Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Hi everyone. Has anyone noticed shifting of teeth. (Maybe caused by gum difficulty) My daughter had her braces removed at 17. Her teeth were perfect. She got AIH at 19 (probably before) and now at 21 swears her teeth have shifted a lot. She's also facing the dentist with trepidation. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks, Jaye (Tara's mother) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 My teeth are shifting. I thought maybe i was just going crazy or something. >From: BShel502@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Teeth >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:50:55 EDT > >From: BShel502@... > >Hi everyone. > Has anyone noticed shifting of teeth. (Maybe caused by gum >difficulty) >My daughter had her braces removed at 17. Her teeth were perfect. She got >AIH at 19 (probably before) and now at 21 swears her teeth have shifted a >lot. She's also facing the dentist with trepidation. Has anyone else >noticed >this? > Thanks, Jaye (Tara's mother) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Make your voice heard! > >Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please support the American Liver Foundation! > >1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist >2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist >3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist >4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 1999 Report Share Posted June 16, 1999 --- BShel502@... wrote: > From: BShel502@... > > Hi everyone. > Has anyone noticed shifting of teeth. (Maybe > caused by gum difficulty) > My daughter had her braces removed at 17. Her teeth > were perfect. She got > AIH at 19 (probably before) and now at 21 swears her > teeth have shifted a > lot. She's also facing the dentist with > trepidation. Has anyone else noticed > this? > Thanks, Jaye (Tara's mother) Hi Jaye, Several years ago before AIH, I woke up one morning and my mouth didn't seem to close properly. It persisted throughout the day so I went to see my dentist. I actually thought that my jaw shifted. The dentist said that I couldn't close my mouth fully because one of my top teeth was hitting a tooth on my lower jaw. He filed a part of the tooth down ever so slightly (it wasn't even visible) and everything was fine. He said that sometimes teeth do shift and even the slightest milimeter can make a difference in the way the teeth meet when the mouth is closed. I never had any spaces between my teeth and even now it seems that the teeth are getting closer together, I notice the difference when flossing. I don't know if your daughter's experience is the same. I hope this helps. === Barbara Ann Transplant Recipient _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 1999 Report Share Posted June 17, 1999 Hi my name is Kathy and I hardly post but I always read everyhting. I justed wanted to reply to this about shifting teeth. I just came from my dentist because I had a tooth just fall out. The cause of this is do to bone loss, which will also cause shifting of the teeth. He says this is caused from prednisone. He has recommened root planting which will smooth out the surface so that the gums can try to re-attach to the bone. I am going to talk to my liver doctor before I have this done since they have to pull all your gums loose and then irrigate down to the root. I am worried about infection and it not ever healing. I hope this helps. Kathy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 1999 Report Share Posted September 19, 1999 I thought I had read a posting where somebody else was experiencing cold sensivity with their teeth. I have been having to drink everything out of a straw lately because if I don't, it hurts my teeth. Is this from the Prednisone or what causes that? Audra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Audra I had made a post regarding cold bothering my teeth. I ended up needing a root canal. Since then I do not have that intense pain but in general I feel that all my teeth are more sensitive to cold. Cold never bothered me before now when I eat ice cream my teeth hurt but it does stop after a short time, go figure? Pa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Sometimes the gum shrinks back from the tooth surface and the tooth under the gum line is very sensitive. I used Sensidyne toothpaste for a long time and eventually the sensitivity went away. J >From: La7de@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Re: teeth >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:50:01 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-165537-6831-shireen42 Mon Sep 20 14:50:07 1999 >Received: from [209.207.164.221] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB9AFF70F00A2D82197C3D1CFA4DD12F00; Mon Sep 20 14:50:07 1999 >Received: (qmail 4465 invoked by alias); 20 Sep 1999 21:50:48 -0000 >Received: (qmail 4458 invoked from network); 20 Sep 1999 21:50:44 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo20.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.10) by >pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 1999 21:50:44 -0000 >Received: from La7de@... by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id >hKCGa21483 (4404) for < onelist>; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 >17:50:01 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <1576c52f.25180609@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 27 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: La7de@... > >Audra and , > >Try using a toothpaste for sensitive teeth, like Sensodyne. That will >probably help. I can't think of why they would be sensitive to cold now, >and >not before, but if I come up with an answer I'll let you know. > > (AIH) >Dental Hygienist > >>Please support the American Liver Foundation! > >1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist >2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist >3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist >4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Audra and , Try using a toothpaste for sensitive teeth, like Sensodyne. That will probably help. I can't think of why they would be sensitive to cold now, and not before, but if I come up with an answer I'll let you know. (AIH) Dental Hygienist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 My teeth are sensitive too. Come to think of it...they started getting sensitive when I was diagnosed. Hmmmm! Teri PSC /UC inNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 I have noticed a lot of sensitivity to cold in my front teeth. This started several months ago after I stopped