whey protein

[Guest guest]

I am also interested in learning more about the ingredients in Whey Protein

powders. I just won a HUGE tub of it last night at a show and although it's

sweetened with stevia and it seems safe, there are still ingredients in

there I don't recognize. My doctor has suggested that I take whey to boost

my protein intake (I don't eat meat) so I've been using the plain stuff,

nothing added, no sweeteners or flavour (by SISU). I make a shake in the

morning mixing a scoop of whey, 2 teaspoons of Greens Plus, 1 teaspoon Flax

Powder and some stevia in my unsweetened soy milk.

My question: Where can I go online to research specific ingredients? Laurie

L. mentioned that she checked out the National Medical Library, but do we

have access to this info on the net? Are there sites that are devoted to

providing info on ingredients in foods? Although I could simply post those

ingredients that I don't know and hope someone could tell me something about

them, I'd rather find the info myself.

Sincerely,

Geena V

[Guest guest]

A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives by Ruth Winter is a great

ingredient reference. I'm sure it can be found in many health food stores or

book stores, or amazon.com.

*Jami

[Guest guest]

Hi Geena

You can get to the National Medical Library online, there is a link

to it on my husband's personal website (on CFIDS[CFS])

http://www.folkarts.com/idef

and in the left column, scroll down and look for

" Click to search Nat. Med. Lib "

I also try to research ingredients, and it can be pretty hard,

especially if they are being talked about in a marketing context.

There should also be a place where you can access complaints to the

FDA, but I've looked at their website and it isn't clear where that

information is located. Otherwise, there is a " search " button on

their home page, and you can type in your search words and then also

click on " Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition " in the box at

the right. There are a lot of documents there, and I haven't gone

into it myself. I'd like to know if anyone finds anything.

Hope this helps.

Laurie L.

[Guest guest]

Tom: Natural raw whey from cows milk is a weak glutathione

increaser due to the water content; you'd need to drink about 5-

10 gallons a day to get the kind of dose we're using to cure

disease and reverse free radical damage, but useful it is.

Duncan

On 15 Apr 2007 at 13:07, candidiasis wrote:

>

> Posted by: " Tom Hordnes " tnorskie@... tnorskie

> Date: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:00 pm ((PDT))

>

> Is it ok to use homemade whey from raw cows milk? Thanks, Terri

>

>

[Guest guest]

how much jarrow whey does one need a day if trying to overcome illness?

thanks

monique

[Guest guest]

Dana,

You mentioned a casein free whey protein. Did you have a difficult time getting

your children to drink it? My son likes ice cream ok but stopped drinking

anything that looked like milk 10 years ago. That includes chocolate milk.

Drissia

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> You mentioned a casein free whey protein. Did you have a difficult time

getting your children to drink it?

I mixed it into food.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Ok. You said your child reacted to rice protein and pea protein. what was that

reaction like? Did it take the form of digestive problems or behavioral

problems? Is this information on your website?

 

Thanks,

D.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: whey protein

Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 10:34 AM

 

> Dana,

> You mentioned a casein free whey protein. Did you have a difficult time

getting your children to drink it?

I mixed it into food.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Ok. You said your child reacted to rice protein and pea protein. what was that

reaction like? Did it take the form of digestive problems or behavioral

problems?

Mostly behavioral. Peas are green, so a carotene food. Carotenes were like

poison to my son's brain until I corrected his carotene conversion issue. Rice

was similar, altho not a carotene food.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Peas are a starch food. Although there are some leafy greens in the carotene

family, peas are not one of them. Carotene is responsible for the *ORANGE* color

in vegetables, not *green*.

From Wikipedia:

The term carotene is used for several related hydrocarbon substances having the

formula C40Hx, which are synthesized by plants but cannot be made by animals.

Carotene is an orange photosynthetic pigment important for photosynthesis.

Carotenes are all coloured to the human eye. They are responsible for the orange

colour of the carrot, for which this class of chemicals is named, and for the

colours of many other fruits and vegetables (for example, sweet potatoes and

orange cantaloupe melon). Carotenes are also responsible for the orange (but not

all of the the yellow) colours in dry foliage. They also (in lower

concentrations) impart the yellow colouration to milk-fat and butter. Omnivorous

animal species which are relatively poor converters of coloured dietary

carotenoids to colourless retinoids have yellowed-coloured body fat, as a result

of the carotenoid retention from the vegetable portion of their diet. The

typical yellow-coloured fat of humans and chickens is a result of fat storage of

carotenes from their diets.

