vision therapy

[Guest guest]

What a wonderful success story! Thanks for sharing.

I have also set a goal for myself to correct my vision back to normal (without

surgery) and would be interested to know the specifics of the exercises and

other things you did in your

" vision therapy. "

Thanks you so much,

Pamela

Moria Merriweather wrote:

> About

> 7 years ago I went through " vision therapy " to correct

> problems with eye teaming, focus, and position of rest.

> This was considered successful. At that time, my distance

> vision also improved by about 1/4 to 1/3. (I went through

> about 3 or 4 perscriptions for contacts in a year, with

> each set of contacts progressively weaker. My vision has

> been fairly stable since that time.)

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

um.... " normal " in what way?? Vision therapy helped my

eye teaming and focusing flexibility and visual processing

in many ways. It also (as a side effect) improved my

distance vision (visual acuity) by about 1/4 or 1/3. BUT,

that was far from 20/20 in my case. My vision therapist

and eye doc said I would not be able to ever get to 20/20

uncorrected by using the exercises. I did continue them

for a while, but eventually let them go. It is a lot of

work.

Mercury detox has done more for my vision than all the

exercises did. Well, I guess I can't be sure that is

true on EVERY level. Lemme try again: 3-D vision and

distance vision have been improved more quickly by

mercury detox, in my case.

I am NOT predicting for you, not implying any suggestion,

just wanted to make sure my info is clear (about me).

Not all vision problems are caused by merc tonxicity,

to be sure. But mine sure seem to be!

To find out about vision therapy, look for a behavioral

optomotrist. If you really can't find one, write me

(off list please) and I can give you the number for my

eye doc, who can refer you.

There are many other methods. Bates is kinda " the original " ,

but I think his methods are not all considered great anymore.

Some of his stuff I think is still used. I have't

investigated this too far.

Edu-K (educational kinesiology) is a movement program that

is used to improve concentration, learning, and vision

processing. (The fact that it is a movement program

doesn't seem weird to me: vision therapy involves a number

of " movement " type exercises, some are moving and reading

a chart on the wall at the same time, etc.)

There are others. There are books too about different methods.

I haven't read them all.

Whoops: getting back to your question: I worked with a

vision therapist once a week. He gave me assignments to

do every day during that week. It was a very individualized

program, with weekly feedback and so forth. He had me

do different things each week in the hour I was there, too.

There is no way I can tell you simple directions for this.

A few of the (many) things I did included:

the " 3 beads " execercise, a LOT of convergence and divergence

training, lots of bilateral movement, and daily eye

patching (alternating eyes). Also palming and sunning...

and other stuff.....Some of this you can find in books.

However a behavioral optomitrist will be able to test your

vision and pick out what applies in your case.

Was this all expensive? yes. Was it time-consuming? yes

regards,

Moria

Message: 4

Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:36:59 -0600

From: Pamela <pamelab@...>

Subject: Re: Vision therapy

What a wonderful success story! Thanks for sharing.

I have also set a goal for myself to correct my vision back to normal

(without surgery) and would be interested to know the specifics of the

exercises and other things you did in your

" vision therapy. "

Thanks you so much,

Pamela

[Guest guest]

<< Is anyone familiar with vision therapy? >>

You might be interested in the book Self-Healing: My life and vision, by Meir

Schneider. He was born blind and cured himself of blindness. He works

full-time

with people with all kinds of crippling diseases including muscular dystrophy.

You can read about this book, his handbook on self-healing and his video for

working on one's own sight problems on Amazon.com. dorothy

[Guest guest]

vision therapy

> Is anyone familiar with vision therapy? The more comprehensive books run

$20 to $50. One of them even includes a 90 minute video. Thanks.

I had great success with vision therapy when I was doing it. Unfortunately,

spending too much time at the computer and not enough time doing the eye

exercises made my vision regress.

However, even something as simple as " palming " (sitting quietly with the

palms over closed eyes) can be extremely healing for stressed eyes, and

simply the energy from the hands often has a restorative effect.

But doing vision therapy is certainly worth a try, I feel.

Nina

[Guest guest]

Where do you get the videos? do you have a number on the tapes?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

All I know is what I found at Amazon. There's a book & video package called

" Improve Your Eyesight: Vision Therapy Eye Exercises--Updates Bates Method " by

Bellevue for $44.95. It's a book and 90 minute video, plus eye chart.

