Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Adler in St Albans, regards Marina On 5 Nov 2009 18:54, " isobelwizza " <isobelwizza@...> wrote: hi everyone Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post you do it.. any information would be greatful!! isobel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Hi Isobel, We saw Adler in St Albans. Here is a link to his site . http://www.eyezone.co.uk/ Sharon > > hi everyone > Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post you do it.. > any information would be greatful!! > isobel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 ....we swapped from Holland to Adler.... -------- Original Message -------- *From:* Marina Vrahimi <marinavrahimi@...> *To:* Autism Treatment *Date:* Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:26:58 +0000 Adler in St Albans, regards Marina On 5 Nov 2009 18:54, " isobelwizza " <isobelwizza@...> wrote: hi everyone Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post you do it.. any information would be greatful!! isobel -- *Included Files:* am2file:001-HTML_Message.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Why did you swap, if you don't mind me asking? I am also thinking of vision therapy for my son. Nic Re: vision therapy ....we swapped from Holland to Adler....-------- Original Message --------*From:* Marina Vrahimi <marinavrahimigooglemail>*To:* Autism Treatment *Date:* Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:26:58 +0000 Adler in St Albans, regards MarinaOn 5 Nov 2009 18:54, "isobelwizza" <isobelwizza > wrote:hi everyoneSharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent postyoudo it..any information would be greatful!!isobel--*Included Files:*am2file:001-HTML_Message.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 We have been seeing Adler for over a year. 's processing, esp tracking and saccadic eye movement are massively improved. We did an assessment where had to read single and double digit figures - whole page of them in rows, left to right then move onto next line, reading them out loud as fast as he could, without making a mistake.This was previously a problem as he used to often read words on a page from the line below. He came out above 85 centile for his age. This is amazing for a boy who used to have to turn his whole head and body to track a moving object in the house or outside. Now his eye tracking of objects,especially a moving ball, is more or less age appropriate - Don't think we'll be taking up tennis any time soon though! Rhona > > hi everyone > Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post > you > do it.. > any information would be greatful!! > isobel > > -- > *Included Files:* > am2file:001-HTML_Message.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 My dd has been seeing Holland in Cheltenham for years. He has never suggested that she needed vision therapy - until I turned up one day with my dd wearing coloured lenses from Ian Jordan in Scotland. I thought that Mr Holland was about to lynch me - to say that he doesn't like Ian Jordan is an understatement. For some strange reason Mr Holland now considers that my dd needs vision therapy - like my OT says, why has he suddenly decided that. I'm not doing vision therapy - the blue lenses + sensory integration therapy + The Scotson Technique will I think sort her visual difficulties. They have already improved tremendously. Ian Jordan is a lovely man & he had my dd sussed within minutes. Has anyone else been there? > > > > hi everyone > > Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post > > you > > do it.. > > any information would be greatful!! > > isobel > > > > -- > > *Included Files:* > > am2file:001-HTML_Message.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Oh Yes! The Jovial Geordie! Heart in the right place, very smart man, has invented some amazing equipment for vision therapy- but IMHO could benefit from being a tad more organized!! Rhona > > > > > > hi everyone > > > Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post > > > you > > > do it.. > > > any information would be greatful!! > > > isobel > > > > > > -- > > > *Included Files:* > > > am2file:001-HTML_Message.html > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 We went when Katy was small ,she was very difficult to assess then.We had some green lenses but she would never wear them ! Sharon > > > > > > hi everyone > > > Sharon do you know where to get vision therapy I see in your recent post > > > you > > > do it.. > > > any information would be greatful!! > > > isobel > > > > > > -- > > > *Included Files:* > > > am2file:001-HTML_Message.html > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 hello tina thank you for posting this information it seems amazing the results .....seen, isobel > > We used Geoff Shayler down in Dorset for vision therapy. > > Here are 's results of 14 days of therapy (10 days x 2 hours per day in 2007 & 4 days x 2 hours per day in 2009) > > Before therapy After therapy > Peripheral vision 4 degrees 50 degrees > Visual Acuity R6/9 L6/9 R6/6 L6/6 > Refraction R +0.5, L+0.5 R 0.25 L 0.25 > Eye tracking poor excellent > Saccadic eye movement Diff maintaining concentration Good accurate control > Near point of clear focus 20 cm 8cm > Far point of clear focus 26 cm 56 cm > range of clear near focus 6cm 48cm > Fusional reserves poor normal > > His reading has greatly improved in fluency and as you can see he has gone from tunnel vision to good peripheral vision. This means his football, tennis etc are much improved! > > Geoff uses these strange coloured filters that you look into plus various exercises. Not got a clue how it works, but fantastic for both of my children - my daughter also had restricted peripheral vision and she now loves reading adult books and her academics have improved significantly. > > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hello. I did vision therapy with my child. We used a behavioral optometrist in NJ. It constituted using a chart and a series of exercises on a daily basis (I believe..it been quite some time ago). I can't say if my son benefited...I did it just to make sure he has no vision trouble. I did this while doing chelation (maybe a year ---25 rounds). Vidya ________________________________ From: catherine <ngozi_cathy@...> Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 1:31:29 AM Subject: [ ] vision therapy hello, please i am interested in vision therapy for my son. could anyone tell me about their experiences with vision therapy? at what stage of chelation is it best? we just completed round 26. who are the best doctors? what do i look out for? any advice will be highly appreciated cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 We saw Melvin Kaplan in Tarrytown, New York when my son was three. He prescribed prism lenses and showed me how both my son and I have problems with convergence. He threw a ball at me and I flinched when I caught it (as I always do, volleyball was a nightmare for me in PE class). Then he chose a pair of glasses for me and threw the ball again. No fear and I caught it easily. It was like a miracle. Unfortunately, my son (who was also beginning the biomedical route) did not respond so dramatically. I saw a lot more visual stimming, spaciness, wouldn't keep them on consistently, and finally broke the frames and hid the glasses in a box. (He was three, and we were doing to many things at once to say it was the glasses.) About a year later my son's visual system responded dramatically to secretin infusions. A squint, pushing on the corners of his eyes, peripheral gazing, lining up objects and a head tilt disappeared. He started drawing pictures and reading Dr. Suess books. (Before he could read individual words but would not track long enough to read a sentence.) We have also looked into pinhole eyeglasses, and the Eye Q program. I think there are several ways to skin a cat. > > Hi Penny, > > I'm certainly no expert, just a person who has done VT. > VT can include a lot of different stuff. It would depend > on the practitioner as well as the condition that is being > treated. My VT included a lot of vision exercises, some > physical exercises (bilateral movement!), eye patching, > and a few other things. They also had changes they asked > me to make in my desk set up at work, lighting, and > reading habits. The VT office I went to (behavioral > optomitrist) was very " structured " . They told me at the > first check-out visit what would be needed, how long it > would take, how much $ it would cost, etc. Very organized. > > I could not begin to say if VT would help your son, but > it is worth getting checked out, once you find a behavioral > optomotrist---which I think may not be so easy. I think > that most eye docs will not know a thing about VT. I > cannot guess how many different eye docs I went to who > failed to note the " eye teaming " problems I was having.... > (I was about 35 when a new eye doc mentioned the issue > to me-- so it is not like I hadn't had my eyes checked a lot.) > So, look for a behavioral optomitrist. (If you can't find > one, write me off-list and I'll give you the number for > my doc, and you can call and ask for a referral.) I think > the majority of the VT practice is kids with " learning > issues " .... I think VT can help (but not always). > > Also, mercury poisoning causes SEVERAL vision problems and > diseases...... check Andy's book if you want more info.... > in any case, perhaps chelation will help! I don't know > about stabismus. > > best, > Moria > > RESPONDING TO: > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:04:28 -0500 > From: Penny Galloup <mcksmom@...> > Subject: strabismus > > I know this was recently discussed and I just ignored it because I > didn't think it applied to me. My son's eyes occasionally cross, > sometimes he does a strange " popeye " sort of squint and recently one eye > at a time turns in occasionally. I still didn't think much of it > because I didn't know about strabismus until today. I just thought it > was a typical autistic stim behavior. My son's teacher asked the school > nurse to come in and look at my son's eyes. This is one of the things > she suspects could be wrong. I have an appointment with a optometrist > next week. > > He is 4.6 y.o. How can effective can vision therapy be at this point? > What exactly will they do? Where do prism lenses come in? If this is > the problem and is corrected could I see good changes in his learning > habits? > > I'm sorry for all the questions but this is new to me as of tonight and > I would appreciate everyone's input. I read the archives but would > still like to hear from all of you that this is pertinent to. > > Thanks so much. > > Penny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 We're doing vision therapy. My son has 20/20 vision and passed the school screening with no problems, but the school's autism specialist noted that his visual-spatial processing was really poor, what she termed as " statistically significant " . We saw a developmental optometrist and found that he has problems with visual tracking and refocusing. We've seen some improvement in tracking, but none so far with the focus issues. However, we've only been at it for a few months and the VT is combined with other sensory therapies, so it may take a bit longer. His IEP meeting is coming up, so Ill be working to see if the school can incorporate some VT goals. Karla > > > > Hi Penny, > > > > I'm certainly no expert, just a person who has done VT. > > VT can include a lot of different stuff. It would depend > > on the practitioner as well as the condition that is being > > treated. My VT included a lot of vision exercises, some > > physical exercises (bilateral movement!), eye patching, > > and a few other things. They also had changes they asked > > me to make in my desk set up at work, lighting, and > > reading habits. The VT office I went to (behavioral > > optomitrist) was very " structured " . They told me at the > > first check-out visit what would be needed, how long it > > would take, how much $ it would cost, etc. Very organized. > > > > I could not begin to say if VT would help your son, but > > it is worth getting checked out, once you find a behavioral > > optomotrist---which I think may not be so easy. I think > > that most eye docs will not know a thing about VT. I > > cannot guess how many different eye docs I went to who > > failed to note the " eye teaming " problems I was having.... > > (I was about 35 when a new eye