taking prednisone. My dentist had a bite guard made which I use at night to ensure I don't clench my teeth when I sleep. I also use Enamelon followed by a fluoride rinse (ACT) which someone on this list suggested. Alas, after over a month of using these remedies, I don't think the problem is any better. It did give me the incentive to have a bone density check done though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Teri, What medications are you taking? Teri120366@... wrote: > > From: Teri120366@... > > My teeth are sensitive too. Come to think of it...they started getting > sensitive when I was diagnosed. Hmmmm! > Teri > PSC /UC inNC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1999 Report Share Posted September 20, 1999 Audra, I also had a post about sensitive teeth several months ago. Mine have been that way for yrs & I have used sensodyn for yrs but they were worse after I was diagnosed & I realized I was clinching quite a lot.Then I learned I had 3 cracked teeth for which I had to have crowns. They are much better. I also have been using Biotene toothpaste which is supposed to be good for dry mouth & bacteria. I have a son that is a Dentist but unfortunetly he lives elsewhere so I couldn't have him do my work to save those $. I really prefer the electric toothbrush which I have used for sometime & I think may have helped with my sensitivty. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck to you. Leona M. AIH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 I have been on Prednisone, Azulfidine, in the past. Flagyl for a few of my Ulcerative Colitis flare ups. I was on Actigall when I first found out I had PSC. I've tried taking Asacol on several different occasions but it just makes the colitis worse. So I have found by drinking Metamucil twice a day daily..I can usually get through any flare ups unless there is bacteria involved then the flagyl clears it out. Of course...my gastro doc. doesn't listen to my reasoning. But I pretty much know my body. The last month I have had the worse cold I've ever had, a flare up & I have been extremely depessed. Went to my Family doctor today for Blood work etc. & will have a CT Scan of my abdomen because I have an area in my abdomen mid to lower right that sometimes is extremely tender and painful to the touch. The Gastro doc at Duke did a Colonoscopy & said there's no reason as far as the results go why one place would be any more tender than the next because over 70% of my Colon is ulcerated. Today I started a trial period of an anti depressant. I hope it works. Teri PSC/UC in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 just went to the dentist and her remy said that alot of the meds for JRA have alot of suger in them like Motrin and pedie pred had three fillings!!! >From: Jitz45@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Teeth >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:58:43 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-80038-1732-shancna=hotmail.comonelist Fri Oct 22 17:58:57 >1999 >Received: (qmail 14761 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 1999 00:57:30 -0000 >Received: (qmail 14705 invoked from network); 23 Oct 1999 00:57:28 -0000 >Received: from unknown (209.207.164.239) by pop2.onelist.com with QMQP; 23 >Oct 1999 00:57:27 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo28.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.72) by >mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 1999 00:58:50 -0000 >Received: from Jitz45@... by imo28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id >hUINa18036 (4250) for < onelist>; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:58:43 >-0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <0.97032a3e.25426243@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: Jitz45@... > >Hi, regarding the teeth, I just brought my 8 yr old son to Dentist because >his teeth were very yellow, he cleaned them but wasn't sure it was beacause >of meds I will ask pediatric rheumy about this next visit. His second >teeth >are slow coming in I was wondering if it was due to steroids. Anyone else >notice this? Jane > >>Visit my homepage for a list of sites with info on childhood arthritis: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 In a message dated 10/22/99 5:07:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, foxpro@... writes: << hello! I was curious if anyone else worries about their children's teeth with all these medications they are on? I have noticed since has started taking MTX her teeth are getting yellow. Anyone else notice that with their children's teeth? Any tips on how to whiten teeth? >> With methotrexate, it's not so much the teeth you need to worry about as the gums. After I had been taking it for awhile, I needed oral surgery because my gums had swollen to the point where the orthodontist would've had to take my braces off years early to prevent infection. Oral surgery is not fun. I got to lay in the dentist's chair for a few hours smelling my own flesh being burned away with a laser. I was around fifteen at the time, I doubt it would be any less traumatic for a younger child. cheers Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 Hi, regarding the teeth, I just brought my 8 yr old son to Dentist because his teeth were very yellow, he cleaned them but wasn't sure it was beacause of meds I will ask pediatric rheumy about this next visit. His second teeth are slow coming in I was wondering if it was due to steroids. Anyone else notice this? Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 1999 Report Share Posted October 23, 1999 My daughter has the most awful teeth. She had a crown put on a molar only 4 months after it came through. She had another 5 fillings before she was three and a half. This was prior to JRA though. When I was at the JRA conference in Chicago there was another parent in the Systemic break out group that said they have 6 kids and they all have wonderful teeth except for the youngest who has the JRA and that his teeth got very bad after he started the steroids. The doctors all say it can't be the steroids and start to find reasons, like not brushing properly, or drinking milk before bed, etc., but they swear that nothing is different about their 6th child except the JRA the teeth and the steroids. Surely there must be a connection? