelating with CHEMET which is a name brand for DMSA. We haven't began ALA yet. Hope this helps, Janet [ ] new to the group - chelation protocol Hello, My name is Inna and I have a 27-year old son with autism. I want to get a suggestion what is the best best frequency in chelation according to Andy's protocal my friend has told me that 3 days of administration of ALA then 11 days off. But the following is what I read. It did not said that. And HOW DO I DO IT ORALLY OR SPAY OR OTHER WAY? AND DO I MIX ALA AND DMPS OR NOT? WHAT KIND OF SIDE EFFECT DOES MOST PEOPLE SEE? HERE IS ANDY'S PROTOCAL: Chelation is done by giving ALA round the clock for several days, then skipping at least as many days and repeating. It is necessary to have skip periods to avoid increasing body levels of copper and zinc too much as ALA inhibits their excretion. Chelating for 3 days and the 2 intervening nights then skipping at least the rest of the week is practical in terms of patient (and caretaker) tolerance for lost sleep and side effects. Giving the ALA every 3 hours during the waking period and every 4 during sleep seems to work well. DMSA changes the side effect profile of ALA and also accelerates detox by 30-40%. DMSA must be given no less often than every 4 hours and it is best to give it with the ALA for convenience. DMPS may also be used orally in combination with ALA. Subjectively this leads to a much lower side effect profile. DMPS must be administered no less often than every 8 hours. Administration with every other ALA dose is suggested for simplicity. Reasonable dosages are 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound for each of ALA, DMSA and DMPS. There is no need for any specific ratio between them ? most people adjust their ALA dosage up and down to find a level where side effects aren?t bothersome and then stay at that dosage. Since toxin removal goes as the square root of chelator dose there is no reason to tolerate substantial side effects in order to hurry things along. Side effects are an increase in symptoms or appearance of new symptoms during the chelation cycle and for up to one day afterwards. It is necessary to administer antioxidants due to the increased oxidative stress toxin mobilization causes. B complex, C and magnesium should be given 4 times a day, and zinc, E, carotenes, etc. at least daily. The B and C are not effective if not given 4 times a day due to their pharmacokinetics. THANK YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPLY ASAP. BECAUSE NOW I AM PAYING 118 DOLLARS FOR EACH INTRAVENOUS CHELLATION. THANKS AND HAPPY CHINESE NEW Y OF TIGAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 innadeng wrote: > > > > THANK YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPLY ASAP. BECAUSE NOW I AM PAYING 118 > DOLLARS FOR EACH INTRAVENOUS CHELLATION. > Actually, you are paying much, much more than that in damaging your son's health with IV chelation. You can do the Cutler protocol 3 days on 11 off OR 3 days on 4 off. It does not matter. What matters is three or more days on and three or more days off. Start slowly. 12.5 mg of ALA or DMSA. It is preferable to give ALA every 3 hours throughout the day AND night. MAKE SURE your son has NO dental fillings made of amalgam (silver metal colour). NONE. ZERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 , I have met 2 kids recovered w CA-EDTA IV chelation (+ GH + phoscholine) could u please tell me more about the negative effects of this kind of chelation? TIA Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel Re: [ ] new to the group - chelation protocol innadeng wrote: > > > > THANK YOU PLEASE KINDLY REPLY ASAP. BECAUSE NOW I AM PAYING 118 > DOLLARS FOR EACH INTRAVENOUS CHELLATION. > Actually, you are paying much, much more than that in damaging your son's health with IV chelation. You can do the Cutler protocol 3 days on 11 off OR 3 days on 4 off. It does not matter. What matters is three or more days on and three or more days off. Start slowly. 12.5 mg of ALA or DMSA. It is preferable to give ALA every 3 hours throughout the day AND night. MAKE SURE your son has NO dental fillings made of amalgam (silver metal colour). NONE. ZERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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