Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

[Guest guest]

My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the arched

back is resulting from her hypotonia.

Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What exercises

can help?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Here are some nutritional strategies for dealing with hypotonia . . .

http://www.devdelay.org/newsletter/articles/html/60-nutrition-and-low-muscle-ton\

e.html

>

> My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

>

> A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

[Guest guest]

This article might give you a clue:

http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

Pay attention to the chapter " Adrenal Gland–Related Muscles " .

I had this arched back in my chilhood and I've got weak adrenals.

What for excercices I think jogging was helpfulful me. But mostly more active

life style after finishing school somehow impoved this problem.

Galina

>

> My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

>

> A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

>

> Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Galina,

Thank you for this article. This is the first time that I read about links

between specific muscles and adrenal weakness.

My DD certainly has weak adrenals and so do my other two kids and myself. I also

have an arched back but was pretty athletic upto my 30s so that may be why it

never became a problem. My son doesn't appear to have an arched back but he is

musclularly weak and complains of pains in the feet & legs at times.

I hope to get input from Andy soon and will mention this to him to see if he

knows about this particular adrenal-muscle connection.

Thanks again for your reply,

>

> This article might give you a clue:

> http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

> Pay attention to the chapter " Adrenal Gland–Related Muscles " .

> I had this arched back in my chilhood and I've got weak adrenals.

> What for excercices I think jogging was helpfulful me. But mostly more active

life style after finishing school somehow impoved this problem.

> Galina

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this input, we do give these supplements already!

>

> Here are some nutritional strategies for dealing with hypotonia . . .

>

>

http://www.devdelay.org/newsletter/articles/html/60-nutrition-and-low-muscle-ton\

e.html

[Guest guest]

Hypotonia in my both my sons was cleared up with Celtic sea salt. Sea salt

happens to be good adrenal support. But I think it did something for the

nervous system in my sons. My youngest son also benefited from eating egg

whites at one time when his muscles were growing fast. Egg whites are 98%

usable protein for the human body. He actually LIKED eating plain fried egg

whites, which told me he really needed it. I can't imagine having a plateful of

4 to 6 egg whites.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

Any difference between Celtic sea salt and epsom salt?  WOndering if any salts

or is there something special about celtic sea salts?

PWC

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From: michele_in_california <talithamichele@...>

Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 10:26:06 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

 

Hypotonia in my both my sons was cleared up with Celtic sea salt. Sea salt

happens to be good adrenal support. But I think it did something for the nervous

system in my sons. My youngest son also benefited from eating egg whites at one

time when his muscles were growing fast. Egg whites are 98% usable protein for

the human body. He actually LIKED eating plain fried egg whites, which told me

he really needed it. I can't imagine having a plateful of 4 to 6 egg whites.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

quick thoughts..In babies, this can indicate pain...imo, could be " pain " she is

used to, or an adapted way to cope, linked to the belly issues - does feel

better when arched...Coconut oil rubdowns - belly & back specifically help the

most for my daughter & her belly issues. Would also look into IBS connections,

crohn's, and things like that...Also would look into balance/feet - how she

walks, what kind of foot/feet she has, that could be contributing (my older

daughter has " two " different feet - three point & a four point, no skipping for

her, lolol)...

>

> My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

>

> A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

>

> Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

This could also be a neurological issue like toe walking, caused by heavy metal

toxicity.

Are you chelating?

TJ

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From: Andree <mam78@...>

Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 3:07:47 AM

Subject: [ ] Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

 

My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the arched

back is resulting from her hypotonia.

Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What exercises

can help?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

hi you definately need to do some muscle manipulation we do the scotson

technique a low consistsent pressure on the diapragm to slowly build this muscle

up, you need to so this on the back to increase the muscle tone and reduce the

arch, shiatsu is another simialr method

www.advancecentres.com is their web page, but any kind of muscle soft pressure

will benefit your child, isobel

>

> My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

>

> A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

>

> Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there's a difference. Celtic sea salt is full of lots of minerals. Epsom

salts are magnesium sulfate.

S S

Re: Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

Posted by: " Concerned Parent " parentwithconcerns@... parentwithconcerns

Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:33 am (PST)

Any difference between Celtic sea salt and epsom salt? WOndering if any salts

or is there something special about celtic sea salts?

PWC

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[Guest guest]

My best recollection off the top of my head:

Table salt is about 96% sodium chloride ( " salt " ) and the other 4% is stuff like

iodine (added with the intent to treat iodine shortages in the midwest,

historically known as " the goiter belt " ) and anti-caking agents so it pours

better. Celtic sea salt is about 84% or 86% sodium chloride and the rest of it

is 80-some-odd micronutrients. Not all brands of sea salt have that mix of

micronutrients. As I understand it, Celtic has the highest percentage of

micronutrients of any brand of sea salt. I have tried brands of sea salt that

were very similar to kosher salt: basically, just plain salt without the

anticaking agents and such typical of table salt.

I also sometimes buy McCormick's French Grey salt. It is similar to Celtic, but

it is a lot more expensive and I think it is not quite as good in quality. But

it is available at our local grocery store, so if I am nearly out of salt and

waiting for a shipment of Celtic, I will buy McCormick's French Grey to tide me

over. I also keep some in my desk at work because it comes in a small tin,

which is convenient for that situation.

