Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi, First of all, kids are never too late to start anything.....everything helps. To address her digestive issues are you giving her digestive enymes? That would go a long way to helping with the smelly poops, etc. and also help her utilize the foods she is eating. You may need to do more of an SCD diet with her (limiting her carbs drastically) to those that are more easily digested. Make sure she has lots of good fats to help satiate her appetite and give her good nutrition. nancy j a child is diagnosed with asd every 20 seconds From: Orange Apple <rodler14@...> Subject: [ ] New having questions Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:44 AM  Hello! My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I was not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with these issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in order to drag a child from autism. 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to know that she is ready for it? 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give me some direction where to search. Best regards, r14  ________________________________ From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:05:58 PM Subject: [ ] Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!!  Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a B complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E, Zinc). Work on tolerance of all these. I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements: Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil) Biotin Oil of Oregano Olive Leaf Extract Candidaise Candex Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for the best results. Liz > > Hi! > We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own. > I have several questions though, if anyone can? > First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days on > & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in the >shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw Mom >w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab & >the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories) >she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to wait >til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate >just not to challenge test with she says). > > SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that route. >Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD >BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back >good. > > He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that all >allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this?? > We really need help here!!! > I have also read about celantro chelating??? > We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test >gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK??? > How much ALA for 60lb child??? > What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at >night). > Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the >yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told >him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that >he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this >stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him >again. BUT we really do need help now... > > PLEASE!!! > Thanks! > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Thank you, nancy j. I will search regarding the SCD. I read about it, but didn't want to do it. The biggest reason was that with low carbohydrates, I am affraid to breake sugar balance and provoke diabetis. If anyone here has some experience with it, and could share a story (hope it won't sound too offtop here!), maybe in personal post. With good fats - she only eats them from meat, plus olive oil which I give her spoon or two a day. But, with olive oil, her stool becomes fatty. I am thinking about introducing some lipasa enzymes, but not sure which brand is good. Best, r ________________________________ From: nancy cook <endofautism@...> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:59:23 PM Subject: Re: [ ] New having questions  Hi, First of all, kids are never too late to start anything.....everything helps. To address her digestive issues are you giving her digestive enymes? That would go a long way to helping with the smelly poops, etc. and also help her utilize the foods she is eating. You may need to do more of an SCD diet with her (limiting her carbs drastically) to those that are more easily digested. Make sure she has lots of good fats to help satiate her appetite and give her good nutrition. nancy j a child is diagnosed with asd every 20 seconds From: Orange Apple <rodler14@...> Subject: [ ] New having questions Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:44 AM  Hello! My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I was not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with these issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in order to drag a child from autism. 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to know that she is ready for it? 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give me some direction where to search. Best regards, r14  ________________________________ From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:05:58 PM Subject: [ ] Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!!  Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a B complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E, Zinc). Work on tolerance of all these. I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements: Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil) Biotin Oil of Oregano Olive Leaf Extract Candidaise Candex Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for the best results. Liz > > Hi! > We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own. > I have several questions though, if anyone can? > First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days on > > & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in the >shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw Mom > >w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab & > >the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories) >she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to wait >til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate >just not to challenge test with she says). > > SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that route. > >Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD >BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back >good. > > He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that