The other, which was the one most highly recommended by readers, is " Relearning

to See: Improve Your Eyesight Naturally " by Quackenbush. This is a

book, no video.

Dorothy recommended a book called " Self-Healing: My Lilfe & Vision " by Meir

Schneider. (Thank you, Dorothy). This was available at the library and I

reserved it. Amazon also has it--you can get it used for $4. He also has a

cassette called " Meir Schneider's Miracle Eyesight Method " and a video called

" Yoga for Your Eyes " for $29.95. Both are at Amazon.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Pinhole glasses. They take the blur center in the defective eye & defract

it causing normal vision. The eye then gets stronger. Use as normal

glasses except for driving. Reading & computer work recommended. I would

recommned these totally. We made some small ones (ordered the lg ones &

had them cut to fit her frames) for my special needs daughter to help w/

the eyes not be crossed.

I can't remember where online I bought them but the ones I bought we lg

plastic frames & I couldn't even keep them on my face. So I suggest you

buy the cheapest & then take them & have them cut to fit a frame you can

wear.

<<<>>> This is the eye wash post I sent earlier:

This is from Stanley Burrough's book: " Healing for the Age of

Enlightenment " It is out-of-print. I can't find a copyright date but I do

know he does have at least one other book though I don't know the title.

I really like his book as he seems to have alot of bases covered

including Hatha Yoga, color therapy, frequency, Vita-Flex, & also the

Lemonaid Diet.

QUOTE:

" Many cases of glaucoma, cataracts, spots, films, & growths of various

kinds have completly disappeared. Many people have overcome the need for

glasses. Additional exersizes are recommended.

Eye drops are most effective when coupled w/ a change of diet, reflex

work (Vita-Flex-like Reflexology) & color therapy:

5 parts distilled water

2 parts best grade honey

1 part apple cider vinegar (Sterling is the brand he recommends)

Mix together & store in a dark bottle. No refrigeration needed. If eyes

are in good condition, keep them that way with eye drop use. No harm

ever. It has strong, smarting effect for a moment, then the eyes feel

clear & very good after each use. These drops have proven to be superior

to most commercial drops. "

<<<>>>

Also accupressure all around the eye will be effective. Look for chinese

points online.

Using a universal head halter, actually called a cervial traction set

(fits over the door)

will definately affect the eyes a couple of prescriptions.

I would change the pulley/weighted bag & buy equal lengths of chain & 4

" S " hooks & then use your bent knees to gently stretch the neck. That way

you don't have to mess w/ the water/pounds ratio & you are in total

control of the pressure. You ONLY GO DOWN till you feel the slight

pull/pressure & then you stop & hold for as long as comfortable & then

stand up. It takes GENTLE & SLOW stretches.

I too have the Self Healing book but cannot use the techniques on my dd

b/c she is delayed & only 5 at that. Magnetic health might be helpful of

acupressure points. I know massaging the temples, right beside the

outside of the eye, will cause clearer vision & stimulate eye moisture.

In Chinese medicine these organs are connected to the eyes: stomach,

kidneys, liver & gall bladder. Most commonly the stomach as the muscles

for the eyes run right down the back of the neck. So neck rolls & neck

hugs (shrug your shoulders up as high as you can to your neck & hold a

few seconds) are good too.

That's all folks!

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((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14

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[Guest guest]

> Is anyone familiar with vision therapy? I mentioned to my D.C. that

I was considering making an appointment to have my eyes checked. I

wear reading glasses and am gradually needing them to be stronger and

stronger over time. He suggested that I do some reading instead on

the Bates method. I've been perusing books at Amazon and have found

two that look promising, with many 5 star reviews from readers. All

the books talk about something called " vision therapy " which

apparently involves retraining the eyes, and most of them say they are

not about " eye exercises. "

>

> Is anyone familiar with any of this stuff, or had any experience

with it? The more comprehensive books run $20 to $50. One of them

even includes a 90 minute video. Thanks.

>

> Peggy

Hi Peggy,

I did " vision therapy " for about 9 months, about 8 years ago.