Carotenes contribute to photosynthesis by transmitting the light energy they

absorb from chlorophyll. They also protect plant tissues by helping to absorb

the energy from singlet oxygen, an excited form of the oxygen molecule O2 which

is formed during photosynthesis.

¥â-Carotene is composed of two retinyl groups, and is broken down in the mucosa

of the human small intestine by beta-carotene 15,15'-monooxygenase to retinal, a

form of vitamin A. ¥â-Carotene can be stored in the liver and body fat and

converted to retinal as needed, thus making it a form of vitamin A for humans

and some other mammals. The carotenes ¥á-carotene and ¥ã-carotene, due to their

single retinyl group (beta-ionone ring), also have some vitamin A activity

(though less than ¥â-carotene), as does the xanthophyll carotenoid

¥â-cryptoxanthin. All other carotenoids, including lycopene, have no beta-ring

and thus no vitamin A activity (although they may have antioxidant activity and

thus biological activity in other ways).

Animal species differ greatly in their ability to convert retinyl (beta-ionone)

containing carotenoids to retinals. Carnivores in general are poor converters of

dietary ionine-containg carotenoids, and pure carnivores such as cats and ferets

lack beta-carotene 15,15'-monooxygenase and cannot convert any carotenoids to

retinals at all (resulting in carotenes not being a form of vitamin A for these

species).

Dietary sources

The following foods are particularly rich in carotenes[1] (also see Vitamin A

article for amounts):

sweet potatoes

carrots

wolfberries (goji)

cantaloupe melon

mangoes

apricots

Persimmon

spinach

kale

chard

turnip greens

dandelion greens

beet greens

mustard greens

collard greens

watercress

cilantro

fresh thyme

broccoli

parsley

romaine lettuce

ivy gourd

rose hips

winter squash

pumpkin

cassava

Absorption from these foods is enhanced if eaten with fats, as carotenes are fat

soluble, and if the food is cooked for a few minutes until the plant cell wall

splits and the colour is released into any liquid. 6 ¥ìg of dietary ¥â-carotene

supplies the equivalent of 1 ¥ìg of retinol, or 1 RE (Retinol Equivalent). This

is equivalent to 3¨÷ IU of vitamin A.

> > Ok. You said your child reacted to rice protein and pea protein. what was

that reaction like? Did it take the form of digestive problems or behavioral

problems?

>

>

> Mostly behavioral. Peas are green, so a carotene food. Carotenes were like

poison to my son's brain until I corrected his carotene conversion issue. Rice

was similar, altho not a carotene food.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

And how did you manage that?

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: whey protein

Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:59 AM

 

> Ok. You said your child reacted to rice protein and pea protein. what was that

reaction like? Did it take the form of digestive problems or behavioral

problems?

Mostly behavioral. Peas are green, so a carotene food. Carotenes were like

poison to my son's brain until I corrected his carotene conversion issue. Rice

was similar, altho not a carotene food.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

What about carrots?

Did the allergy shows up in IgE or IgG tests?

Sasmita

> > Ok. You said your child reacted to rice protein and pea protein. what was

that reaction like? Did it take the form of digestive problems or behavioral

problems?

>

>

> Mostly behavioral. Peas are green, so a carotene food. Carotenes were like

poison to my son's brain until I corrected his carotene conversion issue. Rice

was similar, altho not a carotene food.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

What brand of casein free whey protein?

> > Dana,

> > You mentioned a casein free whey protein. Did you have a difficult time

getting your children to drink it?

>

>

> I mixed it into food.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Peas are a starch food. Although there are some leafy greens in the carotene

family, peas are not one of them. Carotene is responsible for the *ORANGE* color

in vegetables, not *green*.

> From Wikipedia:

Since it appears that you consider Wikipedia a credible source, here is a

Wikipedia link for lutein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutein

It mentions that lutein is one of the 600 known carotenoids. If you scroll down

the page about half-way, there is a chart of common high-lutein foods. Peas are

#3. Corn is also listed.

Carotenoids, including beta carotene and lutein, were my son's absolute worst

foods. Eating them caused severe symptoms. I had to remove all orange and

green foods, and several reds and yellows, until I corrected my son's ability to

convert carotenoids.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> And how did you manage that?

I corrected my son's carotene conversion issue with zinc, vitamin C, selenium,

tyrosine, and iodine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> What about carrots?

Carrots are an orange food and caused severe problems for my son.

