Trouble Sleeping

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In a message dated 11/20/01 4:42:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, seafarer52@... writes:

The only trouble with napping is I work all day and don't get home until 4:30. Just in time to start dinner.

Ann

Yes, I know I'm lucky in being able to quit my job. Not that I really had any choice.

Harper

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Sounds like fun. Kind of reminds you of the 4th of July fireworks with the oohs and aahs. Re: [ ] trouble sleeping In a message dated 11/18/01 7:50:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, seafarer52@... writes: Do any of you have trouble sleeping. I feel tired but am very restless during the night. I managed to get to see the meteor shower early this morning. Did anyone else get to see them. IT was really neat. Ann Lack of sleep is a common problem, perhaps due to the Prednisone. I sleep very, very heavily, however. Yes, I saw the meteor shower; we spent the weekend in a house near the Pacific and napped on the couch with an alarm set. At one a.m. my husband, daughter, and I walked down to the beach and spent two hours staring at the sky and shouting, "ooh, ooh, ooh" as the meteors flew by. At some point, looking for comfortable positions, we wound up inadvertently playing "hah-hah." That's a child's game where a group of kids lie with their heads on each others stomachs. One child says "hah." The next says "hah hah." Pretty soon everyone is laughing uncontrollably. It was a very good time. Harper

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The only trouble with napping is I work all day and don't get home until 4:30. Just in time to start dinner. Ann Re: [ ] Re: trouble sleeping In a message dated 11/19/01 4:44:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, bamrand@... writes: I don't know if this is the case for everyone, but I seem to be sleeping alot better since I started the Imuran. And even better since I went to 100mg. Unfortunately, I seem to get really tired around 4 or 5 and fight the sleepiness all evening. Not sure, if it's from the meds or the disease. Bethanne AIH 9/01Most reference books and many doctors recommend a nap or naps during the day. I find that helps a great deal. Harper

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In a message dated 11/19/01 7:49:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, seafarer52@... writes:

I don't like taking over the counter stuff. I don't want to do anymore damage than I already have. I know aspirin is out. It would be in your best interest to check with your dr. before you take over the counter stuff.

Ann, I don't generally like to take any kind of meds.

but, going without sleep.....is really hard to deal with......because of my disease...aside from....

having my kids to take care of....especially the 18 month old thats all........over the house!!!! :-))

Thanks for caring.....and your input.....

Bert. (AIH DX 9/01)

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Naps sound wonderful, but with a six month old that never sleeps and

a five year old, those are pretty much something of the past!! HAHA

Those of you in USA have a good holiday, those around the world have

a good week!!

Bethanne

AIH 9/01

> In a message dated 11/19/01 4:44:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> bamrand@y... writes:

>

>

> > I don't know if this is the case for everyone, but I

> > seem to be sleeping alot better since I started the

> > Imuran. And even better since I went to 100mg.

> > Unfortunately, I seem to get really tired around 4 or

> > 5 and fight the sleepiness all evening. Not sure, if

> > it's from the meds or the disease.

> >

> > Bethanne

> >

>

> Most reference books and many doctors recommend a nap or naps

during the day.

> I find that helps a great deal.

> Harper

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I hope I can leave my job in a few years. The kids should all be through with college by then. Ann Re: [ ] Re: trouble sleeping In a message dated 11/20/01 4:42:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, seafarer52@... writes: The only trouble with napping is I work all day and don't get home until 4:30. Just in time to start dinner. Ann Yes, I know I'm lucky in being able to quit my job. Not that I really had any choice. Harper

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Bert,

Check with the pharmacist to make sure the over the counter sleeping

aids are not toxic to the liver.

Joanna

AIH 08/01

> In a message dated 11/18/01 7:51:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> seafarer52@m... writes:

>

>

> > Do any of you have trouble sleeping. I feel tired but am very

restless

> > during the night. I managed to get to see the meteor shower

early this

> > morning. Did anyone else get to see them. IT was really neat.

> >

> > Ann

> >

> >

>

> YES!!!!!! me too Ann.......awful time sleeping.........

> because of......pain....cramps....insomia......!!!!!

> but at the same time extremely tired......

>

> Just makes me feel terrible......so I take over the counter

drugs......to

> help with the sleeping......not sure if I am supposed to

though........can't

> get into the darn doc...missed the meteor shower....I was

disappointed..