all >allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this?? > We really need help here!!! > I have also read about celantro chelating??? > We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test >gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK??? > How much ALA for 60lb child??? > What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at >night). > Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the >yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told >him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that > >he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this >stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him >again. BUT we really do need help now... > > PLEASE!!! > Thanks! > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hello, I hope that my question is not too offtop here. I am trying to solve a dilemma. My child has inflammatory gut, candida. She also takes antibacterial medication for Clostridia. Should I stop giving her supplements until we resolve ALL issues with the gut? Everytime I give elements (very basic: zinc), she has candida behavior which is tantrums, stims, and I give her antifungal. She is on MB12 shots as well. I am not sure if I should keep on with zinc, because it's side effect - yeast - actually doesn't let me to see any good effect from the injections and supplements. She takes antifungals daily, up to 3 or 4 times. Thanks to all who will answer.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi, If a GF diet isn't helping your daughter I would suggest dropping it. Sorry if this seems simplistic but in reading your message below I don't see where changing your daughter's diet caused any improvements. If the old diet was better, I would go back to that and see if something else - like chelation with the AC protocol - might help her. Maggied. > > Hello! > My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed > yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we > found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly > started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I was > not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with these > issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I > give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and > irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. > > I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: > 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On > some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in > order to drag a child from autism. > > 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is > bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? > > 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to > know that she is ready for it? > 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? > > Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give > me some direction where to search. > Best regards, > r14 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 B12 can cause aggressive behavior, very similar to yeast. Our youngest tried the shots and we had to stop. TJ ________________________________ From: Orange Apple <rodler14@...> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 12:31:53 PM Subject: Re: [ ] New having questions Hello, I hope that my question is not too offtop here. I am trying to solve a dilemma. My child has inflammatory gut, candida. She also takes antibacterial medication for Clostridia. Should I stop giving her supplements until we resolve ALL issues with the gut? Everytime I give elements (very basic: zinc), she has candida behavior which is tantrums, stims, and I give her antifungal. She is on MB12 shots as well. I am not sure if I should keep on with zinc, because it's side effect - yeast - actually doesn't let me to see any good effect from the injections and supplements. She takes antifungals daily, up to 3 or 4 times. Thanks to all who will answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi, I'd recommend the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. Read " Breaking the Vicious Cycle, " and visit www.pecanbread.com for more info. I'm an adult who had an immune system breakdown after antibiotics, the flu and then a flu shot, and SCD is saving my life (along with other supportive therapies). I tried GFCF and it didn't do anything for me. Ellen > > Hello! > My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed > yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we > found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly > started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I was > not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with these > issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I > give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and > irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Bad behaviours can be many things. Perhaps the antibacterial for Clostridia is causing a die-off reaction? I would continue with supplements, the body needs them particularly if it is under stress. If it is die-off, activated charcoal (given away from supps) would be helpful. If giving anti-fungals 3-4 times a day, it could be die-off from the yeast. Again, activated charcoal would help. Could be MB12 side effects but if that was the case, you would be seeing improvements mixed in with the negative behaviour. I don't understand the connection between zinc and what you call 'yeasty' behaviour? Maybe it's a reaction to the brand of zinc? My little one is very brand sensitive. Sometimes you just have to experiment to find one that your child will tolerate. I would suggest stopping MB12, continuing on the supps that your child can tolerate and giving the gut a chance to heal. Just so you can determine what is causing the behaviour if it is intolerable and causing your family so much stress. Of course, you could just supplement whatever you can and continue antifungals whilst chelating. That way you can be getting rid of those metals that are causing all this in the first place. ---- Orange Apple <rodler14@...