Re: Parent banned from the list

[Guest guest]

How is it possible that another member who regularly causes great uproar on

this list, like calling people names and making personal attacks when they

don't agree with him--is still on the list, and someone else was kicked

off--and no one knows why?

In a message dated 4/19/2010 8:28:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

imyconsulting@... writes:

I find it odd that he would be banned when extremely, far worse has

happened on AM. (Just wait until the next election rolls around.)

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:34 PM, KathyB <_calicocat477@calicocat4cal_

(mailto:calicocat477@...) > wrote:

All,

I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

many of us.

Kathy

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

TJ

________________________________

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

 

All,

I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many of

us.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

cripes I hope you're wrong, 's comments have been extremely

beneficial to me .. he was the only one consistently helping with the

hair analysis, on top of his other contributions. I really hope somehow

he can be brought back. Is there a way? It's a terrible shame that a

discussion that went haywire led to this.

dang, I hate internet drama

TJ Werth wrote:

>

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

> ________________________________

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...

> <mailto:calicocat477%40sbcglobal.net>>

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you

> know Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful

> to many of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is sad.

He answered a question privately & let me know he was removed. He did not share

the reason behind it. He felt it was private.

Everyone please let the moderator know who much he helped.

Kathy

From: john <whitmer.j.s@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Parent banned from the list

Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 4:57 PM

 

cripes I hope you're wrong, 's comments have been extremely

beneficial to me .. he was the only one consistently helping with the

hair analysis, on top of his other contributions. I really hope somehow

he can be brought back. Is there a way? It's a terrible shame that a

discussion that went haywire led to this.

dang, I hate internet drama

TJ Werth wrote:

>

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@ sbcglobal. net

> <mailto:calicocat47 7%40sbcglobal. net>>

>

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you

> know Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful

> to many of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I thought this group is for helping the children.  How does banning an

extremely helpful member help the children?  

>

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@ sbcglobal. net

> <mailto:calicocat47 7%40sbcglobal. net>>

>

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you

> know Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful

> to many of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can the moderator confirm this for us please?

Personally, I think that was a great asset to the board.

Very sad if this is true...

Jen

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good question. Better questio is why are you telling us this?

Just curious.

I have no idea who he is.

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>  

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Go under , members, then moderators. There are 4 moderators.

Tammy

[ ] Parent banned from the list

>

> Â

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.  I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was dangerous, which

doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He was consistently one of the

listmates who would take the time and answer questions and look over hair result

tests and immediatly reply to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my

opinion he was an asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was

removed.

[Guest guest]

I completely agree. If any other members agree as well, please respond

and let the moderators know. I hope that whatever caused his removal can

somehow otherwise be addressed. Let's keep in mind the ultimate goal of

helping our families. I have absolutely NO idea who the man is behind

the emails, but he's been a very responsive and beneficial member from

what little I've seen, especially when it comes to interpreting the hair

test results.

LINDA wrote:

>

> Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was

> dangerous, which doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He

> was consistently one of the listmates who would take the time and

> answer questions and look over hair result tests and immediatly reply

> to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my opinion he was an

> asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was removed.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree.... was a great asset.  Maybe he will come back as a new

name....shouldn't be to hard.

PWC

________________________________

From: LINDA <lpopick@...>

Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 7:33:28 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Parent banned from the list

 

Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was dangerous, which

doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He was consistently one of the

listmates who would take the time and answer questions and look over hair result

tests and immediatly reply to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my

opinion he was an asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was

removed.

[Guest guest]

I moderated a board at one time, when a person was banned, it had it next to his

name, banned. Now, go look under members. His name was mrossgrp. I don't see

him, unless I missed it. Someone? Anyway....

I'm not sure they got an email when I clicked away. BTW - this was people just

spamming, sending inappropriate stuff.

Tammy

[ ] Re: Parent banned from the list

Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was dangerous, which

doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He was consistently one of the

listmates who would take the time and answer questions and look over hair result

tests and immediatly reply to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my

opinion he was an asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was

removed.

[Guest guest]

was he the guy who had all the info about methylation? that was really helpful!