I did this through a " behavioral optomotrist " (sp?) which is,

I think, what you should look for. They used a combination

of techniques--- I think a few may have been bates-like, but

not all. I went in for 1 hour a week, and then did various

exercises at home for about an hour a day! All of this way

a lot of work, and resulted in a number of changes in my

vision. It was " successful " as far as the docs were

concerned.

I'll add that this year (about 8 years later) I am doing

mercury detoxification. After the first couple of " rounds "

of mercury chelation my vision SPONTANEOUSLY started changing

pretty radically. (How objects move relative to each other

now looks a whole lot different to me, all the time.) This

is like an effect I'd seen off and on -- to a MUCH lesser

degree -- during vision therapy. I don't know if mercury

chelation would have, by itself, done ALL the stuff that

vision therapy did, but in this particular area it was MUCH

more effective. I have (as a result) been very interested

in info on mercury poisoning and vision, and have learned

that MANY adults have had positive changes to vision after

amalgam removal (and sometimes mercury chelation).

I personally would recommend evaluating

whether you are mercury toxic before doing vision therapy.

Then do mercury detox. THEN do the vision therapy afterward

if needed.

Here are some links about mercury poisoning & detox:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/Mercury-Autism%20FA

Q

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/ANDY_INDEX

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/files/LOVE_LETTERS

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adult-metal-chelation

BTW, I rarely read this list anymore, so if you have follow up

questions, you might do better to write me privately. (I'd be

glad to answer your questions.)

Moria

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I have a client in Macon that has someone in her area for vision issues. I have seen the reports from this particular provider and it looks good. Email me privately and I will give you the providers name and number.

Betsybrandoreh <brando88@...> wrote:

Does anyone have any experience with vision therapy? I was reading about it and my son sounds like a perfect example of someone who could benefit from it. There are no providers in my area that do vision therapy, the closest being about 100 miles away--which I don't mind. I have two providers in mind but I don't know anything about either one, even if they take insurance/medicaid. Can anyone tell me if they've had any experience with Dr. L. Cook in Marietta or Dr. H. Kimmich from Watkinsville? I would appreciate any info on either one of these docs. Thanks, Debbie, Mom to , 5, HFA, ADHD

Betsy Loiacono

Educational Advocate

PLSP IV

"In matters of style, swim with the current.

In matters of principle, stand like a rock."

[Guest guest]

We took 1 of our 2 ASD children to Dr. Kimberley Linert in Cumming for

vision therapy. Her office is the Incredible Vision Center 678-455-

7506. We went for convergence insufficiency but she does many other

things also. We went 2x a week for 12 weeks and the problem is gone.

We went for a 1 year check up & there was no regression - only more

progress.

[Guest guest]

How old was your child who went through the therapy? My son just

turned 6, but he has a lot of sensory issues around his head and esp.

his eyes. It will take some work to get him to coorperate, but I

think with the right provider (patience and understanding :>) ) that

he would be able to do it.

Thanks,

Debbie

> We took 1 of our 2 ASD children to Dr. Kimberley Linert in Cumming

for

> vision therapy. Her office is the Incredible Vision Center 678-455-

> 7506. We went for convergence insufficiency but she does many other

> things also. We went 2x a week for 12 weeks and the problem is

gone.

> We went for a 1 year check up & there was no regression - only more

> progress.

[Guest guest]

Angie,

Is this the doc you go to?

Ash

[Guest guest]

I'm about to start with vision therapy at the Roswell Eye

Clinic. We saw Dattolo because she was in network with our insurance

company. I hear Dr. Berger is very good as well -- she's with the

same group. I can't remember the name of the vision therapist, but

Dattolo said she's been giving therapy for 30 years and she won vision

therapist of the year last year. The website is

www.roswelleyeclinic.com

[Guest guest]

Dr. Berger has seen Bren twice (initial screening and follow up tests a

year later). She's great. The vision therapist there that works with

Bren is Barbara. I forget her last name (but there are only two vision

therapists there I think so Barbara should get you close enough).

We see Barbara about 1/month and she gives us stuff to work on at home.