> wrote: > Hello, > I hope that my question is not too offtop here. I am trying to solve a dilemma. > My child has inflammatory gut, candida. She also takes antibacterial medication > for Clostridia. > > Should I stop giving her supplements until we resolve ALL issues with the gut? > Everytime I give elements (very basic: zinc), she has candida behavior which is > tantrums, stims, and I give her antifungal. She is on MB12 shots as well. I am > not sure if I should keep on with zinc, because it's side effect - yeast - > actually doesn't let me to see any good effect from the injections and > supplements. She takes antifungals daily, up to 3 or 4 times. > Thanks to all who will answer. > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 In my opinion, it's never too late to help your kids get healthier. Age doesn't matter, it just means that the older the child is the more time their body has had to get messed up. My understanding is that there will be gains, it just takes longer for them to heal. You mention yeast is a problem. How did you treat it? We have big problems with sugar metabolism (indicated by observed behaviour and hair test) so a strict sugar free diet helped us with behaviour and also ensured we weren't providing a 'yeast-feast'!. Digestive enzymes also important in this regard. Has 13 months on gfcf helped at all? Maybe food allergy testing could shed some light on other foods that are aggravating your child's system. Hope you find the answers you seek soon, I haven't heard before that yeast feed on supplements so I can't offer any suggestions there. ---- Orange Apple <rodler14@...> wrote: > Hello! > My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed > yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we > found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly > started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I was > not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with these > issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I > give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and > irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. > > I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: > 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On > some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in > order to drag a child from autism. > > 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is > bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? > > 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to > know that she is ready for it? > 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? > > Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give > me some direction where to search. > Best regards, > r14 > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> > > Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:05:58 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!! > >  > Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would > suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and > oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may > already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a B > complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E, Zinc). > Work on tolerance of all these. > > > I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements: > > Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil) > Biotin > Oil of Oregano > Olive Leaf Extract > Candidaise > Candex > > Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut > kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it > is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep > strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for > the best results. > > Liz > > > > > > Hi! > > We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own. > > I have several questions though, if anyone can? > > First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days on > > & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in the > >shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw Mom > >w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab & > >the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories) > >she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to wait > >til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate > >just not to challenge test with she says). > > > > SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that route. > >Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD > >BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back > >good. > > > > He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that all > >allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this?? > > We really need help here!!! > > I have also read about celantro chelating??? > > We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test > >gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK??? > > How much ALA for 60lb child??? > > What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at > >night). > > Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the > >yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told > >him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that > >he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this > >stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him > >again. BUT we really do need help now... > > > > PLEASE!!! > > Thanks! > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 If you were mentally retarded and did not know to avoid the 731 foods all containing lead from Saudi Arabia's continued use of leaded gasoline blowing into the crops (and air) of America, be advised that you should not burden the immune system of the children and if you'll get Mei Ling's book it names the foods you can feed them (rather than racking your brains). It also descibes how Raun Kaufman was cured! Good luck to everyone, autism only in any country that Gerber sells its wheat cereals to, see " radon map " under Google, click on the states making baby cereals, i.e. South Dakota and Kansas, gluten discovered to be the radon gas molecule. My best friend is Mei Ling (also known as " Minc. " ) She's been in some kind of FDA government conspiracy since the 1990s, but is getting interviewed by The Washington Journal so the news should hit anyday. Meanwhile watch FOX News Glen Beck who is trying to charge The United States President, based on the 1999 FDA Food Analyte Matrix report (in the book, MERCURY IN BABY FOODS: WHAT THE FDA KEPT FROM THE WORLD OF AUTISM, www.Xlibris.com, not coming out on amazon.com for a month, sold wholesale at Xlibris). We are either going to charge President Obama with CHILD ENDANGERMENT or TREASON, so watch Fox News reporters try to make a list as good as hers to avoid all 731 foods with lead poisoning, Mei Ling having studied Nutritional Neurosciences and writing for The Nobel Peace Prize now. She shall not be undone by The FDA or any government agency taking bribes from China (see " CSPI and potassium bromate, " my love to all of you!) The FDA thought, " keep the hysteria down, America will just eat all of the lead poisoning in our crops and then it will be gone