Re: screaming and mouthing objects all the time!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Emerson,

What yeast protocols or treatments have you tried? What dosages and timing are

you using for chelators?

>

> We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short outbursts,

lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the end of the

day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger daughter

having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say her

first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if the

screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

>

> Thanks,

> Emerson

>

[Guest guest]

> We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly!

At my house, mouthing objects was caused by yeast overgrowth.

>>her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes turn outward

I eliminated this problem with my #4, with chelation, anti-virals, and lots of

biotin.

If she has a yeast problem, I would start by adding biotin.

>>yeast and the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see

no change.

Increase the yeast protocol. I had to use a LOT of biotin and GSE during

chelation.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I finally got my son's mouthing resolved by giving biotin,GSE and OLE as per

Dana's advice 3 times a day. Before that we tried for 7 years w varied

results.Thanks Dana ...jake's mom

> > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly!

>

>

> At my house, mouthing objects was caused by yeast overgrowth.

>

>

> >>her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes turn outward

>

>

> I eliminated this problem with my #4, with chelation, anti-virals, and lots of

biotin.

>

> If she has a yeast problem, I would start by adding biotin.

>

>

> >>yeast and the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see

no change.

>

>

> Increase the yeast protocol. I had to use a LOT of biotin and GSE during

chelation.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Biotin, GSE, Candex, Candidase, OLE and we chelate per Andy's method every

weekend every 3 hours with 12.5 mg each of DMSA and ALA.

> >

> > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short outbursts,

lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the end of the

day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger daughter

having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say her

first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if the

screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Emerson

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What are the anti virals you used? I give 25 mg of Biotin and 10 drops GSE 4

times a day. Maybe I'm not giving her enough. How much did you give your child?

> > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly!

>

>

> At my house, mouthing objects was caused by yeast overgrowth.

>

>

> >>her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes turn outward

>

>

> I eliminated this problem with my #4, with chelation, anti-virals, and lots of

biotin.

>

> If she has a yeast problem, I would start by adding biotin.

>

>

> >>yeast and the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see

no change.

>

>

> Increase the yeast protocol. I had to use a LOT of biotin and GSE during

chelation.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

How much of each did you give? And do they need to be given at specific times

like with food, between meals, etc?

> > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that

my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly!

> >

> >

> > At my house, mouthing objects was caused by yeast overgrowth.

> >

> >

> > >>her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes turn outward

> >

> >

> > I eliminated this problem with my #4, with chelation, anti-virals, and lots

of biotin.

> >

> > If she has a yeast problem, I would start by adding biotin.

> >

> >

> > >>yeast and the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still

see no change.

> >

> >

> > Increase the yeast protocol. I had to use a LOT of biotin and GSE during

chelation.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> What are the anti virals you used?

Virastop and OLE to get some control. High doses of vitamin A, vitamin C,

vitamin D, and lysine to eliminate viruses and correct the immune system.

>>I give 25 mg of Biotin and 10 drops GSE 4 times a day. Maybe I'm not giving

her enough. How much did you give your child?

Those things are for yeast, not viruses. The biotin dose is okay. Try

increasing the GSE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Are you giving the Biotin with Mag during meals; the more Biotin you give, the

more chance you have at constipation. When are you giving the GSE? With

Candidase, our yeast got WORSE!!!!! I kept increasing the dose thinking that I

wasn't giving enough and it was making it worse. I called Enzymedica and was

told to try 1/2 capsule, I did and that worked for awhile then that small dose

didn't work anymore. So I just pulled it out of rotation and the yeasty behavior

lessened and never got back to that extreme. That was our situation.

For us, OLE, Virastop, etc kick up a lot of yeast here.

For us, DMSA really caused extreme yeasty behavior. We do ALA and add DMSA once

a month; (this is our protocol, not suggesting you switch). What is your

ALA/DMSA ratio?

S

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, " emjuliet7 " <emjuliet7@...> wrote:

> Biotin, GSE, Candex, Candidase, OLE and we chelate per Andy's method every

weekend every 3 hours with 12.5 mg each of DMSA and ALA.

>

>

> > >

> > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that

my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Emerson

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

the mouthing could be lack of zinc, how much zinc are you giving? screaming..

could be yeast or adrenals, maybe bacteria. If you are being really really

agressive with the yeast you might be kicking up bacteria. Any culturelle in the

house to try?

From: S.

Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: screaming and mouthing objects all the

time!!!!!!!!!!

Are you giving the Biotin with Mag during meals; the more Biotin you give, the

more chance you have at constipation. When are you giving the GSE? With

Candidase, our yeast got WORSE!!!!! I kept increasing the dose thinking that I

wasn't giving enough and it was making it worse. I called Enzymedica and was

told to try 1/2 capsule, I did and that worked for awhile then that small dose

didn't work anymore. So I just pulled it out of rotation and the yeasty behavior

lessened and never got back to that extreme. That was our situation.

For us, OLE, Virastop, etc kick up a lot of yeast here.

For us, DMSA really caused extreme yeasty behavior. We do ALA and add DMSA once

a month; (this is our protocol, not suggesting you switch). What is your

ALA/DMSA ratio?

