Re: NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Did you read what is involved in the Cutler protocol in the files? I would

suggest that you first start him on EFAs and magnesium (epsom salt baths and

oral supplementation). I would try giving magnesium with taurine because he may

already be wasting it because of his stressful situation. Also, start giving a

B complex and antioxidants and build up gradually. (Vit C, Selenium, Vit E,

Zinc). Work on tolerance of all these.

I would also buy some of these well-tolerated anti-fungal supplements:

Caprylic Acid (or coconut oil)

Biotin

Oil of Oregano

Olive Leaf Extract

Candidaise

Candex

Andy suggests acidophilus for probiotics, some of us make our own (coconut

kefir, cabbage juice, cultured veggies, sauerkraut). If you buy probiotics, it

is good to get a brand with acidophilus and bifidobacterium (and no strep

strains). I have read that you should take these after meals and before bed for

the best results.

Liz

>

> Hi!

> We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own.

> I have several questions though, if anyone can?

> First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days

on & 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in

the shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw

Mom w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data

Lab & the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the

suppositories) she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we

will have to wait til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on,

(good way to chelate just not to challenge test with she says).

> SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that

route. Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD

BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back

good.

> He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that

all allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this??

> We really need help here!!!

> I have also read about celantro chelating???

> We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test

gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK???

> How much ALA for 60lb child???

> What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at

night).

> Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the

yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told

him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that

he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this

stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him

again. BUT we really do need help now...

> PLEASE!!!

> Thanks!

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Hi! Sorry we seemed to get off of my son's thread & we really need help!

Thanks so much Liz!!! I really apprciate it & will look & see if I can find that

file.

Is there anything else someone would like to add??? Our post follows.

Thank You!!

Michele

Hi!

We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own.

I have several questions though, if anyone can?

First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days on

& 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in the

shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw Mom

w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab &

the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories)

she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to wait

til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate

just not to challenge test with she says).

> SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that

route. Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD

BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back

good.

> He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that

all allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this??

> We really need help here!!!

> I have also read about celantro chelating???

> We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test

gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK???

> How much ALA for 60lb child???

> What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at

night).

> Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the

yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told

him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that

he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this

stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him

again. BUT we really do need help now...

PLEASE!!! Thanks!

Michele

[Guest guest]

First of all, a challenge test can be dangerous and the results are

inconclusive. Don't worry about collecting urine, don't complete the test.

Large quantities of chelating agents spaced too far apart can cause the metal to

redistribute, causing further damage to the brain and internal organs.

Second of all, Cilantro chelation is too eratic and can cause the same problem.

The half-life is unknown and the strength varies.

Third of all. you don't need a doctor to help your child. Many times they are

motivated by money, and not the recovery of your child.

So, the thing to do is read in the files section here about " supporting

supplements " or " recommended supplements " and get started on those. This is what

helped us:

- GFCF diet

- Fish oil

- Probiotics / Biotin / and Grapefruit Seed Extract for Yeast

Then, here it is, most important thing of all......CHELATION using the Andy

Cutler Protocol. The starting dosage of ALA for a 60 lb child is about 7.5mg

this is equal to 1/8mg per pound of body weight., every three hours, day and

night, for at least three days, take 4 days off. REPEAT. Most of us start Friday

afternoon after school and go to Monday morning before school.

Make sure you give antioxidants like Vitamin C and E. There is a whole file

about what supps to give while chelating.

You should see some results after 3-5 rounds.

TJ

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From: mltallent <mltallent@...>

Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:18:27 AM

Subject: [ ] NEED HELP PLEASE FOR SON!!!!!

Hi!

We are ready to stop with the DAN!'s & try this chelating on our own.

I have several questions though, if anyone can?

First, we just finished a 2 week " Challenge " with DMSA suppositories. 3 days on

& 11 off then 3 & first urine this am. Well son is severe & will ONLY go in the

shower. He had been holding it for 3 hrs & the only 2x he tried to pee & saw Mom

w/ the cup, he stopped & water would get in it. I finally called Dr's Data Lab &

the Dr. said this isn't a good way to get an accurate test (the suppositories)

she said only IV or oral. DAN! on vacation all week so now we will have to wait

til next week, no urine & not a good chelator to TEST on, (good way to chelate

just not to challenge test with she says).

SO we have read about ALA chelating & think we are just going to go that route.

Our son is 8.5 yrs & is about 60lbs. Completly NON VERBAL & SEVERLY BAD

BEHAVIORS, HIGH YEAST too!!! Just had CBC & liver & kidney blood work came back

good.

He has been g/c free, soy & beef free for 4 yrs & Now tests come back that all

allergies have gone away??? Anyone have any experience with this??

We really need help here!!!

I have also read about celantro chelating???

We want to get started as soon as it's safe for him after this challenge test

gets out of his system, HOW LONG SHOULD BE OK???

How much ALA for 60lb child???

What kind of suppliments does he need?? (He is ONLY on .75mg of Respierdol at

night).

Please help, time is wasting & we have been through several DAN'S through the

yrs that only take A LOT of our $ & he is NO BETTER OFF! One DAN! after I told

him what AC said about challenge testing, etc. Told me that he knew of AC & that

he was a Chemist Not an MD & isn't certified to know what kinds of effects this

stuff has on the BODY so we agreed that we weren't good for each, never saw him

again. BUT we really do need help now...

PLEASE!!!

Thanks!

Michele