> :-((((

> Take care...

> with hugs....

> Bert. (AIH DX 9/01)

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Hi ,

What time do you take your Lex? My psydoc said to try it at

dinner time in order to get better sleep. I take mine around 7

pm as I am a night owl. I sleep great once I get to bed.

Crystal

I have been having a horrible time trying to sleep lately.Off and on

for weeks,now this week I can not fall asleep at all.I take ambian

but hate to use every night. I feel lately like a zombie...........

Anyone else experiencing sleep problems?

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Try Melatonin. Start with 1mg and work up to 5mg. Use the smallest amount

needed.

TJ

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From: Joe S <bindery@...>

Cc: <autism treatment >; TPA

<thyroid treatment >

Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:43:50 AM

Subject: [ ] Trouble sleeping

 

I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

most of the time. I find it hard when I have to work an 8 hour day,

especially a few days in a row. I think this makes things worse.

I'm seeing a doctor who suggested using an electric blanket, because the

right temperature helps one to fall asleep. She suggests a blanket with

at least 10 heat settings, and a preheat button.

I would appreciate any feedback on this or any other suggestions to

improve sleep.

Thanks

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Joe

I recently weaned myself off Clonazepam (I started taking it 3 years ago when my

son was diagnosed, l was severely depressed and anxious and nights were a

torture for me). I resolved I couldn't continue poisoning myself like that.

This are the things that have helped me the most to win back a healthy sleep

pattern:

1. Do not drink any caffeine containing beverages, even if it is early in the

morning. Go for herbal teas.

2. Take CoQ10 early in the morning, from 200 to 400 mgs u'll feel much better

even if u didn't sleep right.

3. Clear your organism from toxins drinking at least 1 l water /day.

4. Exercise whenever possible (helps turn your whole Neurotransmitter production

back on)

5. At noon (has worked best for me)take the following supplements: chelated

zinc, magnesium, iron, with 1/2 hour interval from one another.

6. I love Ecklonia Cava, helps you conceal sleep and feel relaxed through the

night (take 5-6 caps)

7. Prefer a frugal dinner, try not to eat after sunset.

8. Meditation: examine if there is some emotional cause for this problem,

recognize it, program yourself to not think about it during the night

Good luck

Isa

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[ ] Trouble sleeping

I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

most of the time. I find it hard when I have to work an 8 hour day,

especially a few days in a row. I think this makes things worse.

I'm seeing a doctor who suggested using an electric blanket, because the

right temperature helps one to fall asleep. She suggests a blanket with

at least 10 heat settings, and a preheat button.

I would appreciate any feedback on this or any other suggestions to

improve sleep.

Thanks

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On March 12, 2010 12:14:07 pm TJ Werth wrote:

> From:

> TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

> To:

>

> Date:

> Today 12:14:07 pm

>  

> Try Melatonin. Start with 1mg and work up to 5mg. Use the smallest

> amount needed. TJ

I've tried that. I helped some for a while. Now it doesn't do anything.

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have you had been checked for sleep apnoea? what have you tried so far? are

you on any medications? do you drink a lot of caffeine, esp later in the day?

chris

>

> I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

> takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

> twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

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hello have you tried melatonin..? you can easily get from US ordering on the

internet .

x

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I've tried melatonin. It helped for awhile. then it stopped. I used to

have trouble occassionally with sleep, but for the last 6 months it has

been steady. It gets worse when I am more stressed, but that is hard to

avoid, since I am exhausted and still have to work. I don't drink

anything with caffein and try to eat a good diet. I try to get to bed

at the same time; usually at 10:00 or 11:00. I haven't been checked for

sleep apnea. The only medication I am on is tryptan: taking 2250 - 2625

mg at night.

On March 12, 2010 02:03:36 pm wrote:

> have you had been checked for sleep apnoea? what have you tried so

> far? are you on any medications? do you drink a lot of caffeine,

> esp later in the day?

>

>

> chris

>

>

> > I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some

> > nights it takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at

> > least once or twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of

> > sleep.

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acupuncture, massage, melatonin and 5HTP were really helpful for me when I had

terrible insomnia. I also take CoQ10 in the AM and magnesium later in the

evening.

Meditation helped with everything. I couldn't do it on my own, though, I took a

seminar/class that met once a week for a few months and that really was helpful.