S

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:09 AM, " emjuliet7 " <emjuliet7@...> wrote:

> Biotin, GSE, Candex, Candidase, OLE and we chelate per Andy's method every

weekend every 3 hours with 12.5 mg each of DMSA and ALA.

>

>

> > >

> > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that

my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Emerson

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

We were up to 46 drops 3 x a day which is 350mg. Also concurrently was on

diflucan and we were still grttig Yeasty smelling diapers. I had heard that gse

would not be effective if given with diflucan and vice versa. Anyone else heat

this?

> > > >

> > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Emerson

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How are the stools cos GSE for my son wasent too good and i did stop it when his

stools are bad smell mushy and no food dygested hi has same simptoms and when

stools are good hi is bit calmer i give him GABA when hi is realy realy bad

screeming leeking mouthing objects i cant say this will solve all that but calms

him down and we can interact and wach films my son get calmer from GABA.I will

say here that is a day option doesent solve the screeming and all i steel have

all simptoms with my son mouthing objects and screems.

Sory this is a temporaly options

> > > >

> > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Emerson

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I give all of her supplements together 4 times a day with food, except for

Candidase which I give separately between breakfast and lunch. We do 12.5 mg of

DMSA and 12.5 mg of ALA.

> > > >

> > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Emerson

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I give her 2 tabs of Zinc Picolinate 4 times a day. I give her Lactobacillus Duo

after breakfast and after dinner.

> > > >

> > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Emerson

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

What's GABA?

> > > > >

> > > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Emerson

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Screaming was from food reactions here. Almost anything could be suspect of a

food reaction when chelating and yeast was bad. Would first give activated

charcoal and then get phenols out of diet. During chelation, it was essential

that we give no fruit/sweets at all most the time, unless we were taking long

enough breaks (three weeks) for yeast to be completely under control. Feed a

bland diet with meats, rice, vegetables, that's it. Give enzymes with meals and

probiotics afterward, also give probiotics before bed. Probably needs zinc for

the mouthing problem.

>

> We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems that my

daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short outbursts,

lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the end of the

day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger daughter

having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say her

first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if the

screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

>

> Thanks,

> Emerson

>

[Guest guest]

For whatever its worth Diflucan and other pharmaceuticals made my son scream and

misbehave. We have to use naturals for him. The mouthing is FINALLY resolved

with the GSE,OLE and biotin 3x a day.I am thrilled. Have been working on this 7

years! Thabks Dana!

Jakob's mom

> > > > >

> > > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Emerson

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

what will be the appropriate dose you gave for gse, ole and biotin for each meal

time to beat the persistent mouthing/pica?

Is it low for a start and gradually increasing and to what is the max?

Any good brand u would recommend for ole?

What is yr son's age when he stopped mouthing, could it be just developmental?

Sorry for the many questions and

Thank you very much for sharing :-)

Aishah's mom

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[ ] Re: screaming and mouthing objects all the

time!!!!!!!!!!

For whatever its worth Diflucan and other pharmaceuticals made my son scream and

misbehave. We have to use naturals for him. The mouthing is FINALLY resolved

with the GSE,OLE and biotin 3x a day.I am thrilled. Have been working on this 7

years! Thabks Dana!

Jakob's mom

> > > > >

> > > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Emerson

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nystatin made my son scream too, but it was more likely the colors and flavors

in it than the actual ingredient Nystatin itself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Emerson

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dana, how much of each should I give?

> > What are the anti virals you used?

>

>

> Virastop and OLE to get some control. High doses of vitamin A, vitamin C,

vitamin D, and lysine to eliminate viruses and correct the immune system.

>

>

> >>I give 25 mg of Biotin and 10 drops GSE 4 times a day. Maybe I'm not giving

her enough. How much did you give your child?

>

>

> Those things are for yeast, not viruses. The biotin dose is okay. Try

increasing the GSE.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana, how much of each should I give?

Depends on how much your child needs. I started with low doses and worked up

based on my son's reaction and how effective it was in doing whatever I wanted

it to do.

Dana

[Guest guest]

gamma-aminobutyric acid amino acid classified as neurotransmitter it helps

induse relaxation and sleepacts as a balancer in brain.

Sorry for late replay

From: emjuliet7 <emjuliet7@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: screaming and mouthing objects all the

time!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Friday, 26 November, 2010, 6:29

 

What's GABA?

> > > > >

> > > > > We have finished 22 rounds of chelation using DMSA and ALA. It seems

that my daughter screams and mouths objects constantly! The screams are short

outbursts, lasting only 1-2 seconds, but they are deafening! Sometimes at the

end of the day my ears are ringing from it, and I'm concerned about my younger

daughter having to hear it all the time too. My daughter at age 3 has yet to say

her first word although she babbles and makes lots of sounds. I'm wondering if

the screaming is from frustration in not being able to talk as she becomes more

aware, or if it's related to her vision because sometimes 1 or both of her eyes

turn outward causing her to see her environment differently. Also, the mouthing

baffles me. I read what others write about mouthing being related to yeast and

the treatment for it, and we do all those treatments and still see no change.

Are the screaming and mouthing just something I have to live with while we

chelate?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Emerson

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >