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Unfortunately mercury goes into the tissues rather quickly and will not show up

in a blood test unless there was recent exposure.

Conventional medicine is mainly concerned with occupational exposure to mercury,

like at a factory or a mine.

A hair test, looking for deranged mineral transport, is the only reliable way to

check for mercury toxicity.

You apply the counting rules as explained in Andy Cutler's book : Hair Test

Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities.

You are looking at the effects that mercury has on the body's function.

TJ

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From: The Finks <hafinkim@...>

Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 1:44:57 PM

Subject: [ ] How to be sure of high Mercury ?

 

Hi,

We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

Got the same results more or less.

DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the results he

has high Mercury.

It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not find hair

tests reliable.

We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

Any recommendations ?

Thanks.

Amihay

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The Finks wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

>

Please post in the files section.

> Got the same results more or less.

>

> DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the results he

> has high Mercury.

> It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

>

> On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

>

If you need more information on how a hair test is MORE reliable than

blood or urine, I suggest you read Cutler's Amalgam Illness and

Hair Test Interpretation:

http://www.noamalgam.com

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not find hair

> tests reliable.

>

They do not have a proper understanding of body physiology and

chemistry, despite having gone to medical school where this is taught.

>

> We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

>

Hair test interpretation IS conventional medicine in that it uses the

conventional rules of body chemistry and physiology.

Medicine is BASED on interpreting symptoms to figure out what is wrong

with the body.

There are many things in medicine that do not show up on blood and urine

tests. If they did, any lab technician could diagnose illness.

> Any recommendations ?

>

> Thanks.

> Amihay

>

>

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>

> We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

>

> DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the results he

> has high Mercury.

> It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

>

> On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not find hair

> tests reliable.

>

> We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> Any recommendations ?

>

> Thanks.

> Amihay

>

Amihay, please know that we understand your frustration. I felt similar

frustration when I was beginning to research the situation. I agree with those

who posted above.

I understand that mercury and other metals cause the strange variation in the

levels minerals that is seen on the hair analysis. Those experienced in reading

the test results, such as Andy Cutler, can glean valuable information from them.

There are other tests that can also be interesting. Ask about the porphyrin

test.

http://hugginsappliedhealing.com/articles_porphyrins.php

https://directlabs.com/imagepage.aspx?id=795 & type=testsample

https://directlabs.com/OrderTests/tabid/55/language/en-US/Default.aspx

A provoked urine test might be interesting but not as helpful as you might

think.

Search the following for " chelation challenge tests "

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/oEeuSwoGA9DWpr3v_hP3mKjCHB8dyH-yWbJd1VuUIuHn5g6iIJ7\

UVHNZcWcBs4BVz4yZaHqstimzMVKYZ1MGSuooFPKsBKQd/Rooney2007.pdf

A doctor who is a specialist in this area might have a protocol and large block

of data to use for comparison. I think this is a bit dated but should give you

a better feel for the challenges involved. The doctor tells the story of her

own autistic child.

http://www.flcv.com/autismc.html

http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#wethink

Finally if you decide to go with a provoked test ask about doing it during one

of the rounds of chelation using Andy's protocol in order to minimize

redistribution.

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Added a folder with 2 the 2 results @ files directory named - " Y.Fink "

Thanks.

Amihay

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

> >

> Please post in the files section.

>

> > Got the same results more or less.

> >

> > DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the results he

> > has high Mercury.

> > It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

> >

> > On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> >

> If you need more information on how a hair test is MORE reliable than

> blood or urine, I suggest you read Cutler's Amalgam Illness and

> Hair Test Interpretation:

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

>

> > On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not find hair

> > tests reliable.

> >

>

> They do not have a proper understanding of body physiology and

> chemistry, despite having gone to medical school where this is taught.

>

> >

> > We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> >

>

> Hair test interpretation IS conventional medicine in that it uses the

> conventional rules of body chemistry and physiology.

>

> Medicine is BASED on interpreting symptoms to figure out what is wrong

> with the body.

>

> There are many things in medicine that do not show up on blood and urine

> tests. If they did, any lab technician could diagnose illness.

>

>

>

>

> > Any recommendations ?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Amihay

> >

> >

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Yes, both tests meet the " all-high " rule where 5 or less bars extend to

the left of normal.

Mineral transport is certainly disturbed and this indicates chronic

mercury toxicity in the body.

The test does not indicate adrenal or thyroid involvement.

Your son would certainly benefit from chelation according to the Cutler

protocol. Please do not use the DAN standard chelation protocol as this

is harmful.

What are his symptoms?

fink_a@... wrote:

>

>

> Added a folder with 2 the 2 results @ files directory named - " Y.Fink "

>

> Thanks.

> Amihay

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

> > >

> > Please post in the files section.