She says she usually does visits 2/month, but since it's an hour drive

for us one way and she knows we've got a pretty comprehensive home

program we just do 1/month.

l1collier wrote:

> I'm about to start with vision therapy at the Roswell Eye

> Clinic. We saw Dattolo because she was in network with our insurance

> company. I hear Dr. Berger is very good as well -- she's with the

> same group. I can't remember the name of the vision therapist, but

> Dattolo said she's been giving therapy for 30 years and she won vision

> therapist of the year last year. The website is

> www.roswelleyeclinic.com

--

Mike Fields lm_fields@...

" Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you

everywhere. " - Albert Einstein

[Guest guest]

This article is 10 years old. Since then, Dr. Kaplan has written a

book called " Seeing with New Eyes. " You can order it from DDR by

going to www.devdelay.org We also published a short article by him

called " The fastest way to change behavior is through a lense. " I

will be happy to send it to anyone interested.

There is also an article about Kaplan in a recent ARI newsletter.

Many children are benefiting from both lenses/prisms and vision

therapy activities.

Patty Lemer

DDR Executive Director

[Guest guest]

My son was in fourth grade when he was diagnosed with this problem and we ended

up going through the therapy for quite a while. We had exercises that he had to

do at home and then we met with the therapists twice a week. I have all the

equipment still and do remember one thing they told us to do with him. Have

youir child stand at the door and look off into the distance then stare at a

spot on the door. It is supposed to train them to come back together. Another

thing you can do is get a long string and put 3 balls/beads of a different color

on it, we had green/yellow/red, then you have them look at the farthest one away

for a few seconds, the next one closer, and so forth. You would start out at a

distance that they can do, don't remember how far away but can go measure the

string. The other thing with this is that you have them hold one end of the

string at their noses and then focus on the different balls one at a time. If

you want more information I can research it

again and see what I can find to further help you.

Cassie

osdbmom <osdbmom@...> wrote:

I know in our area there is an office purported to do the vision

therapy--very, very expensive and no ins covers it.

However, children who have a sensory processing disorder, as savannah

does, often also have some eye teaming problem--the eyes do not work

well together. Its plain to be seen--just asking her to follow a pen

with her eyes, they cannot cross when it comes close to her nose. then

they dont come apart properly--converging and diverging. Our ins

covers her eye teaming work thru an occupational therapist, along with

the rest of her sensory processing problems. There wouldnt be anything

in it for the OT to say she has something she hasnt got--since she is

already going for SPD work. and I have done the same thing at home

with her, and can plainly see her eyes arent working together.

So I think some people, like the one in our area, are a BIG RIP=--but

there are also legitimate people who work on it.

valarie

www.marykay.com/cassieredinger

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

We don't have an appointment until the end of October. Any feedback

(on or offlist) would be really helpful.

How/ what sort of tests/assessment did he do? Was the clinic child

friendly etc.,

Thanks,

Jane

chelseabill4 wrote:

Hi,

We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going

this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing

and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that

may help this problem.

Thanks for any feedback.

Sharon x

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

We don't have an appointment until the end of October. Any feedback

(on or offlist) would be really helpful.

How/ what sort of tests/assessment did he do? Was the clinic child

friendly etc.,

Thanks,

Jane

chelseabill4 wrote:

Hi,

We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going

this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing

and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that

may help this problem.

Thanks for any feedback.

Sharon x

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have been treating with for a year now and we had some great improvements in focus.

is very nice, very patient. The hardest thing is to make the child do what he/she is told but has some techniques.My son's eyes were not working together, so he could track. We were given computer exercises. Again, it is quite hard to make your child do it, it can be very draining for everyone. We manage to go through it, having breaks every now and then. My son eyes are now tracking much better as his eyes are working together. We can see the difference in the ability to read. He could hardly read anything when we started and now he is age appropriate. He can focus on his work much better. We are very pleased. We are having another break as it is VERY HARD do carry on doing it. However, we plan to go back to it soon.

This was our experience.

Vilma

In a message dated 09/26/09 14:28:19 GMT Daylight Time, jane_hogan@... writes:

Hi Sharon,We don't have an appointment until the end of October. Any feedback (on or offlist) would be really helpful.How/ what sort of tests/assessment did he do? Was the clinic child friendly etc.,Thanks,Janechelseabill4 wrote:

Hi,We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on. He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that may help this problem.Thanks for any feedback.Sharon x

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have been treating with for a year now and we had some great improvements in focus.

is very nice, very patient. The hardest thing is to make the child do what he/she is told but has some techniques.My son's eyes were not working together, so he could track. We were given computer exercises. Again, it is quite hard to make your child do it, it can be very draining for everyone. We manage to go through it, having breaks every now and then. My son eyes are now tracking much better as his eyes are working together. We can see the difference in the ability to read. He could hardly read anything when we started and now he is age appropriate. He can focus on his work much better. We are very pleased. We are having another break as it is VERY HARD do carry on doing it. However, we plan to go back to it soon.

