Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thanks so much for sharing this info Dana. Thyroid problems run in my family and my second son has not lost any teeth at the age of 7.5. He gets selenium and sometimes iodine but not tyrosine. I will give that a try. My youngest age 3 Zyto-tested as needing thyroid support too. He has really flat feet, which I have read may be related to thyroid deficiency. How much tyrosine did you give your kids? In reflexology maps the area of the foot that corresponds to the thyroid surrounds the big toe joint. I've personally observed that bunions seem common in people with thyroid issues. Even my little one has a slight bump there. I wonder if others have seen this. Thx again! Jo > > Dana > > We found that our son has pain--4 impacted wisdom teeth that are going to need to come out. > > > I had 13 teeth pulled when I was 13. Four of them were impacted wisdom teeth. Two of those teeth were fused to the bone. > > My kids have been late in having their teeth fall out. I learned that it requires thyroid hormone for the roots of primary teeth to dissolve. It also requires thyroid hormone for the body to convert carotenes, which was my son's biggest food problem. > > I started thyroid support supplements [selenium, iodine, and tyrosine], and within 3 weeks, my #3 lost the four teeth that it was looking like I would have to have pulled. #2 has lost two teeth already, after not losing teeth for many years [he is 14 now]. I started those supps for myself, and have lost several issues already. > > I don't know if your son's problem is related to thyroid, but definitely something to consider. Just beware of regular thyroid tests. My #4 had a regular thyroid test from her ped, which showed normal, but she also benefited from thyroid support supps. Tyrosine is the last supp my kids need, so soon we will be supplement free! > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 > Could these help in making this surgery easier for him? I don't know. I have avoided surgery for my kids, but I did have it myself. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 > Thanks so much for sharing this info Dana. Thyroid problems run in my family and my second son has not lost any teeth at the age of 7.5. He gets selenium and sometimes iodine but not tyrosine. Selenium and tyrosine were key here. Some people need the iodine, some don't. I used low doses for about a month, but that is all we needed. >>How much tyrosine did you give your kids? Right now 250mg. It severely depletes B2, and somewhat depletes B1. B2 requires carnitine. And the combination increases yeast. So it took a while to get everything in the right proportion. Then I kept the dose for a while, to build up stores. At this point, my kids have sufficient stores that I don't have to give the heavy doses of the other stuff any more, so this weekend I will probably increase to 500mg. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I understand that this is unavoidable. His teeth are growing sideways into the backs of the other teeth, not through the gum. I understand that the pressure from this cause excruciating pain. From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: teeth Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:09 AM  > Could these help in making this surgery easier for him? I don't know. I have avoided surgery for my kids, but I did have it myself. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 ok. thanks. From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: teeth Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 9:44 AM  > where can i find what dosage(s) of those supplements to give my 8yr old? I started with conservative doses. 50mcg iodine, 50mcg selenium, 250mg tyrosine. I did selenium first, then iodine, then tyrosine. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 > > I dont see any info on this so i thought i would post a question to anyone that can help. I need a root canal done and fast. My tooth is killing me. I hear that getting those are bad. Ive had 2 already done before. I cant pull it cause its would be noticeable. Any suggestions on an alternative to a root canal? > +++Hi Sue, There have been a lot of messages on this group about this, so you need to do a Message Search using Subject to find them - you must be on the Group's actual website to do that (click on Messages on the left menu). It is true that getting root canals or implants are dangerous since they are like a " sliver " intruding into the gums/jaw. This causes your body to create inflammation and infection under them in order to get rid of them, similar to having a sliver in your skin. If you get such symptoms under your current root canals they must be removed, or the constant inflammation will interfere with you getting healthy. Alternatives include bridges, crowns (if possible) and partial plates. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hi Sue, I was recently listening to a podcast on oneradionetwork.com with Dr. Stuart Nunelly who is a wholistic dentist talking about what to do about replacing teeth. One sugggestion he made that was an alternative to a bridge was to bond a fake tooth to the two adjacent teeth by only cutting a sliver off of the two adjacent teeth rather than grinding them down to add crowns for a bridge. He said this method may not be as sturdy as a bridge but it at least preserves most of the integrity of the adjacent teeth. Here is the url of the podcast if you care to listen to his interview: http://www.oneradionetwork.com/health_-_podcasts/dental_healing/top_holistic_den\ tist_-_suart_nunnally_-_wednesday_live_on_the_morning_show_with_patrick_timpone_\ 201008311844/ Hope this helps, Lya On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I dont see any info on this so i thought i would post a question to > anyone that can help. I need a root canal done and fast. My tooth is killing > me. I hear that getting those are bad. Ive had 2 already done before. I cant > pull it cause its would be noticeable. Any suggestions on an alternative to > a root canal? > > > +++Hi Sue, > > There have been a lot of messages on this group about this, so you need to > do a Message Search using Subject to find them - you must be on the Group's > actual website to do that (click on Messages on the left menu). > > It is true that getting root canals or implants are dangerous since they > are like a " sliver " intruding into the gums/jaw. This causes your body to > create inflammation and infection under them in order to get rid of them, > similar to having a sliver in your skin. If you get such symptoms under your > current root canals they must be removed, or the constant inflammation will > interfere with you getting healthy. > > Alternatives include bridges, crowns (if possible) and partial plates. > > All the best, Bee > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tooth pain is common with lyme patients. the bacteria attack small blood vessels. My teeth started hurting all over my mouth last summer. quickly