Re: Re: Other Topic-Severity of ASD-What helped the most.

July 23, 2010

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I have a question. When my now 18 year old was a baby, he stayed awake all

night, either crying or laughing. The doc put him on a soy formula. When we

found out he was Autistic, we presumed he would never be able to drink milk. He

cut that out of his diet years ago himself. He does eat some ice cream--mostly

Pet Fudge Bars.. We have tried to go GFCF for years, with no luck. 2 years ago,

after an endoscopy and 2 colonoscopies for chronic constipation and stomach

pain, the doctor finally did an IGG and found that he had antibodies to gluten

but the GI doc said no celiac. During the last week he has eaten soft serveÂ ice

cream every day, even though he hates the taste and look of milk; makes him gag.

He just had 4 wisdom teeth removed.

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My question: It may be possible to get rid of the gluten since he hasn't had

anything with gluten for 10 days. Considering he has antibodies, do I need to

try this again?. I can't tell a lot of difference in him now, but isn't it a bad

thing to eat gluten if you have developed antibodies?

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Thanks for your input.

D.

From: <Ladyshrink111@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Other Topic-Severity of ASD-What helped the

most.

Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 12:36 PM

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I our case, we had little serotonin, methionine in milk is needed to make

serotonin, so removing the milk left her with none. Course, I only figured this

out years after it happened. Serotonin is responsible for mood, appetite,

motivation.

She also cried nonstop, not the crying kids do to punish you, there was no

sound, just tears. She was not a milk guzzler, never craved it. We put her on

raw milk (and this during the time the dams! were saying milk carried mercury to

the brain, geesh) and chelated her and she recovered.

The diet is always worth a try for the few stories we hear in which it's removal

makes such a remarkable difference. But the diet for the diet's sake is just

making more work. For a lot of kids it doesn't matter. It certainly doesn't cure

anything.

[ ] Re: Other Topic-Severity of ASD-What helped the most.

Why do you think removing a food would cause such problems?

> >

> > I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in joining this

discussion about the severity of ASD in their children and what helped the most.

> > My child is 26 months old now and was diagnosed in Feburary of this year

when he was 20 months old. Currently he has no words, doesnt event make a sound,

does not understand that things have names, doesnt call us mama or dada. In a

nutshell he does not make any sound whatsoever.

> > He does not point to show us that he wants something. He has some eye

contact but on his own terms. He is not hyperactive. Infact we think he is very

hypoactive. He does not throw tantrums. If we take something away from him, he

whines just a little bit then chooses to forget about it and carries on with

something else. He does not ask us for food. We have no clue when he is hungry

because he will just not tell us in any way. He does chew his food at all and is

not open to new foods or textures. He does not have GI issues. DAN confirmed

that with testing.

> > Sometimes he leads us by hand and puts our hand on something that he wants.

He knows to identify the numbers from 1 to 10. Although he doesnt know to count

because he doesnt speak. At the same time, he is unable to tell us where the cat

is in the book, or where the dog is in the book. He can show us

head,ears,eyes,nose,elbow,toes,tummy,butt,arms,legs and knees. So we know he

understands at least that when he ask him to do it. He does bring me toys to fix

if it is not working. He wants to involve me in some engaging games that need

back and forth interaction,not a ball rolling game but a game that i invented to

encourage engagement.

> > Please contribute and discuss.

> > Regards

> > Rochelle

> >

>

July 24, 2010

Have you considered Ionic Lithium from New Beginnings?Â It's more bioavailable

and doesn't build up in the system the way the orotate can.Â Our NP says its

better for long term use.

nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Other Topic-Severity of ASD-What helped the most.

Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:15 AM

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I think low serotonin might be a problem for our son. The symptom was

anger/aggression and no response to reasoning with him.

The thing is, I think I may already be able to address this problem with lithium

orotate, but I'm not sure. A couple days ago, I was reading that lithium

increases the amount of tryptophan available.

When my son has a symptom, I look at what causes that symptom and things that I

use or have used that effectively address that symptom. Then I look at what I

use and how it affects the causes I have found.

I see that these things are related - lithium levels, blood sugar regulation,

adrenal reserves, and serotonin levels. Problems in any of these areas can

cause aggression in males or depression in females.

> > >

> > > I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in joining this

discussion about the severity of ASD in their children and what helped the most.

> > > My child is 26 months old now and was diagnosed in Feburary of this year

when he was 20 months old. Currently he has no words, doesnt event make a sound,

does not understand that things have names, doesnt call us mama or dada. In a

nutshell he does not make any sound whatsoever.

> > > He does not point to show us that he wants something. He has some eye

contact but on his own terms. He is not hyperactive. Infact we think he is very

hypoactive. He does not throw tantrums. If we take something away from him, he

whines just a little bit then chooses to forget about it and carries on with

something else. He does not ask us for food. We have no clue when he is hungry

because he will just not tell us in any way. He does chew his food at all and is

not open to new foods or textures. He does not have GI issues. DAN confirmed

that with testing.

> > > Sometimes he leads us by hand and puts our hand on something that he

wants. He knows to identify the numbers from 1 to 10. Although he doesnt know to

count because he doesnt speak. At the same time, he is unable to tell us where

the cat is in the book, or where the dog is in the book. He can show us

head,ears,eyes,nose,elbow,toes,tummy,butt,arms,legs and knees. So we know he

understands at least that when he ask him to do it. He does bring me toys to fix

if it is not working. He wants to involve me in some engaging games that need

back and forth interaction,not a ball rolling game but a game that i invented to

encourage engagement.

> > > Please contribute and discuss.

> > > Regards

> > > Rochelle

> > >

> >

July 25, 2010

Lithium was not effective here, neither was ACE. TMG helped somewhat so the

depression was likely related somewhat to low methylation and a MTHFR issue.

Nothing cured it but chelation. So in a way I used a nondiet as a bandaid to

help the problem until we could get enough mercury out to solve the problem.

She had all the issues; low lithium, hypoglycemia, adrenal issues and low

serotonin as well as anorexia another symptom of low serotonin as is low

motivation.

[ ] Re: Other Topic-Severity of ASD-What helped the

most.

I think low serotonin might be a problem for our son. The symptom was

anger/aggression and no response to reasoning with him.

The thing is, I think I may already be able to address this problem with

lithium orotate, but I'm not sure. A couple days ago, I was reading that lithium

increases the amount of tryptophan available.

When my son has a symptom, I look at what causes that symptom and things that

I use or have used that effectively address that symptom. Then I look at what I

use and how it affects the causes I have found.

I see that these things are related - lithium levels, blood sugar regulation,

adrenal reserves, and serotonin levels. Problems in any of these areas can cause

aggression in males or depression in females.