> >

> > > Got the same results more or less.

> > >

> > > DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the

> results he

> > > has high Mercury.

> > > It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

> > >

> > > On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> > >

> > If you need more information on how a hair test is MORE reliable than

> > blood or urine, I suggest you read Cutler's Amalgam Illness and

> > Hair Test Interpretation:

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com <http://www.noamalgam.com>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html>

> >

> >

> > > On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not

> find hair

> > > tests reliable.

> > >

> >

> > They do not have a proper understanding of body physiology and

> > chemistry, despite having gone to medical school where this is taught.

> >

> > >

> > > We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> > >

> >

> > Hair test interpretation IS conventional medicine in that it uses the

> > conventional rules of body chemistry and physiology.

> >

> > Medicine is BASED on interpreting symptoms to figure out what is wrong

> > with the body.

> >

> > There are many things in medicine that do not show up on blood and

> urine

> > tests. If they did, any lab technician could diagnose illness.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Any recommendations ?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > Amihay

> > >

> > >

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My son is diagnosed 'formally' with ASD/PDD-NOS.

Physically he's fine, generally speaking, clumsy at times.

The major symptoms are in the areas of speech and language(shallow speech

comprehension and expression), sociality, slow learning...

Gets stimming when anxious or bored,

Needs to be occupied not to get bored.

Eats normally (not on any diet at the moment)

Sleeps well.

Currently main-stremed in a public kindergarten - found his place emotionally

there.And learns at home on a learning-therapy plan arranged for him.

My understanding so far from DAN! materials is that GFCF diet+ supplemeation

should take place before chelation.

What is your opinion on that ?

Is the protocol you refer to (Cutler's) known to MD ?

We would need medical expert to guide us through.

How would you recommend to approach it ?

Thanks.

Amihay

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

> > > >

> > > Please post in the files section.

> > >

> > > > Got the same results more or less.

> > > >

> > > > DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the

> > results he

> > > > has high Mercury.

> > > > It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

> > > >

> > > > On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> > > >

> > > If you need more information on how a hair test is MORE reliable than

> > > blood or urine, I suggest you read Cutler's Amalgam Illness and

> > > Hair Test Interpretation:

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com <http://www.noamalgam.com>

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > <http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html>

> > >

> > >

> > > > On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not

> > find hair

> > > > tests reliable.

> > > >

> > >

> > > They do not have a proper understanding of body physiology and

> > > chemistry, despite having gone to medical school where this is taught.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Hair test interpretation IS conventional medicine in that it uses the

> > > conventional rules of body chemistry and physiology.

> > >

> > > Medicine is BASED on interpreting symptoms to figure out what is wrong

> > > with the body.

> > >

> > > There are many things in medicine that do not show up on blood and

> > urine

> > > tests. If they did, any lab technician could diagnose illness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Any recommendations ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > Amihay

> > > >

> > > >

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Please search back for any of my posts, my son is your sons age and with the

same diagnosis and we have nearly recovered

I have posted several times about our protocol(not the andy one . I had not

found him yet . but similar) we have had great results . the dr's and the

school, everyone are in shock and awe.

Please look back and read what has worked for us. It may not work for you

but knowledge is power. Conventional dr's will not help you much

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:54 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: How to be sure of high Mercury ?

My son is diagnosed 'formally' with ASD/PDD-NOS.

Physically he's fine, generally speaking, clumsy at times.

The major symptoms are in the areas of speech and language(shallow speech

comprehension and expression), sociality, slow learning...

Gets stimming when anxious or bored,

Needs to be occupied not to get bored.

Eats normally (not on any diet at the moment)

Sleeps well.

Currently main-stremed in a public kindergarten - found his place

emotionally there.And learns at home on a learning-therapy plan arranged for

him.

My understanding so far from DAN! materials is that GFCF diet+ supplemeation

should take place before chelation.

What is your opinion on that ?

Is the protocol you refer to (Cutler's) known to MD ?

We would need medical expert to guide us through.

How would you recommend to approach it ?

Thanks.

Amihay

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

> > > >

> > > Please post in the files section.

> > >

> > > > Got the same results more or less.

> > > >

> > > > DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the

> > results he

> > > > has high Mercury.

> > > > It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

> > > >

> > > > On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> > > >

> > > If you need more information on how a hair test is MORE reliable than

> > > blood or urine, I suggest you read Cutler's Amalgam Illness and

> > > Hair Test Interpretation:

> > >

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com <http://www.noamalgam.com>

> > > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > <http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html>

> > >

> > >

> > > > On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not

> > find hair

> > > > tests reliable.

> > > >

> > >

> > > They do not have a proper understanding of body physiology and

> > > chemistry, despite having gone to medical school where this is taught.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Hair test interpretation IS conventional medicine in that it uses the

> > > conventional rules of body chemistry and physiology.

