Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hi Dana, Can you please share with the group why Ross was removed from the group? Should we be concerned with the advice he was given? I think a lot of us are very dissapointed he was banned and feel the need for an explanation. At least set our minds at ease that the advice he was dispensing was appropriate and helpful as I for one have been learning and following the protocol along with his guidance and suggestions. Thanks for any information you are willing to share P. > > > > Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was > > dangerous, which doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He > > was consistently one of the listmates who would take the time and > > answer questions and look over hair result tests and immediatly reply > > to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my opinion he was an > > asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was removed. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Second this. Please if the reason was banned b/c he was dispensing bad advice, we need to know. If it was just his style of communication, people can chose not to read his messages. I find his comments useful and very timely. He makes the time to respond and explain. > > > > > > Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was > > > dangerous, which doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He > > > was consistently one of the listmates who would take the time and > > > answer questions and look over hair result tests and immediatly reply > > > to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my opinion he was an > > > asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was removed. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I would also like the moderators to be transparent about their reasons for banning or restricting member activity in the forum. I can't claim to follow all discussions here, but I think that what is missing from this group is some open moderator intervention in controversial posts to quiet things and warn members that they are deviating from the rules. Maybe even put a particular member on moderation for a while until things calm down, but I think this should be done openly. It seems to me that has had a lot of good advice. He knows the AC protocol and helps other parents and it's not like there are tons of folks on the forum who have the time to help us out. I'm with others who say let's try to manage our members a bit better to preserve the precious help they give parents. I've offered to help moderate in the past & am still willing to help out. > > > > Hi Dana, > > Can you please share with the group why Ross was removed from the group? Should we be concerned with the advice he was given? I think a lot of us are very dissapointed he was banned and feel the need for an explanation. At least set our minds at ease that the advice he was dispensing was appropriate and helpful as I for one have been learning and following the protocol along with his guidance and suggestions. > > > > Thanks for any information you are willing to share > > P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Below is general information that, at the direction of the list owner, I apply consistently to everyone. I remove members from the group who will not follow the list rules, even after repeated warning. Those who post obvious spam are not provided warnings. I don't remove people who give advice which I question or disagree with. Only for violations of list rules. When I notice violations of list rules, I send private emails. I warn anyone [except those who post obvious spam] that appears to be violating list rules. Banning anyone does not mean that the person can't just sign up again under a different ID. Spammers do this all the time. So can anyone else. Dana [moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 It was because of the fight that he was having with Best. They were both banned. This has been an ongoing arguement between the two. I'm not saying I agree, but that's what happened. Had nothing to do with his advice. He is very knowledgeable. Basically he repeats what Andy says, just like I try to do sometimes. If you read Andy's books and comprehend their meaning by really studying them, you too can be helpful to other parents who are new and struggling. TJ ________________________________ From: sky2sun2moon <sky2sun22@...> Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 6:36:21 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Parent banned from the list-question for Dana, the moderator  Second this. Please if the reason was banned b/c he was dispensing bad advice, we need to know. If it was just his style of communication, people can chose not to read his messages. I find his comments useful and very timely. He makes the time to respond and explain. > > > > > > Unless was giving wrong information or his advice was > > > dangerous, which doesn't seem to be the case...why was he removed? He > > > was consistently one of the listmates who would take the time and > > > answer questions and look over hair result tests and immediatly reply > > > to my questions which I completely appreciate. In my opinion he was an > > > asset and I think a lot of us are confused as to why he was removed. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 News of my uncommunicativeness/unreasonableness have been greatly exaggerated? but not my impropriety, perhaps.. These groups are owned and operated by people under the protocol they represent (of such propriety) It may not represent libertarianism (Libertarianism usually doesn't represent libertarianism, fully, as I understand It ) I *don't* believe a principled person would sneak back under the guise of another identity, though, if it was the truth of understanding they were about? I would understand if Ross didn't return in that respect.. I wouldn't either, being as principled as I am, Thereof? (Catch me lying and you've caught me being a liar, which I feel is Universally Disassociating. Rather than pretending that that is a principled option, I'd rather just implore the moderators here to consider letting Ross say his peace to the membership, (at least to thank everyone for being as principled as they are for him?) and to reconsider reinstating his membership here based on the consideration and goodwill that he seems to have earned in that respect? of such principles I'd be thinking, but I do understand that it is your call Dana, and the owners and operators of what message we would be conveying otherwise, as little as I actually know of the accused/bounced in that respect, but hoping to understand more of All (for such justness) Thereof.. . Would it help (the *combatants,* perhaps?) if I said I'm sorry for the way humanity is and that I will do my best to help make it better?/more meaningful? (Fill in the blanks on how I aim to rectify the situation? , and ?) because that's also what I mean in saying what I do and being what I am, what I Feel I am.. . I would expect as much for myself as anyone, of an outburst perhaps, that I am not typically about but only human of in that respect? of what I am also if not especially regretful about where not all that a human can be by admitting as much.. in doing as much as usually can be done about it? of what is *Primary,* Thereof While I'm at it I would like to hear more directly from you Dana and all our, moderators? (of Communication?) and feel you are wonderful if not ever so inspiring (of doing what you feel you have to do for us, of a tough job indeed -- and there is no doubt that enforcement/reinforcement is a primary issue, of walking the walk, no doubt, of such principle.. my hat is off to you in that respect) of saying all you do, that you do, which is more than I find on *most* boards, oh yeah, (of another reason why we are here, Hello?) of the example I believe you truly set (so maybe your call was an outburst, too? or could have been.. . Hey, I probably make more mistakes than anyone in getting to where I've gotten to, of such principle/s, as it pertains to Communication? where they would be mistakes in that respect (where I figure overt lying is the only thing that lets people get away with how really abusive and bad they could be, otherwise.. . I'd rather expose my enemy in dealing with them? where they are my enemy (of setting such a fine example? with me on board of as much?) of making them my friend/s (or associates) by as much, as good as that should prove in developing the more meaningful behavior for one and All, Thereof That would be just me of course, for one and All of as much, if not for more, Thereof, of my having put my faith in as much, (of Communication being The answer) I'd be thinking, as Feeling, of as much, so far, of Understanding More, Thereof Communication has more ways of dealing with the problem, of Communication? than, we might realize, otherwise, is my sense of It of this, of as much If we're all (some of us?) suggesting this *is* how we communicate, well, then, I figure we have room for improvement and let's get on with It.. . Glavic My take on all this where you should be concerned about as much, but I wasn't following the alleged argument or transgression/s, which I don't feel should make such a big difference with respect to my point/s (with respect to my not being drawn into so much trouble, perhaps.. . > > Below is general information that, at the direction of the list owner, I apply consistently to everyone. > > I remove members from the group who will not follow the list rules, even after repeated warning. Those who post obvious spam are not provided warnings. > > I don't remove people who give advice which I question or disagree with. Only for violations of list rules. > > When I notice violations of list rules, I send private emails. I warn anyone [except those who post obvious spam] that appears to be violating list rules. > > Banning anyone does not mean that the person can't just sign up again under a different ID. Spammers do this all the time. So can anyone else. > > Dana > [moderator] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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