Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue/Indigo child

March 2, 2010

Well said. I would have never entertained the thought of recovering my son if

some celebrity hadn't done it first. Mother Warriors made me think maybe my kid

was not born autistic, he was damaged by mercury. I remember reading about all

these kids having seizures and intestinal problems like horrible diarrhea, and I

remembered when I worked for a veterinarian and a dog or cat came in with these

symptoms. First thing we thought was, " What poison could it have got into " . So

I figured why not investigate more. My son is almost indistinguishable now. I

can't even get funding because he looks so good. Thank you , thank you

chelation.

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From: mosaictm <sunshine369@...>

Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:01:07 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue/Indigo child

For the record.... I found autism treatment and the AC chelation method FROM THE

GR website!!! I was on the GR website because McCarthy was the only human

being I could find who said " YES, your kid can get better. " I was a mom who had

never paid her a bit of attention, and quite honestly thought she was a bit of a

loud mouthed obnoxious floozy, but I'd hear some stirrings about McCarthy

had a kid with autism who got better, so I looked further, and lo and behold I

ENDED UP HERE. We are now chelating AC method and my kid is getting really close

to recovery.

So for that, I do give Ms. McCarthy credit - she brought my attention to autism

RECOVERY, and I gathered from her story that I had to DO MY OWN looking into

things.

THAT's the bottom line for me. And I talk to anybody who will listen about

vaccines and getting the toxins OUT. I'm not the only one, either. I hope I come

from a place of caring and not negativity, which can turn people off. (By the

way, while the delivery method is caustic, and the rantings seem crazed, I

happen to be glad that we have a Best out there to check everybody out -

keeps us on our toes). I think the anger and energy could be put to better use.

Really, how about the dirty politicians? How about the freaking drug reps in the

doctor's offices looking for their big bonuses? How about the shameful

pediatricians who NEVER EVEN READ a package insert or an actual vaccine study,

but just read sham journal articles??? Why not the shareholders for the vaccine

manufacturers? How many righteous people out there don't realize their

retirement in Boca is funded by shots going into every new American baby that

has aborted fetal tissue in it? For

heaven's sake - go to the head of the fish!

I don't give a crap what the general public thinks about McCarthy or any

other ASD parent, or me. It IS too many, too soon. When we only got 10 shots

from age 2 - 18 it was still pointless and poison, but autism was practically

unheard of. God - if all we CAN do right now with a deaf public is slow down and

lighten the schedule, well, THAT is better than being written off as those

" autism vaccine crazies " which I am one of. I also happen to believe in

individual choice. I CHOSE not to listen to my holistic health friends, I CHOSE

not to look into it and to just " listen to the doctor, he should know best.... "

- and no one would have changed my mind. I had no real reason to believe one

side or the other, or even to look into it.

NOW, I happen to think all vaccines and most modern day " medical care " is the

biggest sham and phony going. And I make choices for my familiy based on my

beliefs - I avoid pharmaceuticals, both Rx and OTC, and doctors if we can at all

help it - and for years we have.

It doesn't even matter. The general public WANTS to stay ignorant and uniformed

and believe what they hear on the news - AND WE WERE JUST LIKE THAT TOO - or we

wouldn't be here with our toxic poisoned kids, now, would we? We drank the

Kool-Aid, at one time, too. What sweet bliss ignorance is. To NOT know about

autism first hand - can we even remember what that is like?

As well, I know someone who has a kid with autism, who was never vaccinated. So

in THAT case, it is not thimerosal, but I think it is MERCURY - probably the

mother's amalgams and general toxicity from eating a lot of seafood - as well as

antimony, arsenic, aluminum from cookware, viruses, etc.

YES, I DO believe mercury and thimerosol are HUGE culprits. But there are so

many different variations of autism, and they all may not be " just " the

thimerosol. YES, I think mercury, in our vaccines and environment is the biggest

culprit - and all the other crap: MSG, other toxins, God knows what all viruses

and bacteria being shot into babies that can get carried across the BBB - create

the different colorations.

As far as " indigo " kids. I personally hate that term and find most people use it

to make their kid who is standing out, seem " better " than the sheeple kids

somehow. Whatever. I've had many people say my kid was an " indigo " kid, and I

just took that as a nice way to say he's atypical, but still cute and funny, but

GOD! I wouldn't want to have to raise him! I know those who DO embrace the

" indigo " label for religious/spiritual reasons AND STILL try to recover their

kids. The belief there being that we each and all choose our path here on earth

and as sick as it is that our kids are poisoned, they signed up for it before

coming to earth for this life so as to teach and show the greed, corruption,

wrong ways of our world. Who CARES??????

