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I don't know the laws of Connecticut.  I know that in Maine the laws are clear

about the schooling and the amount of hours that are required for students to be

in school.  I am sorry that you have to go through this.  I don't think it

would be legal there but then again who am I to say.  The teachers should have

known that your son would react poorly to the situation.  I think it is more

their fault than his.  My son would have reacted the same way.  He has hit

kids on the head who are crying and screaming near him.  I am sure he would

also do it to adults if they were acting that way.  It is not appropriate for

any principal to yell at the kids.  What does that do to help the situation?

 I can never understand why they would think that would help or change

anything.  I have found that with my children, I have three teenagers, that if

I show strong emotion they are more inclined to to the behavior again.

 FWIWMargaret

From: stacylynncollins@... <stacylynncollins@...>

Subject: [ ] OT - help needed with school suspension and return

Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:04 PM

 

I don't know where else to turn to ask this question so I hope someone can

help...

My son was suspended from school for 10 days. Long story but after a fire drill

(everyone knows has overstimulating that can be), the principal of the school

was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or when people

are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed the principal.

I was very angry they even had him in this environment when they know he has

issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days per the

administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little embarrassed. When

he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school where the incident

occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an alternate site which

would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we have requested out of

district placement, however, it will not be in place until some time after he

returns from the suspension. Are they legally within their right to not allow

him to return to his original

programming until we find an out of district school? Any help would be greatly

appreciated! !!!

Thanks.

- in Connecticut

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I know here in California they are within their rights. I think if it was

just another kid it wouldn't have been a big deal, but since it was the

Principal it is. I am sorry this happened. My Daughter also cannot handle

others being mad, sad, or crying, but she runs away or drops to the ground

covering her ears.

They are getting very strict these days when it comes to any kind of hitting

and pushing. They consider it a sign of violence and often they will have a

zero tolerance policy in place.

Maybe it will be a blessing in the end. Maybe something will come of all of

this and he will get a better placing for him where they will understand and

be caring and loving.

Trish

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> I don't know where else to turn to ask this question so I hope someone can

> help...

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> My son was suspended from school for 10 days. Long story but after a fire

> drill (everyone knows has overstimulating that can be), the principal of the

> school was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or

> when people are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed

> the principal. I was very angry they even had him in this environment when

> they know he has issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days

> per the administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little

> embarrassed. When he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school

> where the incident occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an

> alternate site which would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we

> have requested out of district placement, however, it will not be in place

> until some time after he returns from the suspension. Are they legally

> within their right to not allow him to return to his original programming

> until we find an out of district school? Any help would be greatly

> appreciated!!!!

>

> Thanks.

> - in Connecticut

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I knew this would probably happen with my child, or something like it. So when

he started kindergarten we did this:

http://www.k12.com/

Best thing we've ever done.

in PA

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help...

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> My son was suspended from school for 10 days. Long story but after a fire

drill (everyone knows has overstimulating that can be), the principal of the

school was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or when

people are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed the

principal. I was very angry they even had him in this environment when they

know he has issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days per the

administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little embarrassed. When

he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school where the incident

occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an alternate site which

would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we have requested out of

district placement, however, it will not be in place until some time after he

returns from the suspension. Are they legally within their right to not allow

him to return to his original programming until we find an out of district

school? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

>

> Thanks.

> - in Connecticut

>

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I'm sorry it's awful how some principals react. If they would just back off &

understand he his autism and the noise issues, maybe the whole thing could have

been avoided.

You need to read your state education sites laws in special ed. They can

suspend, but the placement issue is a question.  Try this group. I think it's

based in the east coast. They might know advocates & can give better advice. I

believe they need a manifestation hearing & you need to help him & your district

understand his behavior is due to his disability. 

IEP_guide/

This is from our state's Mo Parents Training Act Advocacy site.

http://ptimpact.org/eSource/eSource.aspx   Scroll to discipline, but again you

have to find your state's laws.  There are sample letters.

Check out http://www.copaa.net/index.html Council of Parents & Attorney's &

Advocates.

Kathy

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Does he have a diagnosis and/or an IEP? I'm in CT also. Have you contacted

Asconn or the CT advocacy group for their help? Here's their websites...

http://www.cpacinc.org/

http://www.autismsocietyofct.org/advocacy.htm

Contact: 888-453-4975 or e-mail asconn@...

Asconn has always helped me with situations/questions with my son's school so

you may want to call them and ask whether or not this is legal and what you can

do about it...good luck-this does not sound right so I hope you can get to the

bottom of this quickly.

~

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school was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or when

people are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed the

principal. I was very angry they even had him in this environment when they

know he has issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days per the

administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little embarrassed. When

he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school where the incident

occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an alternate site which

would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we have requested out of

district placement, however, it will not be in place until some time after he

returns from the suspension. Are they legally within their right to not allow

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> My son was suspended from school for 10 days. Long story but after a fire

drill (everyone knows has overstimulating that can be), the principal of the

school was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or when

people are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed the

principal. I was very angry they even had him in this environment when they

know he has issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days per the

administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little embarrassed. When

he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school where the incident

occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an alternate site which

would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we have requested out of

district placement, however, it will not be in place until some time after he

returns from the suspension.

The main question to ask, is how progress toward his goals and objectives will

be implemented during this time. And I would also request a behavior assessment

and have a BIP written into his IEP.

If this behavior was the " manifestation of his disability " , it is not legal to

be suspended because of it. What is required, is a BIP.

Dana

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Thanks to everyone who provided advice. I have much to tackle tomorrow. I am

going to take a deep breath and dive right in.

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school was scolding the 8th graders and my son who doesn't like crying or when

people are mad (specifically using loud tone or anger in voice) pushed the

principal. I was very angry they even had him in this environment when they

know he has issues with tone. Nonetheless he is suspended for 10 days per the

administration. The principal is ok - perhaps just a little embarrassed. When

he returns, he is not allowed to return to the school where the incident

occurred. The school is offering him to be tutored at an alternate site which

would be only 4 days a week from 9-noon. Meanwhile, we have requested out of

district placement, however, it will not be in place until some time after he

returns from the suspension. Are they legally within their right to not allow

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