Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

August 3, 2010

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.

IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.

Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off.

Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.

Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical.

Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

Thanks Tracey

We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok

Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

Thanks Tracey

We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok

Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

The anti yeasts will contain symptoms, though are less likely to overcome the problem of yeast

... The prescribed one's IMO are quite toxic on the body and are not a long term solution.. however the full recovery happens when the acid alkali balance is addressed and this balance does not happen when the body is continually adding to the acid load. Part of that load comes from incorrect breathing.

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:10 PM, B <peter_2_@...> wrote:

Thanks Tracey We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...

Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.

IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.

Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off.

Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.

Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical.

Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

The anti yeasts will contain symptoms, though are less likely to overcome the problem of yeast

... The prescribed one's IMO are quite toxic on the body and are not a long term solution.. however the full recovery happens when the acid alkali balance is addressed and this balance does not happen when the body is continually adding to the acid load. Part of that load comes from incorrect breathing.

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:10 PM, B <peter_2_@...> wrote:

Thanks Tracey We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...

Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.

IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.

Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off.

Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.

Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical.

Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

Hello Tracey

Sorry to hear about the breathing issues. These are a symptom of mercury and toxins being in the nerve communication networks to the diaphragm and breathing muscles. Our mercury and toxins seem to have ended up in the paths to the larynx rather than to the lungs, but we are addressing the root cause through chelation, however having to manage the yeast whilst we do that

Thanks

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:17:40 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The anti yeasts will contain symptoms, though are less likely to overcome the problem of yeast

... The prescribed one's IMO are quite toxic on the body and are not a long term solution.. however the full recovery happens when the acid alkali balance is addressed and this balance does not happen when the body is continually adding to the acid load. Part of that load comes from incorrect breathing.

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:10 PM, B <peter_2_@...> wrote:

Thanks Tracey We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

Hello Tracey

Sorry to hear about the breathing issues. These are a symptom of mercury and toxins being in the nerve communication networks to the diaphragm and breathing muscles. Our mercury and toxins seem to have ended up in the paths to the larynx rather than to the lungs, but we are addressing the root cause through chelation, however having to manage the yeast whilst we do that

Thanks

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 17:17:40 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The anti yeasts will contain symptoms, though are less likely to overcome the problem of yeast

... The prescribed one's IMO are quite toxic on the body and are not a long term solution.. however the full recovery happens when the acid alkali balance is addressed and this balance does not happen when the body is continually adding to the acid load. Part of that load comes from incorrect breathing.

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:10 PM, B <peter_2_@...> wrote:

Thanks Tracey We will stop all the anti-yeast supplements then and breath better ok Best wishes

Autism Treatment From: thelifechangers@...Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:48:25 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Yeast rotation protocols

The other thing not commented on is WHY the yeast problem in the first place? All the approaches mentioned are simply playing with the symptoms rather than addressing the cause.and not allowing the body to learn how to balance itself.. consistently with yeast is acid body.. Biggest cause of acid body is incomplete breathing.. often weakened exhalations so carbon dioxide builds in the body and as it is not released it converts to Carbonic Acid... Moulds, Bacteria and Yeast LOVE acid...

Alkaline foods, no refined carbs, sugars. fruits, Yeasts like Mushrooms, and food combining are a useful support to helping the body regain the perfect balance between acid and alkali... in balance Yeast cannot exist.. Best Wishes

Tracey

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

I agree totally with everything Anita said, rotation only ever caused problems for us and we stopped years ago

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 14:58:31 GMT Daylight Time, mysuperteach@... writes:

I wouldn't rotate. This is what will make the yeast resistant. Find something(s) that work. Use them until you think that there's no more problem or they're not working anymore. If, after a few months, you realize that something that once worked is no longer working, choose something else. This isn't the same a rotating.IMO, what works best are enzymes to break down yeast walls together with lots of bacteria, so probiotics in high doses and cultured foods. If you need killers, use them in conjunction with enzymes. So enzymes first and then a few hours later the killlers, followed up by loads of probiotics.Biotin in sufficient doses will prevent the yeast from 'hiding'. Sacc B is good if used for a block of time (one bottle, let's say) and then when stopped, up the probiotics while the Sacc B is dying off. Often people don't use nearly enough probiotics. We used 3 trillion CFUs a day for a long period. That didn't include cultured food. IMO cultured food is esp important for kids who would have been on antibacterials from a very early age.Another common mistake is not understanding what action each of the antifungal agents performs. People should be making decisions based on these functions so that the attack on the yeast is widespread and logical. Lastly, be sure that the immune system is functioning as optimally as possible.

