Re: Dark Circles (aka Allergic Shiners)

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Brain yeast causes hyperactivity ?? How to treat yeast in the brain ?

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From: agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...>

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 22:21:12

Subject: [ ] Dark Circles (aka Allergic Shiners)

Dark Circles under eyes, also known as Allergic Shiners, can be eliminated with

removing the offending allergen (for instance, casein/dairy). That said, those

prone to dark circles will also show them when tired and when in need of adrenal

support.

we had those for years and years and years and just traced it to casein.

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> So,if i understand correctly, anything and everything can be attributed to

>elevated yeast. I think Dana also suggests that yeast caused asthma in her

>child. She also mentions that there is Gut yeast and brain yeast.Brain yeast

>causes hyperactivity, stimming etc whereas gut yeast causes malabsorption

>leading to fatigue, dark circles under the eyes etc. This is really hard to

>understand.

> Rochelle

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I know right..Brain yeast causes hyperactivity. I have no freaking clue how to

test for brain yeast. Not just that..apparently there is something called yeast

in the lungs that causes asthma attacks.

Rochelle

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> > So,if i understand correctly, anything and everything can be attributed to

> >elevated yeast. I think Dana also suggests that yeast caused asthma in her

> >child. She also mentions that there is Gut yeast and brain yeast.Brain yeast

> >causes hyperactivity, stimming etc whereas gut yeast causes malabsorption

> >leading to fatigue, dark circles under the eyes etc. This is really hard to

> >understand.

> > Rochelle

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No matter whether the yeast is affecting brain or gut, the treatment is same.

Yeast free diet (SCD is a good one), Probiotics, anti-yeast supplements, herbs

and/or prescription drugs.

Complete elimination os all forms of sugar, minimization of all carbs is key.

HTH,

Ragha

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> > > So,if i understand correctly, anything and everything can be attributed to

> > >elevated yeast. I think Dana also suggests that yeast caused asthma in her

> > >child. She also mentions that there is Gut yeast and brain yeast.Brain

yeast

> > >causes hyperactivity, stimming etc whereas gut yeast causes malabsorption

> > >leading to fatigue, dark circles under the eyes etc. This is really hard to

> > >understand.

> > > Rochelle

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There is only one way to test for brain stuff (including yeast) definitely and

that is an autopsy.

As for lung issues, my son has lung issues. Aside from an allergy test for

fungus, you would have to do a lung biopsy. (We have pulmonologists in my family

and we have asked about fungus in the lungs before now and that was the answer.

My son has pulmonary infiltrates, which could be fungus; they show up on

X-ray's.) If anyone tells you that you can symptomatically tell, they are

reaching for straws...it is impossible.

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> > > So,if i understand correctly, anything and everything can be attributed to

> > >elevated yeast. I think Dana also suggests that yeast caused asthma in her

> > >child. She also mentions that there is Gut yeast and brain yeast.Brain

yeast

> > >causes hyperactivity, stimming etc whereas gut yeast causes malabsorption

> > >leading to fatigue, dark circles under the eyes etc. This is really hard to

> > >understand.

> > > Rochelle

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So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

Thanks,

Haven

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Since you responded to my post, looking back on the messages, I never said this

symptom was brain yeast. I merely stated that Dark Circles were from allergies

or being tired. If they are there all day, then they are allergies, not yeast.

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> So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

> has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

> pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

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> Thanks,

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> Haven

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> Brain yeast causes hyperactivity ?? How to treat yeast in the brain

I eliminated yeast with biotin and GSE. It did not matter where the yeast was,

including brain and lungs. Biotin and GSE always worked here.

Dana

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Hi all,

To add to this thread, we have also noticed that when our guy is under any

stress from not digesting completely (like when he needed No-Fenol) that also

showed in the purple dark circles under his eyes.  After adding the digestive

enzyme they slowly cleared up.  I always say that his eyes are the thermometer

to how he's feeling.  If he is tired, getting sick, not digesting well his eyes

will get dark circles.  The difference now is that they will resolve in a day

or two, once we find the issue and fix it.

nancy j

a child is diagnosed with

asd every 20 seconds

From: agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Dark Circles (aka Allergic Shiners)

Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 6:18 AM

 

Since you responded to my post, looking back on the messages, I never said

this symptom was brain yeast. I merely stated that Dark Circles were from

allergies or being tired. If they are there all day, then they are allergies,

not yeast.

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> So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

> has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

> pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Haven

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I'll bet chelation with the ALA did the best work. At least for a permanent

remedy.

> > Brain yeast causes hyperactivity ?? How to treat yeast in the brain

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> I eliminated yeast with biotin and GSE. It did not matter where the yeast

was, including brain and lungs. Biotin and GSE always worked here.

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> Dana

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Yes, illness will cause them also.

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> > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

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> > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

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> > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

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> > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

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> > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

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> > Thanks,

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> > Haven

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Curious, ... how can you distinguish between allergies vs yeast based on if

the circles are present all day? What does that tell you?

