Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

[Guest guest]

Could you please tell me what K2 stands for and what it is?  Can it be used

without the biofilm protocol?

Thanks,

Kelley

From: B <peter_2_@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

" autism mercury " <autism treatment >

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 3:10 PM

Its not going to work alone

We found a big release of yeast on using K2 and oregano P73 and a big gain. 

These were the subject of the orignal posts, and the oregano is part of biofilm

protocol and K2 the vit K protocol. We are on 27 other supplements daily.

We were using nystatin and flagyl also, but found these completely ineffective

at releasing yeast until we started the K2

From: HISSPECIALTOUCH@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:28:45 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

 

I was not either...and my kids have been on k2 for quite a while...like a year

or so and see no difference at all in their yeast levels.

What I understood was an enzyme to kill the coating and then edta to kill it

afterward and charcoal to mop up....which for my kids would not work....they

don't do well with once a day chelators.

I am going to try the SPS30 by theramedix alone and see how it goes...I did it

once...it isn't a real cheap supp...but go higher and see where we go....I

understood that it was to work on strep...but may have other uses.

Ronni

>

>

> In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> peter_2_@... writes:

>

> People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> that.

>

>

> >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me to

> the info please.

>

> How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is a dietary supplement Vitamin K2 - we use " Thorne " as the manufacturer

It is best to be guided by a DAN doctor to incorporate everything in correct

sequence

From: kamstone6@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:01:48 -0800

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

Could you please tell me what K2 stands for and what it is? Can it be used

without the biofilm protocol?

Thanks,

Kelley

From: B <peter_2_@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

" autism mercury " <autism treatment >

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 3:10 PM

Its not going to work alone

We found a big release of yeast on using K2 and oregano P73 and a big gain.

These were the subject of the orignal posts, and the oregano is part of biofilm

protocol and K2 the vit K protocol. We are on 27 other supplements daily.

We were using nystatin and flagyl also, but found these completely ineffective

at releasing yeast until we started the K2

From: HISSPECIALTOUCH@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:28:45 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

I was not either...and my kids have been on k2 for quite a while...like a year

or so and see no difference at all in their yeast levels.

What I understood was an enzyme to kill the coating and then edta to kill it

afterward and charcoal to mop up....which for my kids would not work....they

don't do well with once a day chelators.

I am going to try the SPS30 by theramedix alone and see how it goes...I did it

once...it isn't a real cheap supp...but go higher and see where we go....I

understood that it was to work on strep...but may have other uses.

Ronni

>

>

> In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> peter_2_@... writes:

>

> People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> that.

>

>

> >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me to

> the info please.

>

> How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My child is school age and the protocol (to my understanding) is to dose every

hour or 2 hours.  Can it be done anyother way?  I might have to wait until

summer.  Any suggestions?  We have chelated 41 rounds of DMSA and about 20

rounds of ALA.  Yeast is getting better but I know I can do better.

Thanks,

Kelley 

From: B <peter_2_@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

" autism mercury " <autism treatment >

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 3:10 PM

Its not going to work alone

We found a big release of yeast on using K2 and oregano P73 and a big gain. 

These were the subject of the orignal posts, and the oregano is part of biofilm

protocol and K2 the vit K protocol. We are on 27 other supplements daily.

We were using nystatin and flagyl also, but found these completely ineffective

at releasing yeast until we started the K2

From: HISSPECIALTOUCH@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:28:45 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

 

I was not either...and my kids have been on k2 for quite a while...like a year

or so and see no difference at all in their yeast levels.

What I understood was an enzyme to kill the coating and then edta to kill it

afterward and charcoal to mop up....which for my kids would not work....they

don't do well with once a day chelators.

I am going to try the SPS30 by theramedix alone and see how it goes...I did it

once...it isn't a real cheap supp...but go higher and see where we go....I

understood that it was to work on strep...but may have other uses.

Ronni

>

>

> In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> peter_2_@... writes:

>

> People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> that.

>

>

> >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me to

> the info please.

>

> How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!  I will look into it.  Nothing seems to work for out yeast, except

Ampho B.  It worries me for him to be on it long term.

From: Mum231ASD@... <Mum231ASD@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:10 PM

 

In a message dated 30/01/2010 21:01:53 GMT Standard Time,

kamstone6 (DOT) com writes:

Could you please tell me what K2 stands for and what it is? Can it be

used without the biofilm protocol?

>>I'm not actually aware it has anything to do with the biofilm

protocol.... ......other than maybe the K2 is putting the Calcium where is

should be

and leaving it unavailable for the biofilm matrix which needs Calcium and

Magnesium to hang itself together, that's why the protocol uses EDTA, to pull

the calcium and help break it down so the killers can get in and do their

job.

K2 is Vitamin K , the 2 stands for the type of Vitamin K that is helpful

for our kids. This is the addy for the Vitamin K group, they used to

send out the protocol when you joined, not had time to see posts there in a

while

_http://health. groups.. com/group/ VitaminK/ _

(http://health. groups.. com/group/ VitaminK/)

HTH

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

We are 40 rounds in and I have noticed that the yeast seems to be getting

better.  Easier to control.  What is MMS?

