What would happen if we decide not to do chelation?

[Guest guest]

This is all new and we are pretty afraid of what we are readin on the chelation

process. I have a son, 4 1/2, in the ADHD spectrum. What happens if we don't

move forward in chelation? Will things get worse in his behavior or stay the

same? I don't know how this will effect him at all.

[Guest guest]

I know it is scary stuff. It took us years to do chelation --mainly because

our son's neutrophil count was low. Then transdermal, oral, suppository

--none seemed to work. then we did IV and the results were amazing.

However, after seven months, our son would develop asthma like symptoms

afterward. so we took a break, and then went back and did IV chelation

using EDTA only. That got out a lot of lead and even aluminum. But after

about a month, our son had another asthma attack after a treatment.

I am going back to researching Andy's protocol, shich we didn't use in the

past (I don't know why. I think we should have) But now I am thinking of

the AC protocol, so we are researching this.

I know my son just can't detox normally, so he continues to pick up more

from environmental influences, so I fear that it would just keep

accumulating. If this is true for any kids, then this is not good. You as

the parent can be the only one who can make the final decision, but I have

seen thus far what has come out of my son, and I am thankful that at least

we've gotten quite a bit out. I only hope that given our son's asthma

issues, we can find a safe protocol. I'm hoping Andy's is the one.

Heavy metals bound to fatty tissues int he body continue to do damage while

they are in there. they don't belong in children's bodies. I certainly

don't believe my son would have become as high functioning as he has without

doing some form of chelation. But we are not fanatics --I mean we wouldn't

continue to do IV given the fact that he has had asthma symptoms afterward.

He never has these symptoms with the other forms we tried.

Hope this helps.

Haven

[Guest guest]

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> This is all new and we are pretty afraid of what we are readin on the

chelation process. I have a son, 4 1/2, in the ADHD spectrum. What happens if

we don't move forward in chelation? Will things get worse in his behavior or

stay the same? I don't know how this will effect him at all.

>

If you don't do chelation, he will never get well.

The future course of what will happen is very difficult to predict in detail

except to say he will fluctuate, being a bit better at some times, worse at

others, just oscillating around. It's easy to get deluded into thinking things

are going to be fine when you see the occasional positive oscillation in

behavior.

Andy

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If a person has mercury, arsenic, lead toxicity it wiil continue to wreak havoc

while in the body/brain. Metal toxicity can manifest in various different ways

including ASD, MS, Alzheimer's, etc.

S S

What would happen if we decide not to do chelation?

Posted by: " andrewo67 " andrewo67@... andrewo67

Sun Aug 1, 2010 7:32 pm (PDT)

This is all new and we are pretty afraid of what we are readin on the chelation

process. I have a son, 4 1/2, in the ADHD spectrum. What happens if we don't

move forward in chelation? Will things get worse in his behavior or stay the

same? I don't know how this will effect him at all.

[Guest guest]

Don't do IV chelation. You must stop relying on DAN! protocol, I think.

Pam

>

> Andy,

>

> I read your reply and was wondering what you thought in regards to my son

> having asthma attacks after IV. if he also then started having hives after

> eating broccoli and hives from taking Bactrim, are we going to be able to

> continue to chelate? I just read that ALA is very sulfury. My son has come

> so far, I want to be able to get these metals out, so he can heal. Could

> you tell me if you think by doing your protocol, he won't have the asthma

> issues? The last time he had one after IV EDTA was very scary.

>

> Leaving him to accumulate more on top of what is still in there is even

> scarier. What do we do?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Haven

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Andy,

> >

> > I read your reply and was wondering what you thought in regards to my son

> > having asthma attacks after IV.

Read www.dmpsbackfire.com and be glad it was so mild.

>if he also then started having hives after

> > eating broccoli and hives from taking Bactrim, are we going to be able to

> > continue to chelate?

Yes.

>I just read that ALA is very sulfury. My son has come

> > so far, I want to be able to get these metals out, so he can heal. Could

> > you tell me if you think by doing your protocol, he won't have the asthma

> > issues?