> Did the allergy shows up in IgE or IgG tests?

I tested my son's issues " by observation of symptoms " . I don't know if this

problem would show up on an official test.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> What brand of casein free whey protein?

Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder is casein free, at least it was when I was using

it. It said casein free right on the outside of the bottle.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Does this need to be ordered from his website or are there stores that carry it?

I looked it up on line and it says it is GFCF.

 

D.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: whey protein

Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 9:14 AM

 

> What brand of casein free whey protein?

Jay Robb Whey Protein Powder is casein free, at least it was when I was using

it. It said casein free right on the outside of the bottle.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: whey protein

Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 9:10 AM

 

> And how did you manage that?

I corrected my son's carotene conversion issue with zinc, vitamin C, selenium,

tyrosine, and iodine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

But peas have NO *carotene*, which is what was said. Carotene and *non-carotene

carotenoids* are not* the same thing.

~Carotenes are found in yellow and orange vegetables.

Most of the *non-carotene carotenoids* are found in green leafy vegetables.~

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/carotenes.html

> > Peas are a starch food. Although there are some leafy greens in the carotene

family, peas are not one of them. Carotene is responsible for the *ORANGE* color

in vegetables, not *green*.

> > From Wikipedia:

>

>

> Since it appears that you consider Wikipedia a credible source, here is a

Wikipedia link for lutein

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutein

>

> It mentions that lutein is one of the 600 known carotenoids. If you scroll

down the page about half-way, there is a chart of common high-lutein foods.

Peas are #3. Corn is also listed.

>

> Carotenoids, including beta carotene and lutein, were my son's absolute worst

foods. Eating them caused severe symptoms. I had to remove all orange and

green foods, and several reds and yellows, until I corrected my son's ability to

convert carotenoids.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Peas contain lutein, alpha and beta-carotene. From Vitamin-basics.com

The best sources of beta-carotene are yellow/orange vegetables and fruits and

dark green leafy vegetables:

Yellow/orange vegetables – carrots, sweet potatoes, pumpkins, winter squash

Yellow/orange fruits – apricots, cantaloupes, papayas, mangoes, carambolas,

nectarines, peaches

Dark green leafy vegetables – spinach, broccoli, endive, kale, chicory,

escarole, watercress and beet leaves, turnips, mustard, dandelion

Other good vegetable and fruit sources – summer squash, asparagus, peas, sour

cherries, prune plums.

Karla

> > > Peas are a starch food. Although there are some leafy greens in the

carotene family, peas are not one of them. Carotene is responsible for the

*ORANGE* color in vegetables, not *green*.

> > > From Wikipedia:

> >

> >

> > Since it appears that you consider Wikipedia a credible source, here is a

Wikipedia link for lutein

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutein

> >

> > It mentions that lutein is one of the 600 known carotenoids. If you scroll

down the page about half-way, there is a chart of common high-lutein foods.

Peas are #3. Corn is also listed.

> >

> > Carotenoids, including beta carotene and lutein, were my son's absolute

worst foods. Eating them caused severe symptoms. I had to remove all orange

and green foods, and several reds and yellows, until I corrected my son's

ability to convert carotenoids.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Does this need to be ordered from his website or are there stores that carry

it?

I bought mine at my local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> But peas have NO *carotene*, which is what was said. Carotene and

*non-carotene carotenoids* are not* the same thing.

> ~Carotenes are found in yellow and orange vegetables.

> Most of the *non-carotene carotenoids* are found in green leafy vegetables.~

> http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/carotenes.html

Here is the pea page of my favorite food site

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2520/2

If you go to the vitamin section and click on " more details " , it will expand and

indicate all the types of vitamins that are present, including beta carotene,

alpha carotene, lutein, etc.

Scroll down your own link you provided, under alpha-carotene. You will find

peas listed.

Peas are a carotene food.

Dana

[Guest guest]

We have 2 here. Organic Marketplace doesn't have it and neither does GNC. I will

ask if they can get it for me. Thanks for all your help.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: whey protein

Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 9:22 AM

 

> Does this need to be ordered from his website or are there stores that carry

it?

I bought mine at my local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

How did you correct your son's ability to convert carotenoids?

Thanks...

>

>

> Carotenoids, including beta carotene and lutein, were my son's absolute worst

foods. Eating them caused severe symptoms. I had to remove all orange and

green foods, and several reds and yellows, until I corrected my son's ability to

convert carotenoids.

>

> Dana

>