August 3, 2010

This is interesting. I've heard the same thing, have not done this with

natural agents, but have with pharmaceuticals when we use them. Do you or

anyone else have any documentation or clinical studies (not that that always

proves anything anyway) or perhaps others in the group with anecdotal

information?

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM, andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I heard at a recent autism conference that yeast protocols should be

> rotated

>

> This should never be done and any doctor who suggests it should be

> considered dangerously incompetent.

>

> >as the yeast can build up immunity.

>

> No, this isn't correct. The way you breed resistant organisms in the lab is

> to rotate the agent you want them resistant to.

>

> By rotating agents you are essentially guaranteeing you will create a

> resistant strain in your kid's gut sooner or later. If you DON'T want to do

> that, keep them on one thing that works.

>

> > We currently use: nystatin 300,000 IUs per day, candex (2 per day),

> charcoal between rounds, OoO 2 drops twice a day - this is for a 5 year old

> girl weighing 22 kg (50lbs) on DMSA/ALA 6mg AC protocol 84 hours on/off

> >

> > Can someone help by advising:

> >

> > 1. What yeast protocols/ supplements we can rotate?

>

> None, ever, no matter what anyone says. Never rotate antimicrobials.

>

> > 2. Location of the biofilm protocol?

>

> Don't use it if you actually want your kid to get better.

>

> it is EXTREMELY informative to talk to some adults who tried it on

> themselves.

>

> > Thanks so much

> >

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

--

God's blessings in Christ,

Your Partner in Health,

N. Rydland, M.D.

Founder and developer of kidsWellness, Inc.

Natural products and information for healthier families

www.kidswellness.com

www.rydlandjuice.com

Offices in Central Virginia and South Florida

434-984-KIDS [5437]

August 4, 2010

For clinical trials etc we would expect the Doctors of medicine to have these at

their fingertips, not parents, unless we are viewed as the professionals now

>

> From: drrydland@...

> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:24:19 -0400

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Yeast rotation protocols

>

> This is interesting. I've heard the same thing, have not done this with

> natural agents, but have with pharmaceuticals when we use them. Do you or

> anyone else have any documentation or clinical studies (not that that always

> proves anything anyway) or perhaps others in the group with anecdotal

> information?

>

> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM, andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > I heard at a recent autism conference that yeast protocols should be

> > rotated

> >

> > This should never be done and any doctor who suggests it should be

> > considered dangerously incompetent.

> >

> > >as the yeast can build up immunity.

> >

> > No, this isn't correct. The way you breed resistant organisms in the lab is

> > to rotate the agent you want them resistant to.

> >

> > By rotating agents you are essentially guaranteeing you will create a

> > resistant strain in your kid's gut sooner or later. If you DON'T want to do

> > that, keep them on one thing that works.

> >

> > > We currently use: nystatin 300,000 IUs per day, candex (2 per day),

> > charcoal between rounds, OoO 2 drops twice a day - this is for a 5 year old

> > girl weighing 22 kg (50lbs) on DMSA/ALA 6mg AC protocol 84 hours on/off

> > >

> > > Can someone help by advising:

> > >

> > > 1. What yeast protocols/ supplements we can rotate?

> >

> > None, ever, no matter what anyone says. Never rotate antimicrobials.

> >

> > > 2. Location of the biofilm protocol?

> >

> > Don't use it if you actually want your kid to get better.

> >

> > it is EXTREMELY informative to talk to some adults who tried it on

> > themselves.

> >

> > > Thanks so much

> > >

> > Andy

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

> >

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

> >

>

> --

> God's blessings in Christ,

> Your Partner in Health,

> N. Rydland, M.D.

> Founder and developer of kidsWellness, Inc.

