Sudden visual & head shaking stimms - what can it be?

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We have done 80 rounds with my son on the AC protocol - and in the last several

rounds he has been just great, so calm, more NT seeming. However, about a week

ago just before round 80 this weekend, he started doing weird stimms with his

eyes and a shake of his head every so often, very disturbing. He has not had

visual stimms since the early days of biomed when he was 2, he will be 5 this

week.

I did start him on low dose B6 (P5P) about 2 weeks ago, and I did up the dose

slowly from 10 to 20 mg in divided doses. At 5 and 10 mg he was fine. Up until

recently he couldn't tolerate b vites at all. Now with a no phenol enzyme he

can. I tried lowering the B6 back to 5 mg and the stimms persisted. So we

stopped the B6 altogether. Still the visual stimms persisted on round. After a

day or so the B6 should be out of the system I would think, as it is water

soluble.

I thought maybe B6 may have kicked up yeast, but he has regular normal bowels,

and no yeast symptoms whatsoever otherwise since about round 50. I gave him

some Pau D'Arco, anyway and yeast enzymes but it made no difference to the

stimm.

Could it be we are moving metals and that is causing the stimm? Otherwise I put

him on B12 orally about 6 weeks ago, after having been off of B12 for almost a

year (previously we did shots but they had a negative effect after a while) and

we have held steady at 1000 mcg 3 x a day, plus 400 mcg of folinic acid with

each B12 dose and 125mg of dmg, for several weeks now and this has not been a

problem. Should we try to lower or eliminate B12 or folinic or dmg? I hate to

do this, since it appears to have helped language, and until I gave him the B6

with it, we never saw such stimms.

Also, we had to stop all vitamin A about a month and a half ago because my son

kept going toxic. He has never been able to tolerate synthetic vitamin A at

all, and the most A he ever got was for a period of months he got 10,000 iu of A

in a high vitamin CLO. However recently even as little as 2000 iu of A in CLO

would make him go toxic. I know vitamin A is purported to help with visual

stimms. So I have introduced a small bit of CLO again - 2500 iu a day of A in

it. The stimms have lessened since I did this, but still he does this weird

shake of the head thing every so often.

So I don't know what to do - is it the b vites, the methylators, just moving

metals? Or should I examine all of his supps one by one taking away and adding

them back in to see if I can find the culprit. Any ideas out there? We would

really like our calm boy back. We feel somehow it must be supplement related,

or perhaps related to moving metals on round. We are perplexed.

Thanks. Irene

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When our son shook his head like this, it was parasites.

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On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:31 PM, " iflow97 " <iflow97@...> wrote:

We have done 80 rounds with my son on the AC protocol - and in the last several

rounds he has been just great, so calm, more NT seeming. However, about a week

ago just before round 80 this weekend, he started doing weird stimms with his

eyes and a shake of his head every so often, very disturbing. He has not had

visual stimms since the early days of biomed when he was 2, he will be 5 this

week.

I did start him on low dose B6 (P5P) about 2 weeks ago, and I did up the dose

slowly from 10 to 20 mg in divided doses. At 5 and 10 mg he was fine. Up until

recently he couldn't tolerate b vites at all. Now with a no phenol enzyme he

can. I tried lowering the B6 back to 5 mg and the stimms persisted. So we

stopped the B6 altogether. Still the visual stimms persisted on round. After a

day or so the B6 should be out of the system I would think, as it is water

soluble.

I thought maybe B6 may have kicked up yeast, but he has regular normal bowels,

and no yeast symptoms whatsoever otherwise since about round 50. I gave him some

Pau D'Arco, anyway and yeast enzymes but it made no difference to the stimm.

Could it be we are moving metals and that is causing the stimm? Otherwise I put

him on B12 orally about 6 weeks ago, after having been off of B12 for almost a

year (previously we did shots but they had a negative effect after a while) and

we have held steady at 1000 mcg 3 x a day, plus 400 mcg of folinic acid with

each B12 dose and 125mg of dmg, for several weeks now and this has not been a

problem. Should we try to lower or eliminate B12 or folinic or dmg? I hate to do

this, since it appears to have helped language, and until I gave him the B6 with

it, we never saw such stimms.

Also, we had to stop all vitamin A about a month and a half ago because my son

kept going toxic. He has never been able to tolerate synthetic vitamin A at all,

and the most A he ever got was for a period of months he got 10,000 iu of A in a

high vitamin CLO. However recently even as little as 2000 iu of A in CLO would

make him go toxic. I know vitamin A is purported to help with visual stimms. So

I have introduced a small bit of CLO again - 2500 iu a day of A in it. The

stimms have lessened since I did this, but still he does this weird shake of the

head thing every so often.

So I don't know what to do - is it the b vites, the methylators, just moving

metals? Or should I examine all of his supps one by one taking away and adding

them back in to see if I can find the culprit. Any ideas out there? We would

really like our calm boy back. We feel somehow it must be supplement related, or

perhaps related to moving metals on round. We are perplexed.

Thanks. Irene