The system isn't going to wake up and do right. Big pharma controls practically

everything. They are making more of US than them. So eventually we will out

number them and that will be that.

I focus on my kid, helping other parents, and making MY personal life choices to

reflect my beliefs. This isn't the forum for convincing people that

vaccines/mercury/ thimerosol is toxic. Puh- leeze! We are here because we DO

believe it - we live it and we are chelating to GET THE MERCURY OUT.

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of what she was doing before she had the doctors involved. I can get you would

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> Stick it out... we'll stop fighting pretty soon! This is normal.

THIS IS TRUE. Soon the snow will have melted so will be able to

sneak onto the local golf courses and smack his little balls around with

long metal sticks. Then we won't here from him until the next snow fall.

March 3, 2010

Pam,

I'm sure it makes a lot of mothers feel good to call themselves " mother

warriors " and congratulate each other for making some noise. However, this

movement is still nowhere.

The mercury is still in the flu shot. It's still in all the other shots that

are shot into babies all over the world outside of the USA, England, and some

other wealthy countries.

The mercury in the flu shot serves Pharma very well. It causes the autism in

the womb so that parents never see a normal child regress. This makes it easier

for Pharma and Autism Speaks to " sell " their lies about autism being genetic.

It's not just about either. Kirby wrote his book for one reason, to

sell us out. He said so in his " author's note " when he told everyone that he

would never condone the treatments we use here to cure our kids. Anyone who has

cured their kid, or gained great improvement, should know that Kirby does

not approve. He said so. Go read his book and check. So, why is he allowed to

speak for us?

" Mother warriors " are not raising their voices in the right places. They aren't

passing out information at supermarkets. They aren't running for office. They

aren't picketing doctor's offices. They aren't hounding school districts to

help. And they won't take simple actions like I did to inform the public by

painting signs on their cars or nailing small " billboards " to trees to try to

offset the brainwashing advertising from Pharma and the CDC. However, they do

scream " too many, too soon " which takes the blame off of mercury.

Every time GR blames too many vaccines without using the word " thimerosal " , they

are helping Pharma.

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March 3, 2010

You can try Calms Forte, it's a homeopathic, over the counter item you can

try for sleep, Rescue Sleep Spray by Bach, and /or L-Theanine.

Kathy

Re: [ ] Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue/Indigo child

I am so happy for your child. So how long did you chelate so far. I know you

said since 2003, but was that every weekend? I would be so curioius to see

if he could sleep on his own. The " sleep " thing is our biggest problem.

Comes 6pm she gets violent, confused and never sleeps.

On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Best wrote:

March 3, 2010

Ah - but my kid regressed at 4. The flu shot contributed to that. My point is,

the movement isn't going to go anywhere. We could get every autism family in

America together and we'd still not have the money and power to fight those who

profit from our kid's being poisoned. The change will come from the ground up-

little by little, as more and more Moms see their neighbor's kids and their

nephews being ravaged by vaccines (and I do mean vaccines, not just

thimerosol)and then being recovered when the metal and viral issues are

addressed. Those moms will NOT shot up their kids. The doctors will lose

business and money. It will not be anything that changes with some sweeping

mandate or from the politicians down. Who do you think pays for them to be in

office? Not us.

You seem to think there is concensus that thimerosol ALONE is the sole and only

autism cause. You are going to find that not everyone buys into that - so you

know seem like a one note piano. Let it go.

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March 3, 2010

True, thimerosal is not the only cause. Mercury is the only cause and it comes

from other sources, dental amalgams and breastmilk. Vaccines can not cause

autism without mercury. If they could, they would have started causing autism

in 1798. As we know, they did not cause autism until 1931 when mercury was

added to them.

Vaccines can cause other problems, some of which may be mistakenly lumped into

the autism diagnosis. Fragile X, Rhetts, fetal alcohol syndrome, lack of oxygen

and other things are routinely diagnosed as autism. They don't belong there.

You don't need any money to beat Pharma if people learn how to fight instead of

playing by the government's rules. As I've stated, you can make your own

billboards with an old piece of wood and some paint. Will you do that? Do you

have $10 for a sheet of plywood?

Why are you waiting for more kids to be injured? Why don't you take action to

prevent those injuries?

