Child eats butter by the spoonful

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My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

Any ideas?

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I wou8ld take this as one of two things (or both)

- she is sensitive to casein and trying to get her " fix " , and I would pull all

dairy from the diet.

-she isn't processing fats correctly and needs supplements to help with that and

fats that are easy to process.

If it were me, I'd stop having butter around, and switch to coconut oil. Is she

CF, now? Is she on Taurine?

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped doing

it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it this

way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

Martijn

[Guest guest]

I think it is a sign that she really likes butter.

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Martijn

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

====>Ours did the same thing at 3-5. I let her, figured she needed it. Butter

is a good source of cholesterol and Vitamin A. She no longer does this.

Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped

doing it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it

this way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

Martijn

[Guest guest]

IMHO, it sounds like an opiate reaction to casein. I would go totally CF, if it

were me.... Our kiddos tend to crave what they are least tolerant to.

Hugs,

~Robin

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

> Any ideas?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight.

This was caused by severe mitochondrial dysfunction at my house, the inability

to properly digest fats.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana- what can be done to clear up mitochondrial dysfunction?

> > My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight.

>

>

> This was caused by severe mitochondrial dysfunction at my house, the inability

to properly digest fats.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana- what can be done to clear up mitochondrial dysfunction?

I wrote what my son needed here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth marks in the

stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into it. I stopped,

voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly because I was extremely

careful to make sure no one saw me, yet minutes later my mom was hollering my

name. It seemed so extremely unfair to me. I was too young to understand that

a) no one else did this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left

evidence behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

than anyone else in the house.

These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited " amounts of. I

tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do not need to worry that I

am eating too much of it and will react badly at some point. Last summer, I

discovered that my condition can rapidly deteriorate and I can wind up quite ill

within a week if I don't get enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic

disorder and apparently good quality butter is pretty important to my well

being. Here is a brief run down of my personal experience with different

ois/fats: http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml

If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested, you can try

making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over. But I tend to assume

children do stuff like this because they crave what their body needs. For me, I

have found that getting butter with healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies my

needs best. Doing so consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well as

less of a salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body is

gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I began sweating

again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2 decades.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

[Guest guest]

This conversation is interesting to me, some say the craving is because of need

and others because it is a problem. I think we might be able to clarify, at

least to some extent, by knowing what the rest of the child's diet is like. If

it is overly limited, there may be a need for zinc and possibly some

experimentation with elimination diets; but if this is just one addition (and

the child eats other foods - fruits, vegetables, nuts, whole grains) then maybe

it is just needed. What are others' thoughts on this?

Liz

>

> As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth marks in the

stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into it. I stopped,

voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly because I was extremely

careful to make sure no one saw me, yet minutes later my mom was hollering my

name. It seemed so extremely unfair to me. I was too young to understand that

a) no one else did this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left

evidence behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

than anyone else in the house.

>

> These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited " amounts of.

I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do not need to worry that

I am eating too much of it and will react badly at some point. Last summer, I

discovered that my condition can rapidly deteriorate and I can wind up quite ill

within a week if I don't get enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic

disorder and apparently good quality butter is pretty important to my well

being. Here is a brief run down of my personal experience with different

ois/fats: http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml

>

> If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested, you can try

making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over. But I tend to assume

children do stuff like this because they crave what their body needs. For me, I

have found that getting butter with healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies my

needs best. Doing so consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well as

less of a salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body is

gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I began sweating

again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2 decades.

>

> Good luck with this.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com

> http://www.kidslikemine.com

> http://www.solanorail.com

>

[Guest guest]

My sister used to do this, don't know why. Is she getting EFAs?

S S

Child eats butter by the spoonful

Posted by: " Andree " mam78@... iam2l84t

Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:55 am (PST)

My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

Any ideas?

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Your kid's an addict,just like I was.I know all too well what casein addiction

is like.I was a real junkie myself up until a few months ago.For me it was

cheese,and ice cream.I could eat a one pound block of cheese,or polish off two

thirds of a half gallon of ice cream in a few minutes,and then want more in a

couple of hours.Dairy and casein have opiates,and for those of us who crave

it,it's just like heroin, and acts the same way in the brain.We " need " it to

function.It's one of the few real addictions that can start in childhood,and the

only way to kick it,is too go off of it,cold turkey.

This does cause withdrawl,and regression,and it can get ugly,with rages,and head

banging.My withdrawl lasted almost two months.