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>  

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm actually the opposite on this. I stopped coming here because of him. He's

rude. Yes, he knows a lot, but he acts like a bully and has way too much time on

his hands. I think it was a good move. Hopefully, some of the old/knowledgeable

members will come back now.

> >

> > How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: KathyB <calicocat477@>

> >

> > Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

> >

> >  

> > All,

> >

> > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

> >

> > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Why would the moderator do this, when so many parents appreciated his advice? He

was the most dedicated member in this group. I have been here for only two

months and I read every single message that he wrote, and he did write everyday

to help us find a way. Can the moderator tell us why he/she would do something

like this, when the purpose of this group is to help parents of autistic kids?

We have enough problems to deal with. Please stop the nonsense, apologize and

invite Michaal back. We need him. We do not need this sensless drama. Enough

already.

Mimoza

>

> I moderated a board at one time, when a person was banned, it had it next to

his name, banned. Now, go look under members. His name was mrossgrp. I don't

see him, unless I missed it. Someone? Anyway....

>

> I'm not sure they got an email when I clicked away. BTW - this was people

just spamming, sending inappropriate stuff.

>

> Tammy

>

>

> [ ] Re: Parent banned from the list

>

>

> Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was dangerous,

which doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He was consistently one

of the listmates who would take the time and answer questions and look over hair

result tests and immediatly reply to my questions which I completely appreciate.

In my opinion he was an asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he

was removed.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I for one, am not concerned with whether someone comes across as rude on the

internet. For me, getting accurate advice from a knowledgeable and experienced

person in a timely fashion so as to help my child is of much more importance.

I have learnt more from 's posts than any other member during my short

time on this group and I consider this a setback in our biomedical journey.

Quite frankly, if those that post porn don't get removed from this list yet

someone like does, the integrity of the entire group comes into

question.

---- michellebondy <myrubygirl@...> wrote:

> I'm actually the opposite on this. I stopped coming here because of him. He's

rude. Yes, he knows a lot, but he acts like a bully and has way too much time on

his hands. I think it was a good move. Hopefully, some of the old/knowledgeable

members will come back now.

>

>

> > >

> > > How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> > > TJ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

> > >

> > >  

> > > All,

> > >

> > > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let

you know Ross has been banned from the group.

> > >

> > > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

many of us.

> > >

> > > Kathy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I find it odd that he would be banned when extremely, far worse has happened on

AM. (Just wait until the next election rolls around.)

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:34 PM, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:

All,

I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many of

us.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I agree. Internet etiquette is definitely important and people have

different thresholds for strong opinions, but ultimately we're all here

reading these bajillion emails because we want to heal our families.

With that goal in mind, he seemed to me to be a big asset. Is there a

way we can resolve this problem, make amends, and get him back on board?

Mistakes happen. A lot of us vaccinated our kids or had amalgams or

whatever. Some might argue that he's not irreplaceable, but I haven't

seen anyone else offer their help in analyzing the hair test results.

Let's think big picture guys.

Smyth wrote:

>

>

> I for one, am not concerned with whether someone comes across as rude

> on the internet. For me, getting accurate advice from a knowledgeable

> and experienced person in a timely fashion so as to help my child is

> of much more importance.

>

> I have learnt more from 's posts than any other member during

> my short time on this group and I consider this a setback in our

> biomedical journey.

>

> Quite frankly, if those that post porn don't get removed from this

> list yet someone like does, the integrity of the entire group

> comes into question.

>

>

>

> ---- michellebondy <myrubygirl@...

> <mailto:myrubygirl%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > I'm actually the opposite on this. I stopped coming here because of

> him. He's rude. Yes, he knows a lot, but he acts like a bully and has

> way too much time on his hands. I think it was a good move. Hopefully,

> some of the old/knowledgeable members will come back now.

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@>

> > > >

> <mailto: %40>

> > > > Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > All,

> > > >

> > > > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.  I wanted to

> let you know Ross has been banned from the group.

> > > >

> > > > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very

> helpful to many of us.

> > > >

> > > > Kathy

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I just emailed and asked.

> >

> > How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: KathyB <calicocat477@>

> >

> > Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

> >

> > Â

> > All,

> >

> > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.  I wanted to let you

know Ross has been banned from the group.