No, I won't let it go when you have been conned into believing nonsense by

Kirby, Handley and Pharma. We all knew mercury was the cause until those people

decided to start blaming other things to help Pharma with their propaganda. You

were gullible enough to follow them. I wasn't. Now you know better. It's no

shame to admit you fell for a scam but it's foolish to continue to believe it

after you know the truth.

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March 3, 2010

What do you consider a Troll?? I am not quite sure what you mean. Thanks,

Margaret

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March 3, 2010

I don't call myself a Warrior; ever. I'm not too interested in calling

attention to myself. Historically speaking, it has always been the parents who

have noticed things before the doctors. Any pediatrician will tell you that.

Moms are critical in keeping Autism in the headlines. Dads, too; just so you

don't think I think men are worthless.

So, if you don't want to be called a Troll, then I suggest you stop name calling

yourself. I know that is a DUH, kindgergarten teaching moment, but I really

think you don't see how you push us away instead of make us listen. I guarantee

that is your effect outside of our circles, too.

I don't blast you because you fail to rant on dental amalgams and the ADA. I

don't belittle you because you aren't front and center in the picket lines to

stop coal burning power plants. These are also major sources of mercury

exposure. I don't see why you are so bent on crucifying someone like

McCarthy because she doesn't hone in on flu shots in pregnancy. I guess there

is just a lot of history here I don't understand (between you and GR).

So, I would love to stay and chat more, but The Price is Right will be on soon

and I need to finish rinsing out my push-up bras (they prevent sagging!) before

air time.

Have an awesome day, everyone!

Pam

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March 3, 2010

" Stupid show for bored housewives " , once again you are out of touch with the

times(I am sensing a mullet here).Â Â Like I said , the oprah factor , she

recommends a product and a mom/pop shop goes to a million dollar business. Oprah

is not the definition of bored house wives .Â You have a point , men don't

watch/listen to oprah but half the population are women.Â Also, has been

on Larry King live etc. I think is getting the message out there. Â

First , if anyone thinks is a nut it is because she is going against main

stream.Â These same people think Wakefield is a quack or anyone who goes

against main stream are quacks.Â If you read back in history, this is the way

it goes.Â You think the world is not flat, you must be a nut job. Look how long

it took for chiro-practors to gain respect, I think the main stream docs still

call them quacks.Â Â I fully expect that people are going to take many years

and many findings before this way of thinking is excepted.

I am surprised that you of all peopleÂ would think if we just change our

spokesperson everyone wouldÂ sit up and believe that vaccines are harmful, they

eradicated polio, they were this societies saving grace...or so at least

everyone believes .Â We have a huge battle that is not going to be won by

changing our spokesperson.Â

PWC

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From: Best <bettwice33@...>

Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 5:03:52 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Fraud from Generation Rescue/Indigo child

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No males give any creedence to anything that's shown on Oprah, except maybe Rick

Tallman. It's a stupid show for bored housewives. Most people see as a

nut. There are better ways to learn about autism. We all learned about it with

no trouble at all before she showed up.

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Is a troll someone who advertises? That is what I gather from the post. Is

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Margaret

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Can we all agree that we are doing our best to help our children?? It does not

help anyone to fire arguments back and forth. If believes that what he is

doing is going to help all of our kids then great. Let him do it. We don't need

to fight over it. I believe that my child is mercury toxic which is probably in

part because of vaccinations. It is also in part because I have 19 amalgam

fillings in my mouth. It is also because I have not made the best food choices,

I have lived in a world with pollution, I nursed my son until he was 3 1/2 yrs

old. I have made many mistakes. I thought I was doing what was best for my

family. Now we are suffering the consequences. I just want to get my son well.

Anything that will help and not hurt him I am willing to try. I do sign

petitions for political action that I agree with. I am doing my best to raise

four children. I praise anyone who fights in the right direction. Let's get

our kiddos well!! That is the bottom line. My son does have heavy metal

poisoning which I know because of hair tests. I chelate when I feel well enough

and when my son feels well enough. This is every other weekend or perhaps

longer. I give supplements that I have researched. I am doing the best I can.

Can we agree that that is what we all are doing?

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accurate lol) then I have found them to be a great resource.

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March 3, 2010

Margaret - Amen. Many of us in the heat of the battle now, don't have the

energy outside of our life to add more. Family first. Researching all this,

supplements, diets, chelation, it all takes time and money. I educate and

preach when I can and have very strong believes to what is wrong with this

country. But raising a family, work and all the demands of life, it's a little

over whelming.

- we all want the same thing. Can we please move on. Enough!!!!

Tammy

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