Re: OT Forwarded msg from Ross/

[Guest guest]

A good psych warfare operative would also realize when a current tactic isn't

working. What has happened is the opposite of what you intended: people

rallying around and shunning you.

If recommending Ultra-low doses of a chelator is the worst is doing at

this point then I'm not sure what the danger is. We are big people, all of us,

and we can recognize a problem poster ourselves. I know you don't agree with me

on that one, but none of us like to be forced in to an opinion by being told we

are morons... and that is what you are basically doing. You are *not* leaving

it up to us to decide; that is the issue.

Perhaps you are taking a page from the Book of Andy (he can be critical!), but

Andy has an underlying compassion that is quite apparent where I'm not sure

yours is recognizeable at this point.

Take care, .

Pam

> > >

> > > Jen, People who " laugh too much " is a reference to the " Laughing Academy "

another term for the nuthouse.

> >

> > I missed that reference.

> >

> > > You can not bother to investigate a subject and determine I am obsessed if

you wish.

> >

> > I have spent what feels like years of my life researching the subject of

trying to treat my child's autism biomedically. I really didn't have time to go

through all the arguments here, so I'm not taking any sides. It just seemed

really silly, all the personal attacks.

> >

> > I wouldn't worry about one person posting false information that leads

parents astray. We are capable of using google and researching these things.

We learned that you can't just believe everything you hear by being misled by

our pediatricians. Most of us will not be seduced by Koresh type

persuation. You really can't help anyone who is that gullible.

> >

> > > I can't force you to become learned. I'm just an honest guy who doesn't

like liars, especially when it comes to interferring with information that

parents need to cure their kids. I'm certain is here with nefarious

intent. It's up to you if choose to listen to him and let him disrupt you from

curing your kid. All I can do is tell you the truth. If you don't believe me,

you should ask questions rather than cast aspersions.

> >

> > Again, I really didn't follow the argument. So many lists, so little time.

I was just speculating that either you're really bored and trying to have fun

pranking a group, or there is something very obsessive and disturbingly

off about you. Mental health issue, mercury poisoning, Aspergers?? All of the

above? I say this with respect, my son is in an Asperger resource program at

school where he blows other kids out of the water with his intelligence, but

suffers from his obsessive thought patterns. It is easy for him to become angry

at a percieved slight, and hold on to it, running it on a hamster wheel inside

his head.

> >

> > I have to admitt, I enjoy getting a laugh here and there because I get tired

of reading about poop, yeast, and mercury all the time, important as it is.

However, could you try not to be so openly hostile? It really discredits you.

> > Jen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, It was my underlying passion that led me to take the time to explain the

benefits of Andy's knowledge to you about 6 years ago so that I could bring you

here to help your child. I believe you did help your child and you have no

business criticizing me for going out of my way to help you back then when you

had no idea how to help your kid.

If everyone here was capable of figuring out that was dishonest, why was

anyone listening to him in the first place?

I merely pointed out some facts that others were not aware of. Next time I see

someone giving intentionally false information out, perhaps I should advise you

to follow it so you can hurt your child. Would that be politically correct

enough for you?

> > > >

> > > > Jen, People who " laugh too much " is a reference to the " Laughing

Academy " another term for the nuthouse.

> > >

> > > I missed that reference.

> > >

> > > > You can not bother to investigate a subject and determine I am obsessed

if you wish.

> > >

> > > I have spent what feels like years of my life researching the subject of

trying to treat my child's autism biomedically. I really didn't have time to go

through all the arguments here, so I'm not taking any sides. It just seemed

really silly, all the personal attacks.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't worry about one person posting false information that leads

parents astray. We are capable of using google and researching these things.

We learned that you can't just believe everything you hear by being misled by

our pediatricians. Most of us will not be seduced by Koresh type

persuation. You really can't help anyone who is that gullible.

> > >

> > > > I can't force you to become learned. I'm just an honest guy who doesn't

like liars, especially when it comes to interferring with information that

parents need to cure their kids. I'm certain is here with nefarious

intent. It's up to you if choose to listen to him and let him disrupt you from

curing your kid. All I can do is tell you the truth. If you don't believe me,

you should ask questions rather than cast aspersions.

> > >

> > > Again, I really didn't follow the argument. So many lists, so little

time. I was just speculating that either you're really bored and trying to have

fun pranking a group, or there is something very obsessive and

disturbingly off about you. Mental health issue, mercury poisoning, Aspergers??

All of the above? I say this with respect, my son is in an Asperger resource

program at school where he blows other kids out of the water with his

intelligence, but suffers from his obsessive thought patterns. It is easy for

him to become angry at a percieved slight, and hold on to it, running it on a

hamster wheel inside his head.

> > >

> > > I have to admitt, I enjoy getting a laugh here and there because I get

tired of reading about poop, yeast, and mercury all the time, important as it

is. However, could you try not to be so openly hostile? It really discredits

you.

> > > Jen

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know that, . That is gone or really unrecognizeable. It makes me

kind of sad.

If you can criticize us, you have to be able to allow us to critique you.

P

>

> Pam, It was my underlying passion that led me to take the time to explain the

benefits of Andy's knowledge to you about 6 years ago so that I could bring you

here to help your child.

[Guest guest]

Anyone who would like to talk to Ross can find him in these two groups:

adult-metal-chelation/

frequent-dose-chelation/

J