As someone else said, Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate, which is chemically

completely different from sea salt. I am allergic to sulfur so I cannot use

Epsom salt. I know some people on this board use it, I believe for the effect

sulfur has on the body. On another list I used to belong to, some people used

it is a transdermal means to supplement magnesium. It is beneficial to some

people for some things, but it is chemically unrelated to sea salt, so it would

do different things for the body than sea salt would.

For me and my sons, Celtic sea salt did something for us that nothing else did.

The genetic disorder that I and my oldest son have impacts how the body

processes sodium molecules and this causes the body to basically miss-process

salt, which has all kinds of negative consequences. Getting a good quality sea

salt into our diets was a turning point for a lot of our health issues.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> Any difference between Celtic sea salt and epsom salt?  WOndering if any

salts or is there something special about celtic sea salts?

>

>

> PWC

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info....also I love the web site.

PWC

________________________________

From: michele_in_california <talithamichele@...>

Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 8:42:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

 

My best recollection off the top of my head:

Table salt is about 96% sodium chloride ( " salt " ) and the other 4% is stuff like

iodine (added with the intent to treat iodine shortages in the midwest,

historically known as " the goiter belt " ) and anti-caking agents so it pours

better. Celtic sea salt is about 84% or 86% sodium chloride and the rest of it

is 80-some-odd micronutrients. Not all brands of sea salt have that mix of

micronutrients. As I understand it, Celtic has the highest percentage of

micronutrients of any brand of sea salt. I have tried brands of sea salt that

were very similar to kosher salt: basically, just plain salt without the

anticaking agents and such typical of table salt.

I also sometimes buy McCormick's French Grey salt. It is similar to Celtic, but

it is a lot more expensive and I think it is not quite as good in quality. But

it is available at our local grocery store, so if I am nearly out of salt and

waiting for a shipment of Celtic, I will buy McCormick's French Grey to tide me

over. I also keep some in my desk at work because it comes in a small tin, which

is convenient for that situation.

As someone else said, Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate, which is chemically

completely different from sea salt. I am allergic to sulfur so I cannot use

Epsom salt. I know some people on this board use it, I believe for the effect

sulfur has on the body. On another list I used to belong to, some people used it

is a transdermal means to supplement magnesium. It is beneficial to some people

for some things, but it is chemically unrelated to sea salt, so it would do

different things for the body than sea salt would.

For me and my sons, Celtic sea salt did something for us that nothing else did.

The genetic disorder that I and my oldest son have impacts how the body

processes sodium molecules and this causes the body to basically miss-process

salt, which has all kinds of negative consequences. Getting a good quality sea

salt into our diets was a turning point for a lot of our health issues.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> Any difference between Celtic sea salt and epsom salt?  WOndering if any

salts or is there something special about celtic sea salts?

>

>

> PWC

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

[ ] Child has very arched back & it's getting worse

My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

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>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: TJ Werth

>

> ===>Not sure what you are meaning, . Ours has a " ballet " body, tall,

long, slender and does have a significant arch to her back. But this also makes

her a good gymnast, is flexible. I never noticed that she corrected her walk

because of it.

>

>

I guess I didn't describe the problem well. To start, my DD has had an unusual

walk which I started to notice when she was about three but I don't think that

there is necessarily a link to her arched back.

I've noticed in the past few weeks that her gait has gotten worse - she is

tripping more often and I notice that she walks increasingly with her hips/tummy

leading and her shoulders leaning back and I can really see the arch in her

back. It's no longer just an arch, she seems to be leaning back like a gymnast

would do in a performance but in everyday life! It's like she doesn't have much

strength in the tummy/back and sometimes I see her upper body leaning back at

the waist with every step. She doesn't appear to over-arch when running, just

when walking.

> This could also be a neurological issue like toe walking, caused by heavy

metal toxicity.

> Are you chelating?

> TJ

I think her unusual gait is neurological and yes we are chelating.

[Guest guest]

No sweat.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> Thanks for all the info....also I love the web site.

>

> PWC

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, she needs to see a chiropractor. We corrected postural abnormalities by

seeing one. In fact, my daughter had scoliosis that is gone now. I do not

beleive " exercises " alone would correct any spinal issues that are causing her

to have improper posture. Those things only get worse usually leading to

improper jaw growth, crooked teeth and neck/back problems later on.

Jan

>

> My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that it

is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

>

> A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

>

> Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I second that -- I was thinking NUCCA, which adjusts only the top 2 cervical

bones and places the skull back in the correct place. Check out

www.whattimetuesday.com and they can recommend someone if you email or call them

(the Tomasi's). I give out their books all the time to people.

Get her to stand up straight in front of you, check out if her ears look crooked

even though she is straight. You can have her weighed and see if she is heavier

by a few pounds on one side than the other. These are both indicators that the

C1 and C2 are off. There are other modalities as well, and if the chiro who

does it is a preferred provider or chiro is covered on your insurance, then you

should be fine. If you can't afford it, I know they have hooked up some people

with their patient benevolence fund. One dr discounted her rates to $35 or

less.

Good luck.

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> > My DD has always had an arched back but now it's becoming a problem in that

it is visibly affecting the way she walks. She often walks with her back arched,

tummy thrust outward, which throws off her footing.

> >

> > A local doctor said that she needs to tone up her tummy muscles since the

arched back is resulting from her hypotonia.

> >

> > Have others dealt with this? What muscles should I be working on? What

exercises can help?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>