a molar under a bridge became infected and both had to be removed. amoxillin helps the tooth pain but is not the drug to take for lyme as it promotes cell-deficient growth. now the right molar (same one, different side) is infected. The endodontist checked it 2 weeks ago and couldn't find any reason for a root canal. He will see this week how quickly lyme infection has progressed and we will have a root canal. Lyme attacks teeth from the inside as well as the crowns. I had to find a lyme-literate dentist (went through 3 who weren't). From now on any doctor I see must be lyme literate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I would not recommend a root canal for Lyme patients!! The dead tooth is a breeding ground for bacteria. The bacteria hide in the microtubules of the dead tooth. One may save the tooth, but then the tooth and the surrounding bone becomes infected. Better to pull the tooth. Seriously! I am still dealing with a jaw bone infection from a root canal. I have lost quite a few teeth due to Lyme disease (which was undiagnosed at the time). I suggest that you find an LLMD who will aggressively treat you for Lyme and Bart (which loves teeth, gums, mouth). Also, I suggest that you use various detox products - particularly lymphatic detox - to clean out the debris around the problem tooth. Good luck! On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Molly MacBean <molly.macbean@...>wrote: > > > Tooth pain is common with lyme patients. the bacteria attack small blood > vessels. My teeth started hurting all over my mouth last summer. quickly a > molar under a bridge became infected and both had to be removed. amoxillin > helps the tooth pain but is not the drug to take for lyme as it promotes > cell-deficient growth. now the right molar (same one, different side) is > infected. The endodontist checked it 2 weeks ago and couldn't find any > reason > for a root canal. He will see this week how quickly lyme infection has > progressed and we will have a root canal. Lyme attacks teeth from the > inside as > well as the crowns. I had to find a lyme-literate dentist (went through 3 > who > weren't). From now on any doctor I see must be lyme literate. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I tried this route, I pulled the tooth instead of getting the root canal. The teeth shifted and 5 years later I needed a $3000 bridge. In the process of crowning the teeth around the missing tooth, I am in so much pain. I believe the dentist hit a nerve. When you crown teeth you tend to need root canals. Its like you can't win either way. I am probably now going to need a root canal on the tooth that was being crowned. Pulling teeth is ok but eventually it catches up, they shift, you need bridges, and then you cause more damage and materials being put in you. Im stuck between a rock and a hard place. Its tough to tell whats best to do. In a message dated 3/5/2011 11:19:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, valerie.richey@... writes: I would not recommend a root canal for Lyme patients!! The dead tooth is a breeding ground for bacteria. The bacteria hide in the microtubules of the dead tooth. One may save the tooth, but then the tooth and the surrounding bone becomes infected. Better to pull the tooth. Seriously! I am still dealing with a jaw bone infection from a root canal. I have lost quite a few teeth due to Lyme disease (which was undiagnosed at the time). I suggest that you find an LLMD who will aggressively treat you for Lyme and Bart (which loves teeth, gums, mouth). Also, I suggest that you use various detox products - particularly lymphatic detox - to clean out the debris around the problem tooth. Good luck! On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Molly MacBean <_molly.macbean@..._ (mailto:molly.macbean@...) >wrote: > > > Tooth pain is common with lyme patients. the bacteria attack small blood > vessels. My teeth started hurting all over my mouth last summer. quickly a > molar under a bridge became infected and both had to be removed. amoxillin > helps the tooth pain but is not the drug to take for lyme as it promotes > cell-deficient growth. now the right molar (same one, different side) is > infected. The endodontist checked it 2 weeks ago and couldn't find any > reason > for a root canal. He will see this week how quickly lyme infection has > progressed and we will have a root canal. Lyme attacks teeth from the > inside as > well as the crowns. I had to find a lyme-literate dentist (went through 3 > who > weren't). From now on any doctor I see must be lyme literate. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- L. Richey, MD, ND, BCIM The Healthy Path, LLC _http://www.the-healthy-path.org_ (http://www.the-healthy-path.org/) _http://www.autism-in-the-christian-home.com_ (http://www.autism-in-the-christian-home.com/) GOT HEALTH? Sweet Creations Alpaca Farm, LLC _http://www.sweet-creations-alpaca-farm.org_ (http://www.sweet-creations-alpaca-farm.org/) GOT ALPACAS? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Good advice which I will share with my doctor and dentist. If anyone else is being treated for teeth problems pls email me. Thank you! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: " L. Richey, MD, ND " <valerie.richey@...> Sender: Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:12:00 < > Reply-to: @...: Re: [ ] Re: Teeth I would not recommend a root canal for Lyme patients!! The dead tooth is a breeding ground for bacteria. The bacteria hide in the microtubules of the dead tooth. One may save the tooth, but then the tooth and the surrounding bone becomes infected. Better to pull the tooth. Seriously! I am still dealing with a jaw bone infection from a root canal. I have lost quite a few teeth due to Lyme disease (which was undiagnosed at the time). I suggest that you find an LLMD who will aggressively treat you for Lyme and Bart (which loves teeth, gums, mouth). Also, I suggest that you use various detox products - particularly lymphatic detox - to clean out the debris around the problem tooth. Good luck! On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Molly MacBean <molly.macbean@...>wrote: > > > Tooth pain is common with lyme patients. the bacteria attack small blood > vessels. My teeth started hurting all over my mouth last summer. quickly a > molar under a bridge became infected and both had to be removed. amoxillin > helps the tooth pain but is not the drug to take for lyme as it promotes > cell-deficient growth. now the right molar (same one, different side) is > infected. The endodontist checked it 2 weeks ago and couldn't find any > reason > for a root canal. He will see this week how quickly lyme infection has > progressed and we will have a root canal. Lyme attacks teeth from the > inside as > well as the crowns. I had to find a lyme-literate dentist (went through 3 > who > weren't). From now on any doctor I see must be lyme literate. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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