doc mentioned the issue > > to me-- so it is not like I hadn't had my eyes checked a lot.) > > So, look for a behavioral optomitrist. (If you can't find > > one, write me off-list and I'll give you the number for > > my doc, and you can call and ask for a referral.) I think > > the majority of the VT practice is kids with " learning > > issues " .... I think VT can help (but not always). > > > > Also, mercury poisoning causes SEVERAL vision problems and > > diseases...... check Andy's book if you want more info.... > > in any case, perhaps chelation will help! I don't know > > about stabismus. > > > > best, > > Moria > > > > RESPONDING TO: > > Message: 20 > > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:04:28 -0500 > > From: Penny Galloup <mcksmom@> > > Subject: strabismus > > > > I know this was recently discussed and I just ignored it because I > > didn't think it applied to me. My son's eyes occasionally cross, > > sometimes he does a strange " popeye " sort of squint and recently one eye > > at a time turns in occasionally. I still didn't think much of it > > because I didn't know about strabismus until today. I just thought it > > was a typical autistic stim behavior. My son's teacher asked the school > > nurse to come in and look at my son's eyes. This is one of the things > > she suspects could be wrong. I have an appointment with a optometrist > > next week. > > > > He is 4.6 y.o. How can effective can vision therapy be at this point? > > What exactly will they do? Where do prism lenses come in? If this is > > the problem and is corrected could I see good changes in his learning > > habits? > > > > I'm sorry for all the questions but this is new to me as of tonight and > > I would appreciate everyone's input. I read the archives but would > > still like to hear from all of you that this is pertinent to. > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > Penny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I have a son 8 years old. He is diagnosed with Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, Expressive and Receptive Language Disorder. We had a hair sample done and he had mercury poising. We've done 8 rounds of ALA and it seems to be working. We want to try vision theropy (Family Vision Care and Vision Therapy in Belmont). Has anyone tried this for Dyslexia and has it worked? What other methods have worked for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I never tried this but my friend swears by it. eye vision improvement (age reversal) program I found years ago from American Vision Institute. Two of the physician founders passed on and now it is carried on through private donations to improve vision through their Vision Therapy Program which they now encourage you to download free onto your desktop. Interesting you mentioned as I was just planning to get back into this intensely as my eyes are failing (close up or small print) and I do not wish to go to glasses - ever. If you google American Vistion Institute you will find website is now visiontherapy .net., or, you can simply google Vision Therapy Program, and start learning and exercising your eyes today! Way back when it was commercially advertised (before people could download free and share files on the internet) it was over 400 bucks! Now it is FREE !!!! help to people like us. I just printed out the written 49 page guide/tutorial which has a multitude of eye exercises and information you should read several times to insure you understand (and have faith) and you can also download to your desktop and utilize three eye exercise modules noted on page 13 and 15 (about 71 minutes of computer time to watch). Personally, I found the non-video, physical exercises worked well for me without watching a terminal or screen which I believe has a counter impact to eye muscle focus and strengthening. > > I have a son 8 years old. He is diagnosed with Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, Expressive > and Receptive Language Disorder. We had a hair sample done and he had mercury > poising. We've done 8 rounds of ALA and it seems to be working. We want to try > vision theropy (Family Vision Care and Vision Therapy in Belmont). Has anyone > tried this for Dyslexia and has it worked? What other methods have worked for > you? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Im only finding the program for $35 when I google visiontherapy.net .. If you have access to the free link would you please post it. On 2010-11-23, at 11:34 AM, rwb000 wrote: > American Vision Institute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Apparently the FREE site is now $35. Was only free for short while a year or so ago. Sorry for any confusion. > > > > I have a son 8 years old. He is diagnosed with Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, Expressive > > and Receptive Language Disorder. We had a hair sample done and he had mercury > > poising. We've done 8 rounds of ALA and it seems to be working. We want to try > > vision theropy (Family Vision Care and Vision Therapy in Belmont). Has anyone > > tried this for Dyslexia and has it worked? What other methods have worked for > > you? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I really appreciate you sharing the info:=) I wonder if you can share with me your file(s). Not that I want to safe the money. I have previously purchased a couple of related products and I want to much sure that it is different from what I already have. As I don't see they have any money back guarantee and I don't want to spend the money for something I have already. Kym [ ] Re: vision therapy Apparently the FREE site is now $35. Was only free for short while a year or so ago. Sorry for any confusion. > > > > I have a son 8 years old. He is diagnosed with Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, Expressive > > and Receptive Language Disorder. We had a hair sample done and he had mercury > > poising. We've done 8 rounds of ALA and it seems to be working. We want to try > > vision theropy (Family Vision Care and Vision Therapy in Belmont). Has anyone > > tried this for Dyslexia and has it worked? What other methods have worked for > > you? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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