since we do not use leaded gasoline anymore, but did not study the wind currents, the cure to get a 6.2 on a hair analysis as yet to be released by Mei Ling on The Dr. Phil Show soon. Start off with all peeled fruits and vegetables like Raun Kaufman did, according to The Dr. Phil Show you own 25 years to grow a " pineal gland " or " reasoning center " in the human brain, so much hope for all! Autism is only in the very countries eating radon gas contamination in the gluten molecule and the children trying to grow a center cortex. Naturally, you need wheat, oats, barley or rice to grow any hemisphere of the brain to perfection so you can successfully use both hemispheres. Now, my mother used Gerber wheat cereal to grow my left hemisphere, which is why I cannot do math, but the spiritual side of me is strong and I stand by Minc Bumgarner, my closest neighbor who has helped me so much with my child. Send your name to The Houser Country Estate at the address shown in my last hurried post, so much ongoing in North Carolina right now! We shall be mounting a class action personal injury lawsuit, autism discovered not to be caused by genes (God does not make a gene that says " I hope this kid eats mercury in his infant formulas and assorted more than 50 foods including fish oil and gets brain damaged, " everyone somehow mentally retarded by the ingestion of all of those foods on both FDA lists, the first one starting from 1999, updated in 2003, updated again in 2008 to PROVE NO FEDERAL RECALLS is the cause of autism, autism discovered to actually be Minamata's Disease, the symptoms of Minamata's Disease listed in her published book. I do not know why we are not having discussions about the known cause of autism, I posted the other day. If you do not send news of the book throughout the world, we will never be able to end the epidemic and even Australia using Gerber, our sister with The Vaccine Awareness Network, a former subscriber to The Minc List Reports before Mei Ling got into a government conspiracy, will suffer, the cure already discovered by Samariah Kaufman when she started to decrease the lead poisoning burden and gave cilantro to diffuse the dangerous vapors from the mercury in the brain. You can make a fresh cilantro tea - that's how Mei Ling cured her daughter within the first year of her diagnoses after attending classes at The Option Institute, now called " Autism Treatment Center, " her daughter preferring the music of Bing Crosby at age 15, reading on a 7th grade level as a sophomore and not speaking much since her vocal chords never properly flourished (a severe mistake in the diet while she was only 1 years old). You must eat the foods that complete the making of a human body and all of its organs, the proof being the known cause of homosexuality, a dehydrated, malnourished, couldn't grow to full size hypothalamus. Use The Splendour Diet for Autism which contains safe foods by the world's most studied author in Nutrigenomics (how to feed your genes to become another Raquel Welch, see Jack Challem's " Feed Your Genes, " too many people not knowing how to be or stay beautiful, the proof being Miss - from eating lard like The British to malform the face) It is a waste of money to study genetics as those are Enneagrams, See " Enneagrams " to know more, autism containing severe logical decisions in the midst of lack of enough vocabulary to own feelings. An example is the way you feel about the weather. If you can only say " It's cold " then you miss out on (a) the bite of the bitterness, ( the surge of energy as refreshing vitality of a new day's surprises in the elements around you or © what Buddhists call " Nirvana. " You must have enough vocabulary in you to own proper emotions, i.e. a woman felt she had Bipolar disorder because she was not knowing she was " emotionally overwhelmed " at a situation. The doctors said she is unable to relate to her problems but it is natural to be confused if you only have a 4th grade vocabulary and don't know how to describe what is happening to you, Spielberg, for example, able to relay proper emotional responses into the people because his vocabulary as an " author " is valid in life, too many people mentally retarded and the value of a lead poisoning hair analysis chart showing a return of a " norm " of only 2.2, making too many marriages fail in life since no sweetness is given each and everyday in compliments and appeals to please get to know me better, the breathing of lead poisoning and the eating of the radon gas molecule in gluten rather making the world less like Master Robin who frankly owns a better command of The English Language and can therefore FEEL more emotional attachment to himself, see? My example of " It is cold " is likely not worth anything. Perhaps a better example is " I love you but you're driving me crazy. "  People do not know how to use adjectives to surround themselves with an inner sense of understanding themselves or others, more on that maybe in a few days. Mei Ling is a Teacher of Ascended Mastery who used to do workshops to teach Applied Kinesiology. AK doctors are able to help you more than MDs, so walk in The Light of Christ and please continue to witness to the world so even Germany, even Australia and the select states wherein Minamata's Disease is happening can end when we all buy the Gerber off the shelves to protect the future of babies everywhere. We shall try to get new infant cereals which grow the center cortex (or behavioral center of the brain) from Sheikh Mohammed, Prince of Egypt, both of us working hard each day and alerting Fox News as to the two FDA Lists in the book, one of the easiest things to do to start enacting a cure, the cure available up to the age of 25 if you use The Splendour Diet for Autism contained in the book, Mercury in Baby Foods since it is a marvel of Nutritional Neurosciences and contains the perfect foods to grow the strongest brain. They are the world's most nutrient-densified " super foods " plus anti-viral fruits, oils and herbs to combat the measles virus in the brains. I'll try to write more in a few days, life getting so exciting~ ________________________________ From: Smyth <psm18665@...> Cc: Orange Apple <rodler14@...> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:16:33 AM Subject: Re: [ ] New having questions  In my opinion, it's never too late to help your kids get healthier. Age doesn't matter, it just means that the older the child is the more time their body has had to get messed up. My understanding is that there will be gains, it just takes longer for them to heal. You mention yeast is a problem. How did you treat it? We have big problems with sugar metabolism (indicated by observed behaviour and hair test) so a strict sugar free diet helped us with behaviour and also ensured we weren't providing a 'yeast-feast'!. Digestive enzymes also important in this regard. Has 13 months on gfcf helped at all? Maybe food allergy testing could shed some light on other foods that are aggravating your child's system. Hope you find the answers you seek soon, I haven't heard before that yeast feed on supplements so I can't offer any suggestions there. ---- Orange Apple <rodler14@...> wrote: > Hello! > My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed > yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we > found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly > > started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I >was > > not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with >these > > issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I > give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and > > irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. > > I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: > 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On > some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in > order to drag a child from autism. > > 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is > bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? > > 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to > know that she is ready for it? > 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? > > Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give > me some direction where to search. > Best regards, > r14 > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@...> > > Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:05:58 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!! > >  > Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would > suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and > oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may > > already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a >B > > complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E, >Zinc). > > Work on tolerance of all these. > > > I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements: > > Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil) > Biotin > Oil of Oregano > Olive Leaf Extract > Candidaise > Candex > > Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut > kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it > is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep > strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for > > the best results. > > Liz > > > > > > Hi! > > We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own. > > I have several questions though, if anyone can? > > First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days >on > > > & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in >the > > >shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw >Mom > > >w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab > & > > >the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories) > > >she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to >wait > > >til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate > > >just not to challenge test with she says). > > > > SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that >route. > > >Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD > >BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came >back > > >good. > > > > He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that >all > > >allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this?? > > We really need help here!!! > > I have also read about celantro chelating??? > > We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test > > >gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK??? > > How much ALA for 60lb child??? > > What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at > > >night). > > Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the > > >yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told > > >him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & >that > > >he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects >this > > >stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw >him > > >again. BUT we really do need help now... > > > > PLEASE!!! > > Thanks! > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Please do explain how gluten can be a radon gas molecule. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Shoemaker Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [ ] New having questions If you were mentally retarded and did not know to avoid the 731 foods all containing lead from Saudi Arabia's continued use of leaded gasoline blowing into the crops (and air) of America, be advised that you should not burden the immune system of the children and if you'll get Mei Ling's book it names the foods you can feed them (rather than racking your brains). It also descibes how Raun Kaufman was cured! Good luck to everyone, autism only in any country that Gerber sells its wheat cereals to, see " radon map " under Google, click on the states making baby cereals, i.e. South Dakota and Kansas, gluten discovered to be the radon gas molecule. My best friend is Mei Ling (also known as " Minc. " ) She's been in some kind of FDA government conspiracy since the 1990s, but is getting interviewed by The Washington Journal so the news should hit anyday. Meanwhile watch FOX News Glen Beck who is trying to charge The United States President, based on the 1999 FDA Food Analyte Matrix report (in the book, MERCURY IN BABY FOODS: WHAT THE FDA KEPT FROM THE WORLD OF AUTISM, www.Xlibris.com, not coming out on amazon.com for a month, sold wholesale at Xlibris). We are either going to charge President Obama with CHILD ENDANGERMENT or TREASON, so watch Fox News reporters try to make a list as good as hers to avoid all 731 foods with lead poisoning, Mei Ling having studied Nutritional Neurosciences and writing for The Nobel Peace Prize now. She shall not be undone by The FDA or any government agency taking bribes from China (see " CSPI and potassium bromate, " my love to all of you!) The FDA thought, " keep the hysteria down, America will just eat all of the lead poisoning in our crops and then it will be gone since we do not use leaded gasoline anymore, but did not study the wind currents, the cure to get a 6.2 on a hair analysis as yet to be released by Mei Ling on The Dr. Phil Show soon. Start off with all peeled fruits and vegetables like Raun