Thanks,

pam

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> > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

> > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

> > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

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> > Thanks,

> >

> > Haven

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thanks dana. you are always reliable in this dpt. has helped me immensly.

> > Brain yeast causes hyperactivity ?? How to treat yeast in the brain

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> I eliminated yeast with biotin and GSE. It did not matter where the yeast

was, including brain and lungs. Biotin and GSE always worked here.

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> Dana

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my son always has allegy shiners and when he is on enzymes that helps. i was

told by our doc that enzymes help trick the immune system into not seeing the

trigger food by breaking them down. glad someone else has this experience too.

sometimes i feel overwlemed by it all

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> > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

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> > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

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> > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

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> > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

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> > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

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> > Thanks,

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> > Haven

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That 'reducing body burden first' is a DAN! belief. I do not know where they

get their information (like from what studies). If you have recent exposure to

mercury you need to wait a few months before adding ALA because mercury will be

in the bloodstream, but other than that I do not believe it really makes much of

a difference.

Pam

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> Yes. I know ALA is powerful, but my concern is that I read it crosses the

> BBB. In the beginning we were told that you have to get the metals out of

> the body first, that just using ALA could pull metals from the body and

> carry them into the brain. Could someone clarify this for me? I am nervous

> about using even oral DMPS or DMSA because of my son's reaction other sulfa

> drugs.

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> Has anyone used Natural Cellular Defense? Our son's DAN! n doc gave us this

> to try. I'd like to know others thoughts on this.

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> Haven

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Sleep deprived kids also gets it

Sasmita

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> > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

> > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

> > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

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> > > Thanks,

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> > > Haven

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Yes. Glad to have you here to guide us. Thanks again.

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From: phylc888 <phyllisccook@...>

Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:02:13

Subject: [ ] Re: Dark Circles (aka Allergic Shiners)

thanks dana. you are always reliable in this dpt. has helped me immensly.

> > Brain yeast causes hyperactivity ?? How to treat yeast in the brain

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> I eliminated yeast with biotin and GSE. It did not matter where the yeast

was,

>including brain and lungs. Biotin and GSE always worked here.

>

> Dana

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> I'll bet chelation with the ALA did the best work. At least for a permanent

remedy.

ALA chelation eliminated the gut yeast problem entirely. Anti-virals, B12, and

biotin were required for eliminating the brain yeast.

Dana

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For us, we identified the potential allergen and the dark circles went away. We

realized it was the casein and kept it away.

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> > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my son

> > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it is

> > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Haven

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[Guest guest]

I guess I was wondering why you said 'if they are there all day, then they are

allergies, not yeast.' Why all day for allergies and not yeast? That was what

I was hoping you could expand upon.

Gracias,

Pam

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> > > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my

son

> > > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> > > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it

is

> > > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Haven

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I should have said all day every day when they were consuming milk products. It

must not be yeast because we did not treat for yeast, we treated for casein

allergy and the circles went away. If it were yeast, then the circles would most

probably still be there since we did not treat for yeast. We only discovered the

allergen, removed it, and they went away. The dark circles are called Allergic

Shiners because they are from allergens, not yeast. (Otherwise, I guess they

would call them yeast shiners.)

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> > > > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what my

son

> > > > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad respiratory

> > > > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now it

is

> > > > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Haven

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[Guest guest]

Okie Dokie.

Maybe a yeast allergy?

Pam (how long can I keep this topic going)

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> > > > > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is what

my son

> > > > > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad

respiratory

> > > > > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > > > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but now

it is

> > > > > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haven

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[Guest guest]

Ours was a casein allergy. Our circles are gone. Nothing more to it.

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> > > > > > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is

what my son

> > > > > > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad

respiratory

> > > > > > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is the

> > > > > > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but

now it is

> > > > > > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Haven

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[Guest guest]

Just to confuse the issue more ;o) my NT 3yo is milk protein intolerant and he

constantly had dark circles. We removed all milk products and the 'shiners' then

only appeared when he consumed a food that had ANY kind of additive. So we

removed those permanently as well and now no more circles.

Same happened with my 7yo ASD when we first started biomed except list of

allergins is much more exhaustive. Even environmental exposures can produce

these dark circles. Now diet is stable, only happens in our house when kids

bodies are overburdened with toxins and can't eliminate them without some help.

For us, 'shiners' are a sign that a long soak in an epsom salt bath is needed.

This always works here.

---- agirlnamedsuess21 <agirlnamedsuess@...> wrote:

> Ours was a casein allergy. Our circles are gone. Nothing more to it.

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> > > > > > > > So how do we get rid of brain yeast? I am pretty sure this is

what my son

> > > > > > > > has. I also think it is the culprit regarding the myriad

respiratory

> > > > > > > > infections he gets. what do we need to do? the worst part is

the

> > > > > > > > stimming. by age four, he had completely stopped stimming, but

now it is

> > > > > > > > pretty constant unless he is actively engaged.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Haven

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