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 1999 Report Share Posted October 23, 1999 Hello I feel the reason that I had to have all my upper teeth pulled were do to the meds that I have token through out the years. I was on pred for 8+ years. I brushed daily and did all those things you were suppose to do and they still had to be pulled, I do feel the meds have something to do with it. My webpages: http://fadedjeans.com/jraworld http://www.bmi.net/acnelson Reach me by ICQ. ICQ# 34033888 [ ] Teeth hello! I was curious if anyone else worries about their children's teeth with all these medications they are on? I have noticed since has started taking MTX her teeth are getting yellow. Anyone else notice that with their children's teeth? Any tips on how to whiten teeth? Also, I can't remember who mentioned 's lumps that I wrote about. The lumps are like jello and they are on the backs of her hands. They are the size of a peanut m-n-m. Then in her wrist she gets nodules (pea-sized, hard as rock). Amy *digest version* Mother to (3 years old), (22 months old) and Madeline (5 months old) *Inside every little girl is the wise and gentle spirit of a woman of God* *Inside every little boy is the compassion and strength of a man of God* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit my homepage for a list of sites with info on childhood arthritis: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 Hi Amy, Does your daughter take iron? Elliot was taking Fer-in-sol and had some discoloration which polished out when he visited the dentist. He also takes mtx but he has not had any problems. Usually the nodules in the wrist are hard due to the fact that there is very little room for the synovial fluid to bulge out- there are alot of bones in the wrist so fluid gathers in one area and bulges out. I imagine that on the top of the hand there is a larger amount of space so the fluid has a jelly-like consistency. Rena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 Hi Jane, I had discussed this with my dentist and he did say that it was likely that adult teeth would come in late secondary to steroid use. Although my son who is turning 8 (and does not have JRA) just lost his first top tooth- I don't think you are terribly late yet. Rena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1999 Report Share Posted October 24, 1999 Hi , It would figure that we dont have enough to worry about- now we can keep the dentist busy too! Does your daughter swellow pills? Before Elliot turned 5 , I decided that I was sick of crushing pills or measuring out liquid. A friend of mine had told me that she taught her child to swallow pills using an elbow macaroni cut in half. (cooked of course) The size comes close to a pill size, and the texture is slippery. Well it worked for Elliot. You may be able to take a NSAID in pill form instead of the sweet liquid. Good luck, Rena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 1999 Report Share Posted October 25, 1999 Hi Amy: My daughter, Sara (3 years) is also on MTX and her 2 bottom teeth in front are stained in a brwoinsh color (like when smoker's get germs on their teeth). At first, I thoght it was the Poly-Visol vitamins (with Iron ) she was taking but she has come off that for a while and she still has the stains. I wondor if its the MTX that's doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 Hi, Well, I'm not sure how this will fit in with others experiences but Josh has the most beautiful white, sparkly teeth and has had very few cavities. My daughter Kayla(the one without JRA), on the other hand, seems to need a new filling almost every time we go to see her dentist! Josh is much more careful, brushing about three times a day and flossing regularly. Kayla often brushes only in the morning or after being reminded to before bedtime, and she likes to hurry through, despite my even getting a two minute timer to help her out. She also loves to chew gum. And I'm positive that's why her teeth aren't as strong as her brother's. Josh also takes calcium supplements daily so maybe that's helped out? His gums are in really good shape, too. I hope he doesn't have the sort of trouble Jenni mentioned, in the future, as he's been taking MTX for 4 and a half years..... so far! But it doesn't seem like the meds he takes have affected his teeth as of yet. He did have trouble with one tooth not wanting to come out, when the other adult tooth was already pushing through. It was a pain for him because it would wiggle and move when he was eating and sometimes talking, so finally we asked the dentist to remove it. It was so easy with the dental pliers but for a couple months, it was very persistent about wanting to stay. I've worried about how his jaw might not be growing fast enough, because of the JRA, but so far the dentist says there's no problem. My online friend Ann's daughter did need major reconstructive surgery for that problem. She had JRA since she was little and had the jaw surgery at age 16, to correct deformities from the illness. Her jaw hadn't grown for lots of years. Not related to prednisone, though. She took mostly just aspirins for her pain and swelling. Take care, Georgina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2000 Report Share Posted March 11, 2000 Hi Vicki, I know what you mean about teeth. I was on abx off and on for years for URI's, Sinus, ect. My teeth started to turn and they kept telling me to stop smoking, drinking coffee and tea, none of which I do. The Zith helped me the most, I have been on it about 4 years. It is the only thing that helps my fibro pain. Recently had a bad URI again and he put me on Biaxin Double Strength 500mgs 2..day. Anyway it gave me a #$%$## of as herx. maybe I should go back to Biaxin. I was on Biaxin when I got bit and was so sick, my doctor nor I knew about lyme and the Herx's. I guess I will have to go talk to him. Maybe i will stick with the Zith since it allows me to work and as soon as school is out, hit the Biaxin and herx all summer, maybe I can get rid of this #$%## thing. Sorry about the swear words. It had been 6 1/2 years and the more I lecture, research, ect, the worse I feel for everyone not understanding our plight. And now look how many are going to be chronically ill from the vaccine. the circle is forever. I hope to see you in Gettysburg. If you saw the NY pictures, I am the short, fat redhead, you can't miss me. Love and hugs, This list is the greatest because of the people who care. Connie, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2000 Report Share Posted March 11, 2000 In a message dated 3/11/00 3:31:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cslyme@... writes: << I am the short, fat redhead, you can't miss me. >> Don't believe what Connies says ! She is the beautiful readhead with the sweetest smile who loves to shop at the Disney Store : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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