Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I am thinking how do you know the Chorella isn;t mobilisng more instead of mopping up? I did do a few rounds with Cilantro with first dose only and then normal round for DMSA/ALA to mop up from Cilantro. I'm convinced its a good mobiliser.............. Mandi So with that reassurance, I'm giving a fair amount of chlorella to mop up stuff before it gets a chance to redistribute. Thoughts, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 My theory/best guess on this is chlorella. When on CK2 or csb (can't remember which) was running lab tests for heavy metal content of ndf, metal-free, etc, I belatedly had E-Lyte Chlorella sent to her to be tested for mercury at the same lab, and it came back clean. So with that reassurance, I'm giving a fair amount of chlorella to mop up stuff before it gets a chance to redistribute. Thoughts, anyone? Abigail Re: L-Carnosine>Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:17:34 EDT>>How exactly would L carnosine do this?>>Sounds Bizzarre to me >>better to have good stores of Vitamin C & E and Selenium on board IMHO>>Mandi in Dorset>>>I have been advised to use some to prevent the redistribution of metals>after the three day stint on ALA.>>>_________________________________________________________________Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 > My theory (fingers crossed) is that this is where a high quality (i.e. no mercury content) chlorella has a big role. I had been in a spell of giving 3 chlorella before every meal when we did Cameron's last RBC Mins, and his mercury was rock bottom. Now maybe it had been redistributed to organs, but it seems unlikely to me that it could whizz in and out of the blood that quickly without turning up as elevated on the RBC. A homeopath had advised me to give chlorella 30 minutes before food so the gut would be lined and protected before the bile was released carrying mercury. I hope I've got the biology right. Just FWIW. Abigail Oh so sorry about the name (blush!) > don't fully understand redistribution. Once the DMPS has grabbed the > Mercury > (or other metal) why isn't it then simply excreted? Redistribution > requires > that the DMPS releases the metal. I have seen animal experiments that are > for > and against redistribution, so this is a very confusing subject. > > >>>>>Chelators grab and release metals all the time according to Andy >>>>> Cutler. > Its the steady blood supply that gives enough for it to be excreted by > increasing the chances of a grab. > > You get redistribtuion at the END of a regular round but hopefully this > is > minimised by having had a regualr supply during the round and a decrease > in > floating metals. > > I think Buttars thoery is to like shake up the dust, mobilise it, and > sweep > some out with the next dose. Thats why he says to keep going rather than > stop. There were some nasty reactions to stopping cold tukey when it frst > came > out but haven;t heard of any like that for ages now. > > Its a subject prone to many disagreements, you pays your moeny and takes > your pick > > Mandi in Dorset > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 > > I have been looking (and asking) for evidence for redistribution > during chelation for several months. In a telephone conversation > with Dr Heard he said redistribution was a theoretical concept. I agree in that redistribution is a concept we are applying to explain results that people have. Unfortunately, it is a concept that fits quite well. > I > recently posted a question on about evidence for > redistribution in the hope that Andy might contribute. I had one > response from a lady who said she was mercury poisoned, and she > implied that her experiences of different dosing schedules were > consistent with redistribution. There is a lot of this kind of anecdote around. If you are one who is looking for papers, your chances of being " satisfied " are pretty much zero== certainly low, at best. This discussion has been going on, on A-M, for YEARS. This is NOT AN EXAGGERATION. I'm not feeling motivated at the moment to write you a long grueling post with all my thoughts on this topic, and maybe that is (at least in part) because it is not clear to me if it would help you at all (and it is a lot to write). Also part is that it just gets harder for me personally to get really detailed on topics I've discussed a zilllllion times. And picking out one or two things to say seems kind of arbitrary. But I'll do it anyway LOL. Try looking at dmps backfire. Notice I assume you know where this site is. And you've read ALL the stories there, right? If not, consider it an assignment, and don't ask again till you've done it. (Oh, I'm obviously in a foul mood here. Esp if you consider I have NEVER read them all--- I've tried and I " can't " . Too sad for me.) Now, what I really wanted to point to is a statement from Heyl, the manufacturer of DMPS. It is not on the testimonials pages, it is quoted elsewhere on the site. The MANUFACTURER of DMPS says that some patients have an adverse response in which the appear to get more mercury poisoning. That is NOT a direct quote, but it is a fair representation of the viewpoint. Go find that. Also you can try looking up the polls on A-M about dosing schedules. I'm working on collecting more than this, but it honestly is MUCH more work that anyone in their right mind would imagine. (Okay, clearly in a foul mood here.) > My literature searching has now turned up a