Thanks,

Kelley

From: Mum231ASD@... <Mum231ASD@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:26 PM

 

In a message dated 30/01/2010 21:15:35 GMT Standard Time,

kamstone6 (DOT) com writes:

Thanks! I will look into it. Nothing seems to work for out yeast, except

Ampho B. It worries me for him to be on it long term.

>>Chelation is the best way to resolve issues because its getting at the

cause, takes a while mind you.

Have you tired MMS? Couple of doses zap yeast here but we are 130 rounds

into chelation are rarely have issues now, for Sam its getting choclate or

neat juice for me its treating myself to a beer!

I use this one _http://www.mmseurop e.info/miraclemi neralsupplement. html_

(http://www.mmseurop e.info/miraclemi neralsupplement. html)

HTH

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I found Vitamin K2 (Menatetrenone) ,is that it? and Oreganol – P73 at New

Beginning Nutrionals , do you think this needs to be done under the supervision

of A DAN! Doctor? My son is 15..

THANKS

NAFISSA

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > peter_2_@ writes:

> >

> > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > that.

> >

> >

> > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me

to

> > the info please.

> >

> > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We did oregano....and with the vit K2 and had no differences. It is as with

many things....different kids do differently. I just looked thru the protocol

and I do not see the oregano...I see a lot of things...but not the oregano...

I am familiar with Tamaro's protocol. It is very good and

helpful....for several issues...but didn't notice any help with yeast.

We will be starting the SPS30 soon...and seeing if it will help. I am at this

point not sure what helps. We are doing nystatin, biotin,

64 mgs a day...which is fairly high..candex and immune boosters and

modulators...and still yeast is a terrible issue....we are on almost a

completely carb free diet...very difficult but necessary. We have also done over

60 rounds of chelation...dmsa and ala...separately. We are unable to add the

ala back in because of the yeast...we started with just ala...and had to stop

because of the yeast...

We have done High C, lysine, virastop and olive leaf protocols to remove viruses

and we are still fighting them. Some of our kids just

have a rougher road to travel than others I guess....not sure what else to

think.

We are not new to this....have been fighting autism for my 3 youngest vaccinated

adopted FAS/drug affected in utero kids, for prolly 8-10 yrs...very intensively

the last 6 or 7.

Ronni

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > peter_2_@ writes:

> >

> > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > that.

> >

> >

> > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me

to

> > the info please.

> >

> > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Have you tried Ampho B?  It is the only thing that holds the yeast at bay for

us.  We have been off and on it for about 2 years.  We go on it for a couple

of months and chelate as much as we can while on it.

Kelley

From: ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:49 PM

 

We did oregano....and with the vit K2 and had no differences. It is as with many

things....different kids do differently. I just looked thru the protocol and I

do not see the oregano...I see a lot of things...but not the oregano...

I am familiar with Tamaro's protocol. It is very good and

helpful....for several issues...but didn't notice any help with yeast.

We will be starting the SPS30 soon...and seeing if it will help. I am at this

point not sure what helps. We are doing nystatin, biotin,

64 mgs a day...which is fairly high..candex and immune boosters and modulators..

..and still yeast is a terrible issue....we are on almost a completely carb free

diet...very difficult but necessary. We have also done over 60 rounds of

chelation... dmsa and ala...separately. We are unable to add the ala back in

because of the yeast...we started with just ala...and had to stop because of the

yeast...

We have done High C, lysine, virastop and olive leaf protocols to remove viruses

and we are still fighting them. Some of our kids just

have a rougher road to travel than others I guess....not sure what else to

think.

We are not new to this....have been fighting autism for my 3 youngest vaccinated

adopted FAS/drug affected in utero kids, for prolly 8-10 yrs...very intensively

the last 6 or 7.

Ronni

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > peter_2_@ writes:

> >

> > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > that.

> >

> >

> > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me

to

> > the info please.

> >

> > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Can you tell me how much you use? What brand?

thanks

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > peter_2_@ writes:

> >

> > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > that.

> >

> >

> > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point me

to

> > the info please.

> >

> > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't know much about this one..except my ND refuses to use it.

didn't say why....just that it isn't safe and he won't...

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > > peter_2_@ writes:

> > >

> > > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > > that.

> > >

> > >

> > > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point

me to

> > > the info please.

> > >

> > > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> > >

> > > Mandi in UK

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It is not safe given IV.  Horrible side effects.  We I worked in the intensive

care unit, we called it Amphoterrible.  However, oral Ampho B is not supposed

to have the systemic effects like the IV.  It is supposed to just work on the

gut.  According to research studies.

I would be interested to know why your Dr. won't use it.  Always good to know

different thoughts

Kelley

From: ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Can one ever get rid of yeast?

Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:31 AM

 

I don't know much about this one..except my ND refuses to use it.

didn't say why....just that it isn't safe and he won't...

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 29/01/2010 21:03:42 GMT Standard Time,

> > > peter_2_@ writes:

> > >

> > > People use " biofilm protocol " to brake it down, and K2 is a big part of

> > > that.

> > >

> > >

> > > >>I wasn't aware K2 was part of the biofilm protocol. it wasn;t when I

> > > last heard a presentation on it but I must be out of date, can you point

me to

> > > the info please.

> > >

> > > How does the K2 know the difference between good and bad biofilm?

> > >

> > > Mandi in UK

> > >

> > >

> > >