> Natural products and information for healthier families

> www.kidswellness.com

> www.rydlandjuice.com

>

> Offices in Central Virginia and South Florida

>

> 434-984-KIDS [5437]

>

August 4, 2010

Only VSL as far as I know

Mandi x

In a message dated 03/08/2010 20:07:30 GMT Daylight Time, andrea.edmondson@... writes:

I'm assuming there are probios out there that have higher CFU's per cap....

August 10, 2010

Huh? Now I am REALLY confused. I've never heard of only giving them one thing

that works, because the bactieria will learn to overcome what you are giving

them. Unless, you confuse them and before they can figure out how to overcome

what you're giving them, you switch to something else. I've read books about

this, doctors have told me this, and friends who have kids on the spectrum whose

kids have gut issues are rotating yeast protocols b/c of what we've all been

told. Why would we be told to do this if it's, in essence, hurting our kids?

I'm also confused about who it is that's saying this. or Andy Cutler? I

just want to make sure I'm getting my facts straight before I decide to stop

what I'm currently doing for my son and tell other parents I know what I've just

learned.

Sorry if this message sounds so blunt. This just blew my mind!

le

(mom to)

, 5, ASD

Elijah, 4, ASD

Serena, 3, ASD

________________________________

From: B <peter_2_@...>

autism mercury <autism treatment >

Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 3:20:07 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Yeast rotation protocols

Â

For clinical trials etc we would expect the Doctors of medicine to have these at

their fingertips, not parents, unless we are viewed as the professionals now

>

> From: drrydland@...

> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:24:19 -0400

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Yeast rotation protocols

>

> This is interesting. I've heard the same thing, have not done this with

> natural agents, but have with pharmaceuticals when we use them. Do you or

> anyone else have any documentation or clinical studies (not that that always

> proves anything anyway) or perhaps others in the group with anecdotal

> information?

>

> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM, andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > I heard at a recent autism conference that yeast protocols should be

> > rotated

> >

> > This should never be done and any doctor who suggests it should be

> > considered dangerously incompetent.

> >

> > >as the yeast can build up immunity.

> >

> > No, this isn't correct. The way you breed resistant organisms in the lab is

> > to rotate the agent you want them resistant to.

> >

> > By rotating agents you are essentially guaranteeing you will create a

> > resistant strain in your kid's gut sooner or later. If you DON'T want to do

> > that, keep them on one thing that works.

> >

> > > We currently use: nystatin 300,000 IUs per day, candex (2 per day),

> > charcoal between rounds, OoO 2 drops twice a day - this is for a 5 year old

> > girl weighing 22 kg (50lbs) on DMSA/ALA 6mg AC protocol 84 hours on/off

> > >

> > > Can someone help by advising:

> > >

> > > 1. What yeast protocols/ supplements we can rotate?

> >

> > None, ever, no matter what anyone says. Never rotate antimicrobials.

> >

> > > 2. Location of the biofilm protocol?

> >

> > Don't use it if you actually want your kid to get better.

> >

> > it is EXTREMELY informative to talk to some adults who tried it on

> > themselves.

> >

> > > Thanks so much

> > >

> > Andy

> >

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August 11, 2010

Many of them say it , I've heard it time and time again, I take

notice..the people that know best are other parents who hhave been there done

that got the t-shirt and disposed of it

Mandi x

In a message dated 11/08/2010 13:07:41 GMT Daylight Time,

peter_2_@... writes:

So I think everyone agrees that you do not rotate anti-fungals (and it was

an error that a speaker at an autism conference recently seemed to say the

opposite, and I even wrote it down)

August 11, 2010

Hello le

From reading all the replies, it seems people do not recommend yeast rotation

protocols, simply find something that works and stick with it.

In Rimland/Pangborne book it states " do 2 week trial of each until one works " ,

then lists a few different ones eg Saccharomyces Boulardii, nystatin, caprylic

acid, oregano, citrus extract, candex..

So I think everyone agrees that you do not rotate anti-fungals (and it was an

error that a speaker at an autism conference recently seemed to say the

opposite, and I even wrote it down)

Best wishes

From: maestra1_99@...

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:58:20 -0700

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Yeast rotation protocols