Kaufman did, according to The Dr. Phil Show you own 25 years to grow a " pineal gland " or " reasoning center " in the human brain, so much hope for all! Autism is only in the very countries eating radon gas contamination in the gluten molecule and the children trying to grow a center cortex. Naturally, you need wheat, oats, barley or rice to grow any hemisphere of the brain to perfection so you can successfully use both hemispheres. Now, my mother used Gerber wheat cereal to grow my left hemisphere, which is why I cannot do math, but the spiritual side of me is strong and I stand by Minc Bumgarner, my closest neighbor who has helped me so much with my child. Send your name to The Houser Country Estate at the address shown in my last hurried post, so much ongoing in North Carolina right now! We shall be mounting a class action personal injury lawsuit, autism discovered not to be caused by genes (God does not make a gene that says " I hope this kid eats mercury in his infant formulas and assorted more than 50 foods including fish oil and gets brain damaged, " everyone somehow mentally retarded by the ingestion of all of those foods on both FDA lists, the first one starting from 1999, updated in 2003, updated again in 2008 to PROVE NO FEDERAL RECALLS is the cause of autism, autism discovered to actually be Minamata's Disease, the symptoms of Minamata's Disease listed in her published book. I do not know why we are not having discussions about the known cause of autism, I posted the other day. If you do not send news of the book throughout the world, we will never be able to end the epidemic and even Australia using Gerber, our sister with The Vaccine Awareness Network, a former subscriber to The Minc List Reports before Mei Ling got into a government conspiracy, will suffer, the cure already discovered by Samariah Kaufman when she started to decrease the lead poisoning burden and gave cilantro to diffuse the dangerous vapors from the mercury in the brain. You can make a fresh cilantro tea - that's how Mei Ling cured her daughter within the first year of her diagnoses after attending classes at The Option Institute, now called " Autism Treatment Center, " her daughter preferring the music of Bing Crosby at age 15, reading on a 7th grade level as a sophomore and not speaking much since her vocal chords never properly flourished (a severe mistake in the diet while she was only 1 years old). You must eat the foods that complete the making of a human body and all of its organs, the proof being the known cause of homosexuality, a dehydrated, malnourished, couldn't grow to full size hypothalamus. Use The Splendour Diet for Autism which contains safe foods by the world's most studied author in Nutrigenomics (how to feed your genes to become another Raquel Welch, see Jack Challem's " Feed Your Genes, " too many people not knowing how to be or stay beautiful, the proof being Miss - from eating lard like The British to malform the face) It is a waste of money to study genetics as those are Enneagrams, See " Enneagrams " to know more, autism containing severe logical decisions in the midst of lack of enough vocabulary to own feelings. An example is the way you feel about the weather. If you can only say " It's cold " then you miss out on (a) the bite of the bitterness, ( the surge of energy as refreshing vitality of a new day's surprises in the elements around you or © what Buddhists call " Nirvana. " You must have enough vocabulary in you to own proper emotions, i.e. a woman felt she had Bipolar disorder because she was not knowing she was " emotionally overwhelmed " at a situation. The doctors said she is unable to relate to her problems but it is natural to be confused if you only have a 4th grade vocabulary and don't know how to describe what is happening to you, Spielberg, for example, able to relay proper emotional responses into the people because his vocabulary as an " author " is valid in life, too many people mentally retarded and the value of a lead poisoning hair analysis chart showing a return of a " norm " of only 2.2, making too many marriages fail in life since no sweetness is given each and everyday in compliments and appeals to please get to know me better, the breathing of lead poisoning and the eating of the radon gas molecule in gluten rather making the world less like Master Robin who frankly owns a better command of The English Language and can therefore FEEL more emotional attachment to himself, see? My example of " It is cold " is likely not worth anything. Perhaps a better example is " I love you but you're driving me crazy. " People do not know how to use adjectives to surround themselves with an inner sense of understanding themselves or others, more on that maybe in a few days. Mei Ling is a Teacher of Ascended Mastery who used to do workshops to teach Applied Kinesiology. AK doctors are able to help you more than MDs, so walk in The Light of Christ and please continue to witness to the world so even Germany, even Australia and the select states wherein Minamata's Disease is happening can end when we all buy the Gerber off the shelves to protect the future of babies everywhere. We shall try to get new infant cereals which grow the center cortex (or behavioral center of the brain) from Sheikh Mohammed, Prince of Egypt, both of us working hard each day and alerting Fox News as to the two FDA Lists in the book, one of the easiest things to do to start enacting a cure, the cure available up to the age of 25 if you use The Splendour Diet for Autism contained in the book, Mercury in Baby Foods since it is a marvel of Nutritional Neurosciences and contains the perfect foods to grow the strongest brain. They are the world's most nutrient-densified " super foods " plus anti-viral fruits, oils and herbs to combat the measles virus in the brains. I'll try to write more in a few days, life getting so exciting~ ________________________________ From: Smyth <psm18665@... <mailto:psm18665%40bigpond.net.au> > <mailto: %40> Cc: Orange Apple <rodler14@... <mailto:rodler14%40> > Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 9:16:33 AM Subject: Re: [ ] New having questions In my opinion, it's never too late to help your kids get healthier. Age doesn't matter, it just means that the older the child is the more time their body has had to get messed up. My understanding is that there will be gains, it just takes longer for them to heal. You mention yeast is a problem. How did you treat it? We have big problems with sugar metabolism (indicated by observed behaviour and hair test) so a strict sugar free diet helped us with behaviour and also