> >

> > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

many of us.

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

From what I was told, was kicked off too. So it seems their recent

arguements may have led to their removal. If that's the case that is not fair to

the group members who have come to depend on 's quick and accurate

advice. I didn't enjoy the drama but I don't feel either instigated it

or deserved to be removed because of it. If there is more to the story, a simple

explanation would be appreciated.

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

> Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

> many of us.

>

> Kathy

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't enjoy their alpha male banter but I want them back. Its about the kids

not the personalities.

Simone

On 2010-04-19, at 7:17 PM, LINDA wrote:

> From what I was told, was kicked off too. So it seems their recent

arguements may have led to their removal. If that's the case that is not fair to

the group members who have come to depend on 's quick and accurate

advice. I didn't enjoy the drama but I don't feel either instigated it

or deserved to be removed because of it. If there is more to the story, a simple

explanation would be appreciated.

>

>

> >

> > All,

> >

> > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

> > Ross has been banned from the group.

> >

> > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

> > many of us.

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Moderator

helped me massively

I think everyone says things they regret sometimes , and if a ban can be put in

place for a short time like 1-2 days then everyone should have had time to calm

down and be forgiven

is a tremendous asset to this forum in my opinion and i would 100% ask

he be forgiven

from peter ( daughter Sophie aged 5) who he is helping to cure without even

knowing her

From: calicocat477@...

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:10:15 -0700

Subject: Re: [ ] Parent banned from the list

It is sad.

He answered a question privately & let me know he was removed. He did not share

the reason behind it. He felt it was private.

Everyone please let the moderator know who much he helped.

Kathy

From: john <whitmer.j.s@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Parent banned from the list

Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 4:57 PM

cripes I hope you're wrong, 's comments have been extremely

beneficial to me .. he was the only one consistently helping with the

hair analysis, on top of his other contributions. I really hope somehow

he can be brought back. Is there a way? It's a terrible shame that a

discussion that went haywire led to this.

dang, I hate internet drama

TJ Werth wrote:

>

>

> How do you know this? Do you know a moderator personally?

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: KathyB <calicocat477@ sbcglobal. net

> <mailto:calicocat47 7%40sbcglobal. net>>

>

> <mailto:Autism- Mercury%40g roups.com>

> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:34:33 PM

> Subject: [ ] Parent banned from the list

>

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you

> know Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful

> to many of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes

I found Best very rude - but Id still want him here as his information is

vital I think

We are trying to save our kids lives - these people help and I can put up with

rudeness forever if it helps my daughter get better

It is clear the prioirty - please bring them both back once they have cooled

off..

>

> From: faubert@...

> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:16:55 -0700

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Parent banned from the list

>

> I didn't enjoy their alpha male banter but I want them back. Its about the

kids not the personalities.

> Simone

>

> On 2010-04-19, at 7:17 PM, LINDA wrote:

>

> > From what I was told, was kicked off too. So it seems their recent

arguements may have led to their removal. If that's the case that is not fair to

the group members who have come to depend on 's quick and accurate

advice. I didn't enjoy the drama but I don't feel either instigated it

or deserved to be removed because of it. If there is more to the story, a simple

explanation would be appreciated.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > All,

> > >

> > > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

> > > Ross has been banned from the group.

> > >

> > > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

> > > many of us.

> > >

> > > Kathy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have been on here for over three years, I have never heard of anyone being

kicked off unless they were selling something. What is going on?

>

> All,

>

> I'm a newer member of the list and am learning.   I wanted to let you know

Ross has been banned from the group.

>

> I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to many

of us.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What if people who still wanted their advice could just email them directly? I

really think people should be respectful and not answer condescendingly/rudely

to others, even when they're sure they're right and the other person is quite

ignorant. However, the porn post are about enough to drive me off, too. It

would be worth renaming the group and having everybody re-join through moderator

approval & the " wavy " code method, to me.

> >

> > All,

> >

> > I'm a newer member of the list and am learning. I wanted to let you know

> > Ross has been banned from the group.

> >

> > I'm very sorry to see him have to leave, as he has been very helpful to

> > many of us.

> >

> > Kathy

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >