Re: Help with test results (x post)

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chelation can deplete neutrophils. It is not wise to chelate when

neutrophi8ls are low. Further depletion could result in neutropenia, a

life-threatening condition. As you may know, neutrophils are a type of

white blood cell.

I know this because it took us years to get our son's neutrophil count up to

where we could chelate.

Haven

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Haven

And how did you accomplish such complicated improvement?? Can you pls elaborate

on how you improved his neutrophils count? Very interesting

TIA

Isa

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Re: [ ] Help with test results (x post)

chelation can deplete neutrophils. It is not wise to chelate when

neutrophi8ls are low. Further depletion could result in neutropenia, a

life-threatening condition. As you may know, neutrophils are a type of

white blood cell.

I know this because it took us years to get our son's neutrophil count up to

where we could chelate.

Haven

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It took time, and a lot of change. My son regressed after vaccines at

fifteen months. It was immediate, but his pediatrician who had lied to me

about the vaccine ingredients then abandoned us and ran for hills. So we

couldn't find anyone to really help us until he was maybe two or three -- I

can't remember exactly without the record in front of me.

We got onthe waiting list to see Dr. Amy Holmes(who was then in partnership

with Dr. Cave, in Baton Rouge LA. they were booked a year in

advance but I called every day, and about two months in there was a

cacellation for the following morning, so my husband and I left North Texas

immediately and drove straight through. Dr. Holmes is the one who

explained all this to us.

Anyway, we started the gf/crf/sf diet taking one thing away every few

months. We have worked hard to clean up his diet, cut out sugar, no

carbonated drinks, lots of metabolic supports. She tested and found his

deficiencies. He regained some speech with just diet and metabolic supports

alone along with my own ABA program (I just read the book and implemented

strategies, and he also had ECI come until he was three.

Low neutrophils opens the body up to infection. Our son had his first bout

of pneumonia at age two. They gave him broad spectrum antibiotic IM for two

days and then followed it up with four days of oral Omnicef. On the fourth

day of treatment, he sat up and said every word he knew before regression.

I ran to the Internet and found a study where Vancomycin adinistered IM

cause children with autism to improve, but that they regressed to baseline

once the antibiotic was stopped. I cried; I had heard my son's voice again,

and the thought of losing it again....

Well, he didn't regress to baseline all the way; he still kept some one

syllable utterances and echolalia. By the following year he had gained

several one syllable words, and then we took soy protein away, and after

four days he said his first sentence!

We did only diet and metabolic supports until 2006 (from 2001-2006). In

2006 we chelated IV using EDTA or DMSA or DMPS for seven months. His

neutrophil count had stabilized by then. but he had a reaction to DMSA or

DMPS and we had to stop. Then this summer we went back and chelated with

only EDTA IV. Again after about three or four weeks, he had an asthmatic

reaction, so we have stopped and now beleive that IV chelation is a

dangerous way to go.

We will never do that again. We are stdying the AC protocol and Andy says

we can use only ALA, I think. so I am studying.

Also during those early years our son's copper levels were terribly high and

's disease had to be ruled out. He has been on zinc supplementation

to keep his copper levels in check ever since.

Get your child's diet and environment cleaned up. Lower the toxic load as

much as you can and use supplements and as organic diet as possible.Then the

neutrophils will come up, but it may take time.

It is the same worry for people who are undergoing chemotherapy. They have

to watch the neutrophils because chemo depletes neutrophils and neutropenia

is always a worry. If the neutrophils drop, they will stop chemo until they

come back up.

Our son's came back up, but he has still contracted pneumonia eight times

since age two.

Hope this helps.

Haven

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Before ingesting invasive bacteria, neutrophils can release a net of fibers

called a neutrophil extracellular trap (NET), which serves to trap and kill

microbes outside of the cell. When neutrophils ingest microbes, they release

a number of proteins in primary, secondary, and tertiary granules that help

kill the bacteria. They also release superoxide, which becomes converted

into hypochlorous acid<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hypochlorous-acid.htm>,

or chlorine <http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-chlorine.htm> bleach, which is

theorized to play a part in killing microbes as well.A deficiency of

neutrophils is called *neutropenia* and may be congenital or acquired, for

example in certain kinds of

anemia<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-anemia.htm>and

leukemia <http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-leukemia.htm>, or as a side effect

of chemotherapy <http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-chemotherapy.htm>. Since

neutrophils are such an important part of the immune response, a lowered

neutrophil count results in a compromised immune

system<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-immune-system.htm>.

Neutrophils are the most common type of white blood

cell<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-white-blood-cell.htm>,

comprising about 50-70% of all white blood cells. They are phagocytic,

meaning that they can ingest other cells, though they do not survive the

act. Neutrophils are the first immune cells to arrive at a site of

infection, through a process known as *chemotaxis*.

Though neutrophils are short lived, with a

half-life<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-half-life.htm>of four to

ten hours when not activated and immediate death upon ingesting a

pathogen, they are plentiful and responsible for the bulk of an immune

response. They are the main component of

pus<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-causes-pus.htm>and responsible for

its whitish color. Neutrophils are present in the

bloodstream until signaled to a site of infection by

chemical<http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-chemical.htm>cues in the

body. They are fast acting, arriving at the site of infection

within an hour.

A blood differential test, or WBC will test to check the levels of each type

of white blood cell.

Five types of white blood cells, also called leukocytes, normally appear in

the blood:

- Neutrophils

- Lymphocytes (B cells and T cells)

- Monocytes

- Eosinophils

- Basophils

A computer or the health care provider counts the number of each type of

cell. The test shows if the number of cells are in proper proportion with

one another, and if there is more or less of one cell type.

Normal Results

Normal Results

- Neutrophils: 40% to 60%

- Lymphocytes: 20% to 40%

- Monocytes: 2% to 8%

- Eosinophils: 1% to 4%

- Basophils: 0.5% to 1%

- Band (young neutrophil): 0% to 3%

A decreased percentage of neutrophils may be due to:

- Aplastic

anemia<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000571.htm>Aplastic

anemia

- Chemotherapy<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002324.htm>

Chemotherapy

- Influenza <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000080.htm>

Influenza

- Widespread bacterial infection

- Radiation

therapy<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001918.htm>Radiation

therapy or exposure

Using chelators may deplete neutrophils as well. I am not sure if this is

true for the AC protocol, but know it is for IV chelation, and therefore

this would make it more risky (dangerous). Ask Andy. His protocol would be

the safest, I believe as in IV they are using high dosages and doing it

sporadically as to where the AC dosages are relatively small and given in a

steady stream at correct intervals.

I now regret ever doing IV, and realize I should have listened to my

instinct and never done it again after my son's first reaction. If we do it

again, it will be Andy's protocol, but I want to get my son's body really

prepared for it diet and supplementation wise and really understand it well,

so I am reading a lot. I am just lucky all my son had was an asthma attack.

---but it scared the heck out of me.

As long as you test the neutrophil count every so often, it should be fine.

It is the same as needing to check kidney liver function. It is worse to

leave mercury and lead in the body and brain. Just be conscientious. Have

a doctor perform a WBC every couple of months I would think. Andy???

Haven