ensured we weren't providing a 'yeast-feast'!. Digestive enzymes also important in this regard. Has 13 months on gfcf helped at all? Maybe food allergy testing could shed some light on other foods that are aggravating your child's system. Hope you find the answers you seek soon, I haven't heard before that yeast feed on supplements so I can't offer any suggestions there. ---- Orange Apple <rodler14@... <mailto:rodler14%40> > wrote: > Hello! > My daughter is 12 years old. We started GFCF diet 13 months ago. She developed > yeasts immediately. She became very aggressive within first two months and we > found that it was due to bacteria in her gut. Bacteria grew because we stupidly > > started giving her prEbiotics and all vitaimins and supplements very fast, I >was > > not experienced in tracing reactions. So, we spent first year dealing with >these > > issues. She is now on very restrictive diet with one grain only - rice. When I > give her to try other GF grains, she constipates, or she becomes too hungry and > > irritable. If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. > > I now have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: > 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On > some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in > order to drag a child from autism. > > 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? Is > bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? > > 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? How I am going to > know that she is ready for it? > 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? > > Sorry if my questions are silly, but I am drawning in information, please give > me some direction where to search. > Best regards, > r14 > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@... <mailto:elizabethsoliday%40> > > <mailto: %40> > Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 6:05:58 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!! > > > Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would > suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and > oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may > > already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a >B > > complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E, >Zinc). > > Work on tolerance of all these. > > > I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements: > > Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil) > Biotin > Oil of Oregano > Olive Leaf Extract > Candidaise > Candex > > Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut > kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it > is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep > strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for > > the best results. > > Liz > > > > > > Hi! > > We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own. > > I have several questions though, if anyone can? > > First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days >on > > > & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in >the > > >shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw >Mom > > >w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab > & > > >the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories) > > >she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to >wait > > >til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate > > >just not to challenge test with she says). > > > > SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that >route. > > >Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD > >BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came >back > > >good. > > > > He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that >all > > >allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this?? > > We really need help here!!! > > I have also read about celantro chelating??? > > We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test > > >gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK??? > > How much ALA for 60lb child??? > > What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at > > >night). > > Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the > > >yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told > > >him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & >that > > >he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects >this > > >stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw >him > > >again. BUT we really do need help now... > > > > PLEASE!!! > > Thanks! > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 >>If I give her vegetables, her stool becomes smelly and colored those > vegetables. They actually come out not digested at all. For my son, this was caused by his body's inability to convert carotenes. > I now  have some questions, and I would appreciate if someone could answer: > 1. Is she too old to do biomedical treatment? Her ATEC score is about 70. On > some other forums, I read that one has to start before 4 or 5 years old in > order to drag a child from autism. No, not too old. I know several adults who are no longer autistic, and they started biomedical as adults. > 2. How I am going to know that her gut is ready to receive supplements? My son did not tolerate supplements until about round 50 of ALA chelation. >>Is > bacteria going to grow again as soon as I will start supplements? I had a problem with yeast overgrowth. Almost every supplement my son needed for recovery tended to increase yeast. I must have given biotin and GSE daily for over 4 years, probably longer. > 3. Where I can find information about anti-viral treatment? Here is my information http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#nids > 4. How I am going to know that we can start chelating safely? My son tolerated basically no foods or supplements. I started him on digestive enzymes, got his gut " reasonably under control " , then started with ALA. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 >>The biggest reason was that with low carbohydrates, I am affraid > to breake sugar balance and provoke diabetis. Try giving chromium. Chromium is what the body uses to regulate sugar. > With good fats - she only eats them from meat, plus olive oil which I give her > spoon or two a day. But, with olive oil, her stool becomes fatty. I am thinking > about introducing some lipasa enzymes, but not sure which brand is good. My son did not properly absorb fats until I gave him mito cocktail, he had mitochondrial dysfunction. Here is what he needed http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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