Guest guest Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 > I had tried giving my son GSE in the past and he had terrible diareah. Sometimes yeast die off is what causes the diarrhea. Other times diarrhea is caused by a dose that is too high. It can also be caused by intolerance to the GSE. > Im pretty sure that I have read that No-Phenol helps kids to tolerate the GSE. Am I right? If the problem is related to phenols, or the " fruit " nature, then yes, No-Fenol will help. >>If so how far apart do you need to give the two? Or at the same time? Give them together. > Can I try giving him more biotin first? He now gets 5000 mcg a day. Try giving him 5000mcg 2x per day, see if that helps. My son needed 20mg 3x per day, which is significantly more than you are giving. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 When we used liquid GSE, we gave with no-phenol, right after. You can increase the biotin; we started with 5mg (with mag) at every meal. HTH Strozier Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:44 PM, " Curran " <lizcurran70@...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I had tried giving my son GSE in the past and he had terrible diareah. I thought we had yeast under control using Candex and biotin but since we started chelating this doesnt seem to do the trick anymore. > > Im pretty sure that I have read that No-Phenol helps kids to tolerate the GSE. Am I right? If so how far apart do you need to give the two? Or at the same time? > > Can I try giving him more biotin first? He now gets 5000 mcg a day. He is 52 lbs. > > Thanks sooo much. > Liz ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Dana, My son is a leaky gut kid and seems to react badly to almost everything. He has had diareah for most of his life. Unless he is on an extremely bland diet. Poor kid, because he loves to eat ( We just started chelating and I was wondering if you could tell me how long you chelated till yeast wasnt an issue anymore. I know everyone is different but its nice to have some idea. Also I want to say thank you for what you do!! Liz > > I had tried giving my son GSE in the past and he had terrible diareah. > > > Sometimes yeast die off is what causes the diarrhea. Other times diarrhea is caused by a dose that is too high. It can also be caused by intolerance to the GSE. > > > > Im pretty sure that I have read that No-Phenol helps kids to tolerate the GSE. Am I right? > > > If the problem is related to phenols, or the " fruit " nature, then yes, No-Fenol will help. > > > >>If so how far apart do you need to give the two? Or at the same time? > > > Give them together. > > > > Can I try giving him more biotin first? He now gets 5000 mcg a day. > > > Try giving him 5000mcg 2x per day, see if that helps. My son needed 20mg 3x per day, which is significantly more than you are giving. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 > Dana, > My son is a leaky gut kid and seems to react badly to almost everything. He has had diareah for most of his life. Unless he is on an extremely bland diet. Poor kid, because he loves to eat ( My son tolerated no foods. He started tolerating foods when I gave him HNI enzymes. It took ALA chelation plus several supplements before he tolerated everything. > We just started chelating and I was wondering if you could tell me how long you chelated till yeast wasnt an issue anymore. My son stopped having gut-yeast issues at about round 50 of ALA chelation. Brain/head yeast required a few other things besides chelation. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Some things that help around here: Sea salt -- helps kill yeast and also helps rebuild the gut, which helps with diarrhea. However, can promote diarrhea in the short run. For me, absorbs better when consumed with the right carbs and oils. Mashed potatoes made with sea salt and organic butter was a staple around here for quite a long time. Probiotics -- helps kill yeast and helps rebuild the gut, which helps with diarrhea. I got them from an organic yogurt but I know a lot of folks on this list have to be dairy free. So there are other options. Glyconutrients -- help rebuild the gut so it works better, but can promote diarrhea in the short run. Aloe vera is a lot cheaper and available all over and is one of the ingredients of the brand I used. It did about 50% for me what glyconutrients did. I switched to aloe supplements when I could no longer afford glyconutrients and also after I learned they changed the formulation and I was now reacting allergically to one of the new ingredients. Slowing down the protocol: whatever I was doing to kill stuff/remove stuff from my system, slow it down so the yeast is not so overwhelming. Coconut oil: I used this topically, mostly vaginally, to help kill yeast. It can also be taken orally but my experience has been it moves metals at a low level, so may not be a good idea to take orally while chelating as it may speed things up/make this more intense and out of control. Rice: Rice helps absorb toxins and also reduces diarrhea. Too much of it can lead to constipation. Chocolate: A little dark chocolate can slow diarrhea. Too much of it can lead to constipation. Lettuce: I was eating this primarily to work on PH balance but it generally did good things for my gut and helped with yeast. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Hi All, > > I had tried giving my son GSE in the past and he had terrible diareah. I thought we had yeast under control using Candex and biotin but since we started chelating this doesnt seem to do the trick anymore. > > Im pretty sure that I have read that No-Phenol helps kids to tolerate the GSE. Am I right? If so how far apart do you need to give the two? Or at the same time? > > Can I try giving him more biotin first? He now gets 5000 mcg a day. He is 52 lbs. > > Thanks sooo much. > Liz ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Be sure that it is a good quality sea salt. Read the label carefully. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2010, at 10:34 AM, " michele_in_california " <talithamichele@...> wrote: > Some things that help around here: > > Sea salt -- helps kill yeast and also helps rebuild the gut, which helps with diarrhea. However, can promote diarrhea in the short run. For me, absorbs better when consumed with the right carbs and oils. Mashed potatoes made with sea salt and organic butter was a staple around here for quite a long time. > > Probiotics -- helps kill yeast and helps rebuild the gut, which helps with diarrhea. I got them from an organic yogurt but I know a lot of folks on this list have to be dairy free. So there are other options. > > Glyconutrients -- help rebuild the gut so it works better, but can promote diarrhea in the short run. Aloe vera is a lot cheaper and available all over and is one of the ingredients of the brand I used. It did about 50% for me what glyconutrients did. I switched to aloe supplements when I could no longer afford glyconutrients and also after I learned they changed the formulation and I was now reacting allergically to one of the new ingredients. > > Slowing down the protocol: whatever I was doing to kill stuff/remove stuff from my system, slow it down so the yeast is not so overwhelming. > > Coconut oil: I used this topically, mostly vaginally, to help kill yeast. It can also be taken orally but my experience has been it moves metals at a low level, so may not be a good idea to take orally while chelating as it may speed things up/make this more intense and out of control. > > Rice: Rice helps absorb toxins and also reduces diarrhea. Too much of it can lead to constipation. > > Chocolate: A little dark chocolate can slow diarrhea. Too much of it can lead to constipation. > > Lettuce: I was eating this primarily to work on PH balance but it generally did good things for my gut and helped with yeast. > > That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Good luck with this. > > Michele > http://www.healthgazelle.com > http://www.kidslikemine.com > http://www.solanorail.com > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I had tried giving my son GSE in the past and he had terrible diareah. I thought we had yeast under control using Candex and biotin but since we started chelating this doesnt seem to do the trick anymore. > > > > Im pretty sure that I have read that No-Phenol helps kids to tolerate the GSE. Am I right? If so how far apart do you need to give the two? Or at the same time? > > > > Can I try giving him more biotin first? He now gets 5000 mcg a day. He is 52 lbs. > > > > Thanks sooo much. > > Liz ) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Yes. They vary tremendously in quality. I mostly use Celtic sea salt. McCormick French Grey is another I buy sometimes. My son describes French Grey as " like stale Celtic salt " . Other brands of sea salt we have tried have, so far, just no measured up in quality. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com > > Be sure that it is a good quality sea salt. Read the label carefully. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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