The people who make up diets for autism,that include kefir or yogurt have no

idea how bad this addiction is,and how it effects the brain. Only someone who

has been a heavy addict for years can.Full recovery from autism cannot

happen,until all offending foods are gone,and dairy is probably the worst.

I don't know how old your child is,but if they are still growing,you need to

talk to your doctor about eliminating every drop and speck of dairy,and figuring

out a calcium/vitamin D supplementation protocol that would support their

growing bones.This includes looking at food ingredient labels for " hidden "

dairy.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

> >

>

> Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped

doing it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it

this way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

>

> Martijn

>

[Guest guest]

Why can it not just be that she likes butter and lacks the realization that it

really isn't a 'food'? Kids do funny things.

If she were an addict, like you say, then my guess is more than butter would be

craved and inhaled. I suppose my question to the mom of this girl is if other

casein containing foods are eaten inappropriately? Does she sneak it or seek it

out?

Now your behavior, , sounds like an addiction! I have a similar thing with

sugars. I find myself 20 minutes in to eating a lot of sugar without much

memory of what transpired. I certainly get a wave of calm from it.

Pam

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

> > >

> >

> > Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped

doing it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it

this way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

> >

> > Martijn

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I did this too when I was a child. We only had butter in sticks then and I

would get it out of the frig and eat it like a lollipop. I just like the taste

of it. I stopped it though once I started gagging on it LOL. Don't worry, I

don't think it's anything serious and I don't have autism.

Janet

[ ] Re: Child eats butter by the spoonful

Your kid's an addict,just like I was.I know all too well what casein addiction

is like.I was a real junkie myself up until a few months ago.For me it was

cheese,and ice cream.I could eat a one pound block of cheese,or polish off two

thirds of a half gallon of ice cream in a few minutes,and then want more in a

couple of hours.Dairy and casein have opiates,and for those of us who crave

it,it's just like heroin, and acts the same way in the brain.We " need " it to

function.It's one of the few real addictions that can start in childhood,and the

only way to kick it,is too go off of it,cold turkey.

This does cause withdrawl,and regression,and it can get ugly,with rages,and head

banging.My withdrawl lasted almost two months.

The people who make up diets for autism,that include kefir or yogurt have no

idea how bad this addiction is,and how it effects the brain. Only someone who

has been a heavy addict for years can.Full recovery from autism cannot

happen,until all offending foods are gone,and dairy is probably the worst.

I don't know how old your child is,but if they are still growing,you need to

talk to your doctor about eliminating every drop and speck of dairy,and figuring

out a calcium/vitamin D supplementation protocol that would support their

growing bones.This includes looking at food ingredient labels for " hidden "

dairy.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

> >

>

> Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped

doing it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it

this way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

>

> Martijn

>

[Guest guest]

In many households, butter is likely the only readily available source of medium

chain triglycerides (MCT oil). Some sources describe butter as " high " in MCT

oil and others indicate it has a moderate amount of MCT oil. If I recall

correctly, MCT oil is readily absorbed directly by the gut without having to be

digested first -- ie it does not need to be changed by the body to be used by

the body. This makes MCT oil a more efficient source of calories than other

oils and it also makes it easier on a compromised gut than other oils. Certain

oils play an important part in growing/healing the nervous system. Andy has

also said that MCT oil does good things for gut flora. ASD kids very often have

gut issues, which are often linked to their brain issues.

My genetic disorder (cystic fibrosis) causes serious gut issues. A lot of what

I know about healing my own gut issues came from this email list. I believe

that certain basic principles likely cut across diagnoses -- that gut issues are

gut issues, regardless of the official label given by professionals, and those

gut issues likely have certain sources in common. So it makes sense to me that

someone with gut issues would crave MCT oil and would seek out the only source

they can probably readily get their hands on. The fact that MCT oil is also a

more efficient source of calories may also have strong appeal for a growing

child that has some kind of problem putting additional stress on their body. If

it does do something to help support the health of the nervous system, that

could easily be another strong motivator for a child who is impaired enough to

potentially qualify for some label or other, which is typical of the kids

represented on this list by caring adults in their lives.

Just thinking out loud.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> This conversation is interesting to me, some say the craving is because of

need and others because it is a problem. I think we might be able to clarify,

at least to some extent, by knowing what the rest of the child's diet is like.

If it is overly limited, there may be a need for zinc and possibly some

experimentation with elimination diets; but if this is just one addition (and

the child eats other foods - fruits, vegetables, nuts, whole grains) then maybe

it is just needed. What are others' thoughts on this?