>

> I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

> takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

> twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

>

> I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

> most of the time. I find it hard when I have to work an 8 hour day,

> especially a few days in a row. I think this makes things worse.

>

> I'm seeing a doctor who suggested using an electric blanket, because the

> right temperature helps one to fall asleep. She suggests a blanket with

> at least 10 heat settings, and a preheat button.

>

> I would appreciate any feedback on this or any other suggestions to

> improve sleep.

>

> Thanks

>

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Are you getting enough exercise? What is your sleep environment like (no TV,

reasonably dark and quiet)? Do you try to go to bed and wake up at

approximately the same time each day/night? No caffeine after 3 pm?

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I have been using timed release melatonin (1-3mg) and Solgar valerian root (one

tablet), both from Iherb.com alternating.

Carbs can help you to fall asleep - but not to stay asleep.

To stay asleep protein before bed helps, as does limiting carbs and fluids after

6pm. And limit caffeine. I am down to one cup of tea in the morning then decaf

drinks the rest of the day.

Since starting the supplements I am sleeping much better. We all have trouble

sleeping with this illness and we all could benefit from sleep aids.

I also wear a mask and have some awesome 'Slient Ear' earplugs.

CJ

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what is tryptan and what's it for? have you checked the side effects of that?

Chris

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Hello

Joe

Have you

considered trying a course of Melatonin? I used this with great success during

a time I too was having unexplained sleep problems. According to Dr

Hertoghe, one of the signs of melatonin deficiency is a high blood pressure.

Other signs are nervous behaviour, anxious eyes, tense muscles, and slow or

faint heartbeat. Agitation, restless legs syndrome at night, tense muscles

(especially at night), premature aging in adults, precocious puberty in

children, fatigue, abdominal pain, intestinal spasms (hyperactivity).

Mental

signs are poor sleep - a superficial anxious, agitated sleep with a lot of

anxious thinking: Easily waking up during the night: Difficulties to fall

asleep and fall back asleep: poor dreaming. Mood - anxiety, lack of

serenity, inner peace of mind, especially at night, depression, especially

seasonal affective disorder; excessive emotionality, irritability.

The

diseases that develop easier in persons with melatonin deficiency are -

jet lag, high blood pressure (arterial hypertension), heart disease (ischaemic

coronary disease, heart arrhythmias), obesity, diabetes, osteoporosis, colitis,

infections (due to a lower immunity), breast and prostate cancer, Alzheimer's

disease, Parkinson's disease.

Contraindications

to Melatonin treatment:

Dr Hertoghe

says " No absolute contraindications exists to our knowledge to melatonin

treatment

Relative

contraindications:

Arthritis

Autoimmune diseases

Pregnancy.

As melatonin can

counter cortisol activity, it is wise to be prudent with melatonin and diseases

where needs in cortisol are greater. If no cortisol or glucocorticoid treatment

is given with these diseases, avoiding melatonin altogether may sometimes be

the safer solution. Doses higher than 10 mgs per day may inhibit the ovaries so

that the use of high doses of melatonin in pregnancy is contra-indicated.

Melatonin induces

sleep. It shortens the time to fall asleep, but has little to no action on the

deep sleep and rapid eye movement phases. It does induce at night a profound

relaxation of muscles and nerves, which makes the sleep better. Melatonin acts

as an anti-spasmodic for the intestinal tract, relaxing it when it is

contracted and tense. It protects against free radicals by its antioxidant

property, possibly slowing down the aging process and the appearance of various

age-related diseases.

Melatonin helps in

setting the pace for circadian rhythms such as the sleep-wake, temperature and

hormone cycles. Its action on circadian rhythms is less powerful than that of

sunlight and activity, but nevertheless significant enough to explain the

beneficial effects of melatonin supplements against jet lag. Melatonin can

increase the serum levels of growth hormone and the active thyroid hormone T3.

Furthermore, it calms down excessive cortisol activity. Last, but not least,

melatonin may help pregnancy by boosting female hormone production, a

paradoxical effect, as it tends to suppress female hormone production in the

non-pregnant state.

The usual dose is 3

mgs, which you take about half an hour before going to bed. I only needed 1

1/2mgs myself and I can honestly report that the effect on my sleep and waking

was quite dramatic. I slept through the night and woke very refreshed. I did

experience a transitory headache on waking occasionally, but it soon disappeared.

You MUST however ensure that there is no light, you need complete darkness, so

thick curtains are essential.