> > >

> > > Medicine is BASED on interpreting symptoms to figure out what is wrong

> > > with the body.

> > >

> > > There are many things in medicine that do not show up on blood and

> > urine

> > > tests. If they did, any lab technician could diagnose illness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Any recommendations ?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > Amihay

> > > >

> > > >

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Posted by: " fink_a@... " hafinkim@... fink_a@...

Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:59 am (PDT)

My son is diagnosed 'formally' with ASD/PDD-NOS.

Physically he's fine, generally speaking, clumsy at times.

The major symptoms are in the areas of speech and language(shallow speech

comprehension and expression), sociality, slow learning...

Gets stimming when anxious or bored,

Needs to be occupied not to get bored.

Eats normally (not on any diet at the moment)

Sleeps well.

Currently main-stremed in a public kindergarten - found his place emotionally

there.And learns at home on a learning-therapy plan arranged for him.

My understanding so far from DAN! materials is that GFCF diet+ supplemeation

should take place before chelation.

What is your opinion on that ?

*Only if needed.

Is the protocol you refer to (Cutler's) known to MD ?

*Most doctor's don't understand Cutler protocol.

We would need medical expert to guide us through.

How would you recommend to approach it ?

*Most of us here chelate without a doc because most docs don't understand safe

chelation. Educate yourself and be prepared to overrule the doctor. Do not

allow a challenge test.

Thanks.

Amihay

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Thank you all for your responses. That's what I will be doing.

>

> Comments interspersed.

> S S

>

> Re: How to be sure of high Mercury ?

> Posted by: " fink_a@... " hafinkim@... fink_a@...

> Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:59 am (PDT)

>

>

>

> My son is diagnosed 'formally' with ASD/PDD-NOS.

> Physically he's fine, generally speaking, clumsy at times.

>

> The major symptoms are in the areas of speech and language(shallow speech

comprehension and expression), sociality, slow learning...

> Gets stimming when anxious or bored,

> Needs to be occupied not to get bored.

> Eats normally (not on any diet at the moment)

> Sleeps well.

>

> Currently main-stremed in a public kindergarten - found his place emotionally

there.And learns at home on a learning-therapy plan arranged for him.

>

> My understanding so far from DAN! materials is that GFCF diet+ supplemeation

should take place before chelation.

> What is your opinion on that ?

>

> *Only if needed.

>

> Is the protocol you refer to (Cutler's) known to MD ?

>

> *Most doctor's don't understand Cutler protocol.

>

> We would need medical expert to guide us through.

> How would you recommend to approach it ?

>

> *Most of us here chelate without a doc because most docs don't understand safe

chelation. Educate yourself and be prepared to overrule the doctor. Do not

allow a challenge test.

>

> Thanks.

> Amihay

>

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Thank you!

> >

> > We did twice hair tests to our 7 yo son.

> >

> > DAN! consultant told us that according to several hints in the results he

> > has high Mercury.

> > It does not show directly in the lab analysis.

> >

> > On one hand - we cannot jsut move on with this kind of info,

> > On the other - all the conventional MD's we cosulted with do not find hair

> > tests reliable.

> >

> > We would like to a conventional medicine way to verify this.

> > Any recommendations ?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Amihay

> >

>

> Amihay, please know that we understand your frustration. I felt similar

frustration when I was beginning to research the situation. I agree with those

who posted above.

>

> I understand that mercury and other metals cause the strange variation in the

levels minerals that is seen on the hair analysis. Those experienced in reading

the test results, such as Andy Cutler, can glean valuable information from them.

>

> There are other tests that can also be interesting. Ask about the porphyrin

test.

> http://hugginsappliedhealing.com/articles_porphyrins.php

> https://directlabs.com/imagepage.aspx?id=795 & type=testsample

> https://directlabs.com/OrderTests/tabid/55/language/en-US/Default.aspx

>

> A provoked urine test might be interesting but not as helpful as you might

think.

> Search the following for " chelation challenge tests "

>

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/oEeuSwoGA9DWpr3v_hP3mKjCHB8dyH-yWbJd1VuUIuHn5g6iIJ7\

UVHNZcWcBs4BVz4yZaHqstimzMVKYZ1MGSuooFPKsBKQd/Rooney2007.pdf

>

> A doctor who is a specialist in this area might have a protocol and large

block of data to use for comparison. I think this is a bit dated but should

give you a better feel for the challenges involved. The doctor tells the story

of her own autistic child.

> http://www.flcv.com/autismc.html

> http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#wethink

>

> Finally if you decide to go with a provoked test ask about doing it during one

of the rounds of chelation using Andy's protocol in order to minimize

redistribution.

>

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