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

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From:

===>It was not an addictive behavior here, ours did not guzzle milk or cheese,

just butter. And she did not require the diet to recover, actually got worse

when we withdrew milk, lost speech and weight. We put back the milk and she is

completely recovered. Small children require higher amounts of fat than do

adults. Butter is not the evil food that the AMA and media have portrayed.

Your kid's an addict,just like I was.I know all too well what casein addiction

is like.I was a real junkie myself up until a few months ago.For me it was

cheese,and ice cream.I could eat a one pound block of cheese,or polish off two

thirds of a half gallon of ice cream in a few minutes,and then want more in a

couple of hours.Dairy and casein have opiates,and for those of us who crave

it,it's just like heroin, and acts the same way in the brain.We " need " it to

function.It's one of the few real addictions that can start in childhood,and the

only way to kick it,is too go off of it,cold turkey.

This does cause withdrawl,and regression,and it can get ugly,with rages,and

head banging.My withdrawl lasted almost two months.

The people who make up diets for autism,that include kefir or yogurt have no

idea how bad this addiction is,and how it effects the brain. Only someone who

has been a heavy addict for years can.Full recovery from autism cannot

happen,until all offending foods are gone,and dairy is probably the worst.

I don't know how old your child is,but if they are still growing,you need to

talk to your doctor about eliminating every drop and speck of dairy,and figuring

out a calcium/vitamin D supplementation protocol that would support their

growing bones.This includes looking at food ingredient labels for " hidden "

dairy.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

> >

>

> Our son did the same, when he was 3 a 4 years old now he is 7 and stopped

doing it a while ago. I'm not sure if it is Autisme related, maybe they like it

this way because the taste is always the same and with less taste stimuli.

>

> Martijn

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Liz

===>Hysterical scene in a recent move with Meg , upon learning of her

husband's infidelity, takes a stick of butter, dips it in cocoa and sugar and

eats it.

Ours ate other good foods but ate the butter. For kids who respond well to the

diet and who have guzzled milk I can see this would be an attempt to get casein.

But ours had milk, wasn't looking for a fix, just wanted the butter. We let her

have as much as she wanted, but it was hard to watch.

This conversation is interesting to me, some say the craving is because of

need and others because it is a problem. I think we might be able to clarify, at

least to some extent, by knowing what the rest of the child's diet is like. If

it is overly limited, there may be a need for zinc and possibly some

experimentation with elimination diets; but if this is just one addition (and

the child eats other foods - fruits, vegetables, nuts, whole grains) then maybe

it is just needed. What are others' thoughts on this?

Liz

>

> As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth marks in the

stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into it. I stopped,

voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly because I was extremely

careful to make sure no one saw me, yet minutes later my mom was hollering my

name. It seemed so extremely unfair to me. I was too young to understand that a)

no one else did this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left

evidence behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

than anyone else in the house.

>

> These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited " amounts

of. I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do not need to worry

that I am eating too much of it and will react badly at some point. Last summer,

I discovered that my condition can rapidly deteriorate and I can wind up quite

ill within a week if I don't get enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic

disorder and apparently good quality butter is pretty important to my well

being. Here is a brief run down of my personal experience with different

ois/fats: http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml

>

> If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested, you can try

making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over. But I tend to assume

children do stuff like this because they crave what their body needs. For me, I

have found that getting butter with healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies my

needs best. Doing so consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well as

less of a salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body is

gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I began sweating

again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2 decades.

>

> Good luck with this.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com

> http://www.kidslikemine.com

> http://www.solanorail.com

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the replies.

I honestly don't know if her liking for butter is just that she likes the stuff

or if she is a casein junkie. She was GFCF for months with no consistent

improvements in behaviour since she reacts to other foods as well. The main

issue I have with her eating butter is with sulfur and yeast-production, neither

of which help her moods & behaviour.

We stopped being GFCF a long time ago because the benefits weren't strong enough

to make it worthwhile. She has some dairy, but not much. She seems to do better

with cheese & yoghurt than with butter, cream or milk which are more problematic

so I limit them.

I was hoping that someone would point out some physical connection in the same

way that my DD's craving for salt is adrenal-related.

Maybe she is lacking in EFAs? I'm not giving her this regularly anymore.

I'll let you know if I find that her craving is not just a question of taste.

>

> My sister used to do this, don't know why. Is she getting EFAs?