You can buy Melatonin

in the UK very cheaply through http://www.biovea.net/(S(e0inyq55ojeg4kmixgllftyy))/category_dispatch.aspx?CID=7

Hope this helps

Luv - Sheila

I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

most of the time. I find it hard when I have to work an 8 hour day,

especially a few days in a row. I think this makes things worse.

I'm seeing a doctor who suggested using an electric blanket, because the

right temperature helps one to fall asleep. She suggests a blanket with

at least 10 heat settings, and a preheat button.

I would appreciate any feedback on this or any other suggestions to

improve sleep.

Thanks

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I was having lunch with my brother-in-law yesterday and he told

me he too had been having problems in getting to sleep. He then read about deep

breathing once in bed and he said he takes in quite a few really deep breaths,

holds them for a while, and lets his breath out slowly. He does this between 8

and 10 times and has found that this has been tremendously helpful. There is

probably something in Yoga that explains this, but it definitely sounds worthy

of a trial.

Luv - Sheila

I have been using timed release melatonin

(1-3mg) and Solgar valerian root (one tablet), both from Iherb.com alternating.

Carbs can help you to fall asleep - but not to stay asleep.

To stay asleep protein before bed helps, as does limiting carbs and fluids

after 6pm. And limit caffeine. I am down to one cup of tea in the morning then

decaf drinks the rest of the day.

Since starting the supplements I am sleeping much better. We all have trouble

sleeping with this illness and we all could benefit from sleep aids.

I also wear a mask and have some awesome 'Slient Ear' earplugs.

CJ

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Hello

I use the over the counter supplement 5 HTP, (available in most health stores)

From: Jill <mcginn.jill@...>Subject: Re: Trouble sleepingthyroid treatment Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 21:17

hello have you tried melatonin..? you can easily get from US ordering on the internet .x

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JOE

What is your position with adrenals and thyroid? If the thyroid hormones are

low then the adrenals compensate (sometimes over compensate) by putting out

adrenalin. So you can't sleep. And eventually they get exhausted so you feel

awful all the time...

Have you had adrenals tested? Have you any thyroid test results?

The doctor sounds a bit stupid. What tests has she suggested?

.

> I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

>

> I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

> most of the time.

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socks! If I wear socks to bed I am so much warmer. My brother used to sleep

with a hat (he has major insomnia). Silk products are great, too. Lightweight,

but great for heat retention. Nothing worse than heavy covers!

> >

> > I have been struggling with sleep for a number of months. Some nights it

> > takes me a long time to fall asleep. I usually wake up at least once or

> > twice during the night. I get about 5 or 6 hours of sleep.

> >

> > I have been suffering from fatigue for the last 20 years. I exhausted

> > most of the time. I find it hard when I have to work an 8 hour day,

> > especially a few days in a row. I think this makes things worse.

> >

> > I'm seeing a doctor who suggested using an electric blanket, because the

> > right temperature helps one to fall asleep. She suggests a blanket with

> > at least 10 heat settings, and a preheat button.

> >

> > I would appreciate any feedback on this or any other suggestions to

> > improve sleep.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

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Socks did absolutely nothing for me. I think if you have poor circulation, they

just make it worse. But covering the head -- absolutely great idea. As I have

mentioned before, I currently sleep on the floor with no bedding of any kind.

It went through many stages of progression, starting with sleeping on the floor

with heavy blankets and heavy sleep clothes and getting less and less as I got

healthier. At one point, I found that putting a washcloth on the topmost part

of my head was the only covering I needed to make the difference between " warm

enough to sleep " and " too cold to sleep " . As I understand it, of the heat you

give off, you lose about 50% of it through your head.

Silk and cotton are good. If you have bedding that is part polyester or other

synthetic material, that can be part of the problem. It also took me years and

years to realize that I didn't itch in reaction to wool because of the texture

but because I'm allergic. It didn't cause hives or anything real obvious, so,

for the longest time, I just thought I didn't like the texture.

Michele

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http://www.solanorail.com

>

> socks! If I wear socks to bed I am so much warmer. My brother used to sleep

with a hat (he has major insomnia). Silk products are great, too. Lightweight,

but great for heat retention. Nothing worse than heavy covers!

>

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5-htp, melatonin etc can be very helpful, but be careful if you are an over

methylator as they make some people worse

Chris