This was our experience.

Vilma

In a message dated 09/26/09 14:28:19 GMT Daylight Time, jane_hogan@... writes:

Hi Sharon,We don't have an appointment until the end of October. Any feedback (on or offlist) would be really helpful.How/ what sort of tests/assessment did he do? Was the clinic child friendly etc.,Thanks,Janechelseabill4 wrote:

Hi,We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on. He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that may help this problem.Thanks for any feedback.Sharon x

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

was very nice and patient. He did a normal eye test where she had to read

letters off a board across the room , she did this well. Then he had her follow

various objects like the tip of a pen etc holding it infront of her face and

then bringing it to the centre of her nose. He wanted to know if she could see

double at any point. Katy wasn't able to reliably tell him this , but he could

see her eye drifting off at certain points. He tested this lots of times and

very thoroughly. She wasn't helped at all by various lenses she tried on so we

are just doing the computer programme exercises.

Katy liked him , he spoke to her clearly and treated her with respect and

explained everything to her. As soon as we got home she asked to do the eye

exercises. She can read very well , it's her concentration thats the problem.

She also often has to cover one side of her face or shut one eye when walking

through crowds, getting off the bus or train and moving to areas of different

light. He said these were eye muscle problems , so I'm hoping the exercises will

help.

From what we saw of the clinic there wasn't much in the way of kiddies

entertainment , just a reception and clinical looking things so I would bring

something with you if your son find's this relaxing and comforting.

Good luck with your appointment !

Sharon x

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were

> > going this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

> > He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing

> > and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that

> > may help this problem.

> >

> > Thanks for any feedback.

> >

> > Sharon x

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

was very nice and patient. He did a normal eye test where she had to read

letters off a board across the room , she did this well. Then he had her follow

various objects like the tip of a pen etc holding it infront of her face and

then bringing it to the centre of her nose. He wanted to know if she could see

double at any point. Katy wasn't able to reliably tell him this , but he could

see her eye drifting off at certain points. He tested this lots of times and

very thoroughly. She wasn't helped at all by various lenses she tried on so we

are just doing the computer programme exercises.

Katy liked him , he spoke to her clearly and treated her with respect and

explained everything to her. As soon as we got home she asked to do the eye

exercises. She can read very well , it's her concentration thats the problem.

She also often has to cover one side of her face or shut one eye when walking

through crowds, getting off the bus or train and moving to areas of different

light. He said these were eye muscle problems , so I'm hoping the exercises will

help.

From what we saw of the clinic there wasn't much in the way of kiddies

entertainment , just a reception and clinical looking things so I would bring

something with you if your son find's this relaxing and comforting.

Good luck with your appointment !

Sharon x

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were

> > going this week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

> > He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing

> > and she probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that

> > may help this problem.

> >

> > Thanks for any feedback.

> >

> > Sharon x

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vilma,

This is very encouraging to hear the progress your son has made !

thanks for sharing this .

Sharon .

>

> Hi,

>

> We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going this

week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

> He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing and she

probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that may help this

problem.

>

> Thanks for any feedback.

>

> Sharon x

>

[Guest guest]

Vilma,

This is very encouraging to hear the progress your son has made !

thanks for sharing this .

Sharon .

>

> Hi,

>

> We went to see Adler yesterday. I think Jane and Marcia were going this

week aswell . I was wondering how you got on.

> He said Katy had very good vision but her eyes drifted when focussing and she

probably gets double vision. We have some exercises to do that may help this

problem.

>

> Thanks for any feedback.

>

> Sharon x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Isobel,Try Holland in Cheltenham. Just google him for more information.EfeOn Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:54 PM, isobelwizza <isobelwizza@...> wrote:

 

hi everyone

Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post you do it..

any information would be greatful!!

isobel