> S S

>

> Child eats butter by the spoonful

> Posted by: " Andree " mam78@... iam2l84t

> Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:55 am (PST)

>

>

> My DD loves butter and when she sees it out on the counter, she'll dig her

finger into it & eat it straight. I try to let her put her butter on toast but

she puts huge chunks of it and thinks it's yummy. Of course, I spread it out

because I think that this isn't good for her and also because we limit dairy,

but now I'm wondering now if this is a sign of a lack of something.

>

> Any ideas?

>

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Take a look at the effects fats have on the brain receptors. Food manufacturers

know it all too well! It makes (most of) us feel good!

I'm sure they sell deep fried butter at the state fair. I just wouldn't fall in

to the trap of over-analzying this behavior unless other signs are present.

There certainly might be an issue with fat metabolism or casein, but my guess

(based on info given by mom) is that the butter incidents are a coincidence.

My mom tells stories of how she used to sneak butter as a child. I love the

stuff, and could definitely eat toast with big chunks. Dipped in sugar? Not

sure. My mom needs to see that movie.

Pam

> >

> > As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth marks in

the stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into it. I stopped,

voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly because I was extremely

careful to make sure no one saw me, yet minutes later my mom was hollering my

name. It seemed so extremely unfair to me. I was too young to understand that a)

no one else did this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left

evidence behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

than anyone else in the house.

> >

> > These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited " amounts

of. I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do not need to worry

that I am eating too much of it and will react badly at some point. Last summer,

I discovered that my condition can rapidly deteriorate and I can wind up quite

ill within a week if I don't get enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic

disorder and apparently good quality butter is pretty important to my well

being. Here is a brief run down of my personal experience with different

ois/fats: http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml

> >

> > If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested, you can

try making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over. But I tend to

assume children do stuff like this because they crave what their body needs. For

me, I have found that getting butter with healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies

my needs best. Doing so consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well

as less of a salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body is

gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I began sweating

again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2 decades.

> >

> > Good luck with this.

> >

> > Michele

> > http://www.healthgazelle.com

> > http://www.kidslikemine.com

> > http://www.solanorail.com

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Butter contains arachidonic acid, vital for higher brain function and one of the

few places to get it.

[ ] Re: Child eats butter by the spoonful

Take a look at the effects fats have on the brain receptors. Food

manufacturers know it all too well! It makes (most of) us feel good!

I'm sure they sell deep fried butter at the state fair. I just wouldn't fall

in to the trap of over-analzying this behavior unless other signs are present.

There certainly might be an issue with fat metabolism or casein, but my guess

(based on info given by mom) is that the butter incidents are a coincidence.

My mom tells stories of how she used to sneak butter as a child. I love the

stuff, and could definitely eat toast with big chunks. Dipped in sugar? Not

sure. My mom needs to see that movie.

Pam

> >

> > As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth marks in

the stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into it. I stopped,

voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly because I was extremely

careful to make sure no one saw me, yet minutes later my mom was hollering my

name. It seemed so extremely unfair to me. I was too young to understand that a)

no one else did this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left

evidence behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

than anyone else in the house.

> >

> > These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited " amounts

of. I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do not need to worry

that I am eating too much of it and will react badly at some point. Last summer,

I discovered that my condition can rapidly deteriorate and I can wind up quite

ill within a week if I don't get enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic

disorder and apparently good quality butter is pretty important to my well

being. Here is a brief run down of my personal experience with different

ois/fats: http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml

> >

> > If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested, you can

try making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over. But I tend to

assume children do stuff like this because they crave what their body needs. For

me, I have found that getting butter with healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies

my needs best. Doing so consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well

as less of a salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body is

gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I began sweating

again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2 decades.

> >

> > Good luck with this.

> >

> > Michele

> > http://www.healthgazelle.com

> > http://www.kidslikemine.com

> > http://www.solanorail.com

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

cuzzle wrote:

>

> Butter contains arachidonic acid, vital for higher brain function and

> one of the few places to get it.

>

You mean besides being present in meat, eggs, and most dairy?

As well, it is synthesized in the body from linoleic acid.

>

>

> [ ] Re: Child eats butter by the spoonful

>

> Take a look at the effects fats have on the brain receptors. Food

> manufacturers know it all too well! It makes (most of) us feel good!

>

> I'm sure they sell deep fried butter at the state fair. I just

> wouldn't fall in to the trap of over-analzying this behavior unless

> other signs are present. There certainly might be an issue with fat

> metabolism or casein, but my guess (based on info given by mom) is

> that the butter incidents are a coincidence.