paper published in 2001 > that provides evidence for redistribution in rats. Rats exposed to > methyl mercury, when injected with DMPS showed an increase in > mercury in the brain. This was a temporary increase; subsequent > injections of DMPS then reduced the mercury present. The relevance > of animal experiments to humans of course is always imponderable! Try using onibasu to search the whole A-M archive. (If you don't know what I'm talking about or don't know how GO LEARN, right away.) Look for something like the researcher's name(s). See how many comments on this paper you can find. Most of them HAVE been discussed, including by Andy. > It would be nice if reactions/regressions when less frequent dosing > schedules are used were consistent, but since responses to chelation > are always going to be variable we will never have a clear answer to > this question. What won't there be a clear answer to? It is CLEAR that frequent dosing is MUCH safer than infrequent. There are MANY adult cases like the woman who wrote, for example. There are also a reasonable number of parents who have tried different timing schedules. good wishes, Moria > > > Grandfather of Luke > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 > I had one > response from a lady who said she was mercury poisoned, and she > implied that her experiences of different dosing schedules were > consistent with redistribution. I have just finished my 22 round of DMSA, with about half of those both DMSA and ALA. According to Andy's Hair Test book I am a fast metabolizer. I do 3 hour dosing round the clock. Any longer than that and I feel terrible. I can't specifically say this is redistribution but it seems logical to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Understand that redistribution of mercury is bad and causes side effects. Isn't mercury in the body already wreaking havoc? Why would redistribution be worse? Are these more difficult to chelate? Andy's book is packed with info (a lot of it is French to me) but I'm trying - hope someone can help me comprehend. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 kareenk wrote: > > Understand that redistribution of mercury is bad and causes side effects. > > Isn't mercury in the body already wreaking havoc? Why would > redistribution be worse? > Each time redistribution occurs, the mercury latches on to another receptor in enzymes, or lodges somewhere that something else uses to perform regular body functions. The more this happens, the more physiological function is disrupted. > Are these more difficult to chelate? > > Andy's book is packed with info (a lot of it is French to me) > You should get the English version available here: http://www.noamalgam.com > but I'm trying - hope someone can help me comprehend. > > Thanks! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 If you look at page 7 in the Andy Cutler-Mark Schauss interview in the files section here, it is expained that most of the body is not sensitive to the effects of mercury. Redistribution runs the risk of redistributing mercury into areas of the body where it may cause a lot of harm from areas where it may not have done. Kenny > > Understand that redistribution of mercury is bad and causes side effects. > > Isn't mercury in the body already wreaking havoc? Why would redistribution be worse? Are these more difficult to chelate? > > Andy's book is packed with info (a lot of it is French to me) but I'm trying - hope someone can help me comprehend. > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Merci beaucoup! > > > > Understand that redistribution of mercury is bad and causes side effects. > > > > Isn't mercury in the body already wreaking havoc? Why would > > redistribution be worse? > > > Each time redistribution occurs, the mercury latches on to another > receptor in enzymes, or lodges somewhere that something else uses to > perform regular body functions. The more this happens, the more > physiological function is disrupted. > > > > Are these more difficult to chelate? > > > > Andy's book is packed with info (a lot of it is French to me) > > > > You should get the English version available here: > http://www.noamalgam.com > > > > > > > but I'm trying - hope someone can help me comprehend. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thank you! Wasn't aware of this file > > > > Understand that redistribution of mercury is bad and causes side effects. > > > > Isn't mercury in the body already wreaking havoc? Why would redistribution be worse? Are these more difficult to chelate? > > > > Andy's book is packed with info (a lot of it is French to me) but I'm trying - hope someone can help me comprehend. > > > > Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thank you. I'm sure your son will get better soon with your care. All the best! Kareen > > I think that the mercury has setteled in the tissues. When you pull it out and not all of it eliminates through urine and stool, what is left has to resettle in the tissue again. It is like being poisoned again with poison that was already there. > > I am told there is always some redistribution when you finish a round. You try to minimize it by doing low frequent dosing. > > My son has peripheral neuropathy at the end of a round. We have already lowered our dose to 12mg ALA every three hours. He is 100ibs so I thought that was low, I guess we have to go lower. > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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