Re: losing language during chelation...

[Guest guest]

My son lost all speech at age 5 over a 6 month period. I concluded that it was

caused by a 20 day regime of amoxicilin which killed all good gut bugs and

permitted a yeast overgrowth which went undiagnosed and untreated for years. Now

at age 12 he is still without speech.

Since our cause of speech loss was yeast (I think), I suspect yeast always. DMSA

causes yeast. We have a very good and strong yeast protocol now and no longer

fear yeast as we once did.

Is yeast an issue for you?

________________________________

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@...>

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 8:13:15 AM

Subject: [ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom

[Guest guest]

 

In the beginning, our son had wonderful gains. When we started supps, candida

and bacteria got nourished immediately and all those gains are gone now. We

actually dealing with regress in terms of speech and learning.  How to keep

balance between nourishing candida and supplying the child with vitamins, and

chelation? 's experience is really hard, and I heard about at least one

more child who lost his words due to yeast overgrowth on chelation.

 

From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] losing language during chelation...

Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:47 AM

 

My son lost all speech at age 5 over a 6 month period. I concluded that it was

caused by a 20 day regime of amoxicilin which killed all good gut bugs and

permitted a yeast overgrowth which went undiagnosed and untreated for years. Now

at age 12 he is still without speech.

Since our cause of speech loss was yeast (I think), I suspect yeast always. DMSA

causes yeast. We have a very good and strong yeast protocol now and no longer

fear yeast as we once did.

Is yeast an issue for you?

________________________________

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@...>

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 8:13:15 AM

Subject: [ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom

[Guest guest]

didn't say his child lost his speech with yeast during chelation. He said

it was amoxicillin.

I've never heard of a child who lost their language permanently with yeast from

chelation.

If the yeast gets too severe during chelation you stop for a short while and get

it under control. Unless you've been rotating yeast fighters and developed a

resistant strain, it's always possible to control yeast, takes a while but it

will go away.

RecoveryFromAutism

Recovered, 9 year old

[ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had

this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom

[Guest guest]

So,  those steps back due to the yeast growth on chelation are reversible?

You just have to stop the round? And then when you restart it, from which point

you have to move, is it the same dose that was given last? Sorry I didn't read

Andy's books yet, maybe they have the answer.

We didn't chelate yet. We started supps, and Clebsiella grew. I heard that there

is no point in treating bacteria with antibiotics untill the immune system is

repaired. And for that, we need to chelate. But while introducing vitamins, gut

symptoms worsen, pathogenes, both bacteria and candida, eat up all the

minerals, and it's like a circle...  

That's why I was asking how to balance between healing the gut of pathogenes and

supplementing the child with vitamins. I suppose that the family whose child

regressed during chelation made some mistakes, and I would like to learn how to

avoid it.

 

From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] losing language during chelation...

Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:47 AM

My son lost all speech at age 5 over a 6 month period. I concluded that it was

caused by a 20 day regime of amoxicilin which killed all good gut bugs and

permitted a yeast overgrowth which went undiagnosed and untreated for years. Now

at age 12 he is still without speech.

Since our cause of speech loss was yeast (I think), I suspect yeast always. DMSA

causes yeast. We have a very good and strong yeast protocol now and no longer

fear yeast as we once did.

Is yeast an issue for you?

________________________________

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@...>

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 8:13:15 AM

Subject: [ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom

[Guest guest]

> So,  those steps back due to the yeast growth on chelation are reversible?

You just have to stop the round?

The only issue I had to deal with during chelation was yeast overgrowth. I did

not stop the round tho, I just increased the yeast protocol. There were a few

times where I skipped a round, because yeast was being difficult to control.

But usually, increasing the yeast protocol as required, kept the yeast under

control. I used biotin and GSE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> So,  those steps back due to the yeast growth on chelation are reversible?

You just have to stop the round?

The only issue I had to deal with during chelation was yeast overgrowth. I did

not stop the round tho, I just increased the yeast protocol. There were a few

times where I skipped a round, because yeast was being difficult to control.

But usually, increasing the yeast protocol as required, kept the yeast under

control. I used biotin and GSE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Sorry, badly worded. Don't stop the round. You might have to take a round off to

deal with the yeast, that's what I meant.

And I should have said that I've never heard of a child losing language during

Cutler protocol.

I have heard of kids losing language with Dan! 8 hour dosing and a lot who lost

language with IV chelation.

Apologies for the confusion.

RecoveryFromAutism

Recovered 9 year old

[ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had

this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom

[Guest guest]

I didn't mean to say that they harmed their child with AC chelation. Rather,

they did so, not following it carefully enough.

Apologies for this confusion.

Asem

 

 

 

From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] losing language during chelation...

Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:47 AM

My son lost all speech at age 5 over a 6 month period. I concluded that it was

caused by a 20 day regime of amoxicilin which killed all good gut bugs and

permitted a yeast overgrowth which went undiagnosed and untreated for years. Now

at age 12 he is still without speech.

Since our cause of speech loss was yeast (I think), I suspect yeast always. DMSA

causes yeast. We have a very good and strong yeast protocol now and no longer

fear yeast as we once did.

Is yeast an issue for you?

________________________________

From: nikkibarbieri <nikkibarbieri@...>

Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 8:13:15 AM

Subject: [ ] losing language during chelation...

hi to all,

We are on Round #30 of AC protocol. My son has had some gains but expressive

language as little as it was is diminishing. Kind of scary. Has anyone had this

experience? Please let me know.Thanks in advance!Jakob's mom