I don't know but it is much less likely, and if you are having trouble you could

try a thiol or sulfur food exclusion diet.

>The last time he had one after IV EDTA was very scary.

Ummm.... yes, there is a reason I tell people never to do this kind of thing no

matter what the doctor says.

> >

> > Leaving him to accumulate more on top of what is still in there is even

> > scarier. What do we do?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Haven

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[Guest guest]

Don't do anything that is sulfur based if he has a sulfur allergy. To do so

would be looking for immune responses and induce an asthmatic reaction (or

worse).

>

> Thanks Pam. I know we won't do IV again, but is it possible that we would

> get the same asthmatic reaction doing Andy's protocol? If my son has a

> sulfur allergy, can we do this?

>

> Haven

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Don't do anything that is sulfur based if he has a sulfur allergy.

Don't give advice when you don't have a clue.

>To do so would be looking for immune responses and induce an asthmatic reaction

(or worse).

This will not happen with " sulfur. " In fact, when you hear supposed experts

babbling excitedly about " sulfur " and acting like it is all the same, they have

no relevant expertise and you can safely ignore everything they say - in fact

not doing so can be dangerous.

There are several different forms of 'sulfur' the body handles quite

differently. Also, when someone reacts to some chemical with 'sulfur' in it,

the sulfur isn't necessarily the problem. E. g. penicillin allergy. Penicilin

has sulfur - thiol sulfur even - but people with pencillin allergy don't die

from eating eggs or beans.

Andy

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[Guest guest]

The sulfite issue can be a big one that chelation will eventually help. Do you

know what your son's molybdenum or B12 levels are like? They can affect sulfite

sensitivity. Personally,I think you should clean sulfites out of the diet and

work on increasing sulfite tolerance, and then chelate.

My daughter is sulfite sensitive and we have just started using ALA after

increasing her tolerance -so far, so good. There was probably something in the

IV that contained sulfites. To explore this issue more,you could check out the

sulfites no more group.

>

> Thanks Pam. I know we won't do IV again, but is it possible that we would

> get the same asthmatic reaction doing Andy's protocol? If my son has a

> sulfur allergy, can we do this?

>

> Haven

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Haven,

When you say cf, do you mean casein free or corn free? Wet-processed corn

products have sulfites. My daughter tolerates many natural sulfites, but not

processed corn, agave, maple syrup, non-organic coconut milk, etc. Eggs are also

an issue for her. Also, what is your son's copper status as molybdenum

antagonizes copper and copper is needed to process histamine? The broccoli

response may not be a sulfite thing, but an actual allergy.

Do you know if the IV contained dextrose?

I'm not Andy, but you do need sulfur in the form of sulfate to detox.

>

> Thanks to all of you.

>

> Andy, I agree, if it is a true allergy, then why no reaction to any sulfur

> containing foods other than broccoli? He tolerates eggs quite well --no

> noticeable anything, and I haven't noticed any hives with any other

> foods--just with broccoli and the Bactrim. Also, then why we he have the

> same asthmatic reaction to CA-EDTA IV ? Does this contain sulfur, or is the

> reaction just because this is a dangerous form of chelation?

>

> I also so that the body needs a certain amount of sulfur to detox. am I

> right Andy?

>

> As for sulfites, I have worked very hard to keep sulfites out of his diet.

> He is gfr/cf/sf and we give him no carbonated drinks, no dyes, no nitrites,

> no sulfites --unless I am missing a source.

>

> I just feel like I am missing something.

>

> , I think on last testing the B12 was fine but the molybdenum was

> high, and I was wondering what this could mean? I will recheck his B12. We

> took him off the injections because once he gained weight finally, he was

> gaining too much and the shots made him very voraciously hungry all the

> time. They also made him very hyper, so we discontinued them.

>

> Thanks. I know I have a lot of reading and studying to do!

>

>

>

> Haven

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