>

> My mom tells stories of how she used to sneak butter as a child. I

> love the stuff, and could definitely eat toast with big chunks. Dipped

> in sugar? Not sure. My mom needs to see that movie.

>

> Pam

>

>

> > >

> > > As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth

> marks in the stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into

> it. I stopped, voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly

> because I was extremely careful to make sure no one saw me, yet

> minutes later my mom was hollering my name. It seemed so extremely

> unfair to me. I was too young to understand that a) no one else did

> this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left evidence

> behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

> than anyone else in the house.

> > >

> > > These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited "

> amounts of. I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do

> not need to worry that I am eating too much of it and will react badly

> at some point. Last summer, I discovered that my condition can rapidly

> deteriorate and I can wind up quite ill within a week if I don't get

> enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic disorder and apparently

> good quality butter is pretty important to my well being. Here is a

> brief run down of my personal experience with different ois/fats:

> http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml <http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml>

> > >

> > > If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested,

> you can try making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over.

> But I tend to assume children do stuff like this because they crave

> what their body needs. For me, I have found that getting butter with

> healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies my needs best. Doing so

> consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well as less of a

> salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

> disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body

> is gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I

> began sweating again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2

> decades.

> > >

> > > Good luck with this.

> > >

> > > Michele

> > > http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> > > http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> > > http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually what is more relevant is that butter has medium chain triglycerides

which promote the use of fat to make energy (ATP), and also help fight off

intestinal yeast overgrowth.

It probably also has fat soluble vitaminlike substances that never got

identified when research into such things was abandoned in favor of government

sponsored drug research.

Andy

> > > >

> > > > As a little girl, I used to get in trouble for leaving my teeth

> > marks in the stick of butter because I would pick it up and bite into

> > it. I stopped, voluntarily, at age 5. I remember it very clearly

> > because I was extremely careful to make sure no one saw me, yet

> > minutes later my mom was hollering my name. It seemed so extremely

> > unfair to me. I was too young to understand that a) no one else did

> > this in the house, so I was the likely culprit and I left evidence

> > behind in the form of tiny teeth marks and my teeth were a lot smaller

> > than anyone else in the house.

> > > >

> > > > These days, organic butter is the only fat I can have " unlimited "

> > amounts of. I tolerate it better than any other form of fat and I do

> > not need to worry that I am eating too much of it and will react badly

> > at some point. Last summer, I discovered that my condition can rapidly

> > deteriorate and I can wind up quite ill within a week if I don't get

> > enough butter in my diet. I have a genetic disorder and apparently

> > good quality butter is pretty important to my well being. Here is a

> > brief run down of my personal experience with different ois/fats:

> > http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml <http://healthgazelle.com/oils.shtml>

> > > >

> > > > If you are concerned about casein, as some folks have suggested,

> > you can try making ghee (clarified butter) and see how that goes over.

> > But I tend to assume children do stuff like this because they crave

> > what their body needs. For me, I have found that getting butter with

> > healthy carbs and sea salt satisfies my needs best. Doing so

> > consistently makes me less of a " butter fiend " (as well as less of a

> > salt fiend -- a high need for salt is a hallmark of my genetic

> > disorder). The salt and butter both seem to stick better and my body

> > is gradually functioning more normally. In fact, just this week I

> > began sweating again, something I don't think I have done for maybe 2

> > decades.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck with this.

> > > >

> > > > Michele

> > > > http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> > > > http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> > > > http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, likely why it was a main helper for Weston Price, especially from grass

feed cows...k2 and other good things

" Dr. Price always gave cod liver oil along with high-vitamin butter oil,

extracted by centrifuge from good quality spring or fall butter. He found

that cod liver oil on its own was relatively ineffective but combined with

high vitamin butter oil produced excellent results. The butter oil contains

what he called Activator X, now considered to be vitamin K2, which works

synergistically with vitamins A and D "

http://www.westonaprice.org/Cod-Liver-Oil-Basics-and-Recommendations.html

by Written by Sally Fallon and G. Enig, PhD

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: andrewhallcutler

Actually what is more relevant is that butter has medium chain triglycerides

which promote the use of fat to make energy (ATP), and also help fight off

intestinal yeast overgrowth.

It probably also has fat soluble vitaminlike substances that never got

identified when research into such things was abandoned in favor of

government sponsored drug research.

Andy