Re: GrapeFRUIT seed extract, not GRAPE

[Guest guest]

The acronym GSE, when used regarding anti-fungals/anti-microbials,

refers to grapeFRUIT seed extract, not GRAPE seed extract. Both are sold

as supplements.

Grapes are VERY high in phenols.

Grapefruit is MODERATELY high in phenols.

Apples are low to moderately high in phenols.

So, which one is it you are giving? GSE or grape seed extract?

nikkibarbieri wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti yeast

> supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> apple=high in phenols).

>

> Is GSE really high in phenols?

>

> Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

>

> Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> investigated this...jake's mom

>

>

[Guest guest]

Grape seed extract.

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti yeast

> > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > apple=high in phenols).

> >

> > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> >

> > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> >

> > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > investigated this...jake's mom

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know I have said this before- Grapefruit seed extract should be GFSE and then

Grape seed extract is GSE.

SHannon

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti yeast

> > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > apple=high in phenols).

> >

> > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> >

> > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> >

> > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > investigated this...jake's mom

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

too practical.

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti yeast

> > > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > > apple=high in phenols).

> > >

> > > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> > >

> > > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> > >

> > > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > > investigated this...jake's mom

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

S wrote:

>

>

>

> I know I have said this before- Grapefruit seed extract should be GFSE

> and then Grape seed extract is GSE.

>

Should, maybe. But legally and therefore practically, not.

The only allowable legal use of the acronym GSE in supplements is

Grapefruit Seed Extract. " GSE " is a Registered Trademark of Nutrition

Resource, Inc. for an " antiseptic, namely an antimicrobial and

antifungal topical liquid or powder for use on human skin and as

sanitizing agent. "

Which means GSE actually only refers to a certain preparation of

Grapefruit Seed Extract.

And therefore Grape Seed Extract is only referred to by manufacturers as

Grape Seed Extract, or Grape Seed, in supplements sold anywhere.

> SHannon

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti

> yeast

> > > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > > apple=high in phenols).

> > >

> > > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> > >

> > > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> > >

> > > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > > investigated this...jake's mom

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nikki,

Grape seed extract is _NOT_ an anti-fungal (which is the technical term

for an " anti-yeast " ).

Try liquid GSE, a form of grapefruit seed extract:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=NQ-2001

Also note that quick rotating of anti-fungals is the best way to produce

resistant strains. Please don't do this.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/171044.html

nikkibarbieri wrote:

>

>

> Grape seed extract.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti

> yeast

> > > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > > apple=high in phenols).

> > >

> > > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> > >

> > > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> > >

> > > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > > investigated this...jake's mom

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I know I have said this before- Grapefruit seed extract should be GFSE and

then Grape seed extract is GSE.

The bottle of Grapefruit Seed Extract has GSE in big letters on the front of the

bottle. So if everyone called it GFSE here, you might go to your local health

food store, or online, and not know that you were looking at the product you

wanted.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks .I am back to Caprylic Acid but was told no longer than 2 weeks.

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > I just purchased a bottle of GSE to rotate amongst my son's anti

> > yeast

> > > > supplements.He started giggling soon after having a capsule(also had

> > > > apple=high in phenols).

> > > >

> > > > Is GSE really high in phenols?

> > > >

> > > > Also for those with children that get the hysterical laughing just a

> > > > word of advice.I overlooked this for many years and now I truly

> > > > believe he has a problem with phenols.Don't wait as long as I did to

> > > > try to lower phenols in diet.He was doing really good for the last 1

> > > > 1/2 since we cut way back until tonight.I always thought it had to be

> > > > yeast even when tests showed no yeast due to so many anti yeast supps.

> > > >

> > > > Just thought I would put that out there for those parents who haven't

> > > > investigated this...jake's mom

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

just saying, our family has had huge gains while using gse and gfse together,

three or four times a day. They both kill bartonella, which is a major bacterial

infection involved in lyme disease. The gains from that was one of the clues

that lead us to look at lyme. So, and in conclusion I feel that gse and gfse

both kill possibly different similar strains of bacteria and the changes we see

in our family from it's use from both are dramatic if not miraculous.

[Guest guest]

OH YES GRAPE SEED EXTRACT IS ANTIFUNGAL

shelly

[Guest guest]

Axe wrote:

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> OH YES GRAPE SEED EXTRACT IS ANTIFUNGAL

>

Um, no need to yell, and I'm afraid you are misinformed. Please point to

the source that lead you to believe this.

> shelly

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, since I'm not trying to sell anything I'm not too worried about anybody

coming to haul me off to jail for trademark infringement And as well, most

things like that are trademarked with a specific font, look, etc...ANd I

certainly don't want to confuse anyone over it anymore than they generally are

right now. ALmost every thread about it that I have read has people asking

" which are you talking about? Grapefruit or Grape seed " - so I figured that would

be the easiest especially for newbies so people aren't using the wrong

thing for the wrong symptom. I was quite confused reading the threads about

what did what and what was helpful or not for different symptoms especially if

the symptom was not an obvious thing like yeast- we are all unconventional

pioneers here But you know whatever works for everybody

> > I know I have said this before- Grapefruit seed extract should be GFSE and

then Grape seed extract is GSE.

>

>

> The bottle of Grapefruit Seed Extract has GSE in big letters on the front of

the bottle. So if everyone called it GFSE here, you might go to your local

health food store, or online, and not know that you were looking at the product

you wanted.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Grape seed extract-phenols???

> > I know I have said this before- Grapefruit seed extract should be GFSE and

then Grape seed extract is GSE.

>

>

> The bottle of Grapefruit Seed Extract has GSE in big letters on the front of

the bottle. So if everyone called it GFSE here, you might go to your local

health food store, or online, and not know that you were looking at the product

you wanted.

>

> Dana

>