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Here is a list of possible signs compiled by Anita in the Files sections. It is

entitled Viral Information and Resources . . .

http://tinyurl.com/y8vzeuh

What might viral issues look like in my child?

I have been unable to establish any precise list of what viral signs would look

like—there is too much controversy. Some of the signs listed are considered

soft signs while others are considered more valid indicators. It would depend

on who you spoke to which category any of these possible indicators falls into.

In researching this file I read many times that dealing with viral issues is

sometimes like chelating autistic children: the only way to know for sure if it

is going to work is to try it and do it properly.

Some children might display the following signs:

Motor problems, including fine motor problems. Sometimes these problems are

one-sided (often the right side seems weaker). Some people believe that

toe-walking is also a sign.

The child seems to move from improved behaviour to more autistic behaviour for

no apparent reason. These cycles of progression then regression might last

weeks or months.

Less autistic behaviours during and immediately following fevers followed by a

return to more typical behaviours after this time has passed.

Chronic viral-like illnesses or no symptoms of ever being sick.

Negative reaction after MMR vaccination.

Cold sores/fever blisters/unexplained sores in or around mouth. Warts, plantar

warts.

Continual gut problems in spite of all possible efforts to alleviate them.

Improvement while on antibiotics—this may be a result of a concomitant bacterial

problem.

Hyperactivity

OCD, scripting, repeating fairly meaningless actions (tics) or sounds.

Staying in own world (see for example the recovery video of Ethan as mentioned

below for this last one).

Sensory integration disorder, eye or ear sensitivity

Hypotonia.

> Ok since my son just goes 'crazy " with anti-viral medication and even the

'naturals' I am wondering is this a good indicator that he may have some stuff

going on in his body that is making him act out when given anti virals?

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> Ok since my son just goes 'crazy " with anti-viral medication and even the

'naturals' I am wondering is this a good indicator that he may have some stuff

going on in his body that is making him act out when given anti virals?

Viral die off caused a lot of yeast overgrowth here. So if your child has

viruses and you give anti-virals, you will probably see yeast overgrowth.

> also someone said there was no need to use anti viral b/c the removing of

metals should also help with this b/c they attach themselves to the

metals.please eleborate on this if possible.

Chelation did not affect viruses here.

Dana

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For us, chelation was enough without the antivirals. I believe that DMSA is an

antiviral, possibly the antiretroviral Dr. Yasko claims it is. I have recently

been taking l-lysine myself and wowzer, it's kicking my butt!! I have lots of

sores in my mouth, got quite sick/achy feeling and I am still sore. I decided I

couldn't handle chelating this weekend because of it. I think you are going to

know whether you CAN do it or not. If chelation is going pretty smooth and

yeast is generally under control, then go ahead. Then again, maybe you could

rotate, chelation one weekend, antivirals the next. Don't know how anyone else

feels about that, but it might be worth considering. (I'm considering it as I

type this :)

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> I posted earlier about if I should treat for viruses at this stage of

chelation.Most of you said yes.We had done tests years ago were there was bo

indication of viruses in my child but I think this is proabbly inaccurate.

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> Ok since my son just goes 'crazy " with anti-viral medication and even the

'naturals' I am wondering is this a good indicator that he may have some stuff

going on in his body that is making him act out when given anti virals?

>

> also someone said there was no need to use anti viral b/c the removing of

metals should also help with this b/c they attach themselves to the

metals.please eleborate on this if possible.

>

> thanks for your help....jake's mom :)

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Some organisms are very toxic when they die, which can be very stressful,

physically, and can have psychological fall-out as well. For me, probably the

biggest challenge with getting well is pacing myself so that I don't have

excessive and overwhelming negative side effects -- in other words, killing

stuff at a pace that actually reduces infection overall without being too much

to handle. When you kill infection, the body has a bunch of dead stuff in it

that has to be shoveled out somehow and other things can feed on that dead stuff

(like yeast, but I think also other infections). So reducing one infection can

temporarily make another worse. This can be a tricky balancing act.

If you haven't done this yet, you might try starting natural, nutritional

antivirals at a low dose and gradually increasing it. It is possible that your

child " goes crazy " because the dose is too high and this is causing bad die off

which is simply overwhelming his system with toxic die-off.

You might try Celtic sea salt. Salt is a major component of mucus. Mucus lines

all the organs that are involved in letting things into or out of the body (the

mouth, the lungs, the sinuses, the digestive tract, female reproductive tract).

My genetic disorder causes major problems with all of these organs and also

causes the body to misprocess salt. My experience has been that a good quality

sea salt has gone a long way towards improving my baseline health. I believe

sea salt provides nutritional support for the production of healthy mucus and

this closes a major gateway to infection in people with cystic fibrosis. It

seems obvious to me that inadequate nutritional support for mucus production

would cause anyone to be more vulnerable to infection. So if you think there is

a problem with infection, I think this is a primary issue to address.

Correcting PH balance is the other major pathway to infection that I have worked

on with tremendous success. People with my genetic disorder tend to be highly

acid and the American diet is generally too acid. Work on a healthy PH balance

(not too acid and not too alkaline -- though most people are too acid, it is

possible to go too far in the other direction) and you will see a general

decline in infection. Correct PH balance is a primary defense against virii in

specific. I rarely get colds now that I have that issue under control most of

the time.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> I posted earlier about if I should treat for viruses at this stage of

chelation.Most of you said yes.We had done tests years ago were there was bo

indication of viruses in my child but I think this is proabbly inaccurate.

>

> Ok since my son just goes 'crazy " with anti-viral medication and even the

'naturals' I am wondering is this a good indicator that he may have some stuff

going on in his body that is making him act out when given anti virals?

>

> also someone said there was no need to use anti viral b/c the removing of

metals should also help with this b/c they attach themselves to the

metals.please eleborate on this if possible